stumbling, bucking below 3,000rpm

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started having problems of the car stumbling bad around 1500 to 3000 rpm. it is mostly in 1st gear. definitely no power when throttling other than normal load. just put in taylor wires, motorcraft platinum plugs, and cam or cylinder position sensor. i've read the other messages and see throttle position come up and the DIS. i did notice some clicking periodically when i was under hood running at idle. sounded more like a solenoid clicking on and off. it was intermittant. anybody recommend a good site to buy the tps or the dis?
 

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The TPS is available from AutoZone

Verify your sparkplug wire routing, there's a "gotcha" on the layout of wires # 5 & 6 on the coil pack. Taylors, eh?

Was this problem there before you started the service work?

i've read the other messages
What does this mean?

Steve
 

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I think by other messages he means other peoples post about the DIS and TPS.
 

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If you are not seeing the CHECK ENGINE light, the problem is almost certainly with the plugs or wires. Those Motorcraft plugs were the AGSP32PP gapped to .042"-.046" weren't they? Those wires, well, those wires. The Motorcraft WR-4033 are available from FordPartsNetwork.com for $83.99 and will fit both the 3.0L and 3.2L SHO engines.

<small>[ January 17, 2003, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: sdpatt ]</small>
 

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The Taylors did not come very highly recommened in the Super Coupe community either . . . seeing as though both cars theh SHO and the SC have almost identical ignition systems I could see why they might be a problem. There have been 12 second passes made with SC's running stock wires . . . I went with stocker on the Cat and plan to do the same on the SHO.
 

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projectSHO89:
The TPS is available from AutoZone

Verify your sparkplug wire routing, there's a "gotcha" on the layout of wires # 5 & 6 on the coil pack. Taylors, eh?

Was this problem there before you started the service work?

i've read the other messages
What does this mean?

Steve
I think the 5 and 6 plug problem is whats getting you. When I had my 93 sho atx rebuilt they left the 5 & 6 plugs in the sockets but completely unplugged. My brother drove it home and I drove it around the block. It was bucking and whathave you at idle and ran horrible until around 3-4k when the secondaries kick in. I drove home popped the hood and sure enough 2 of the 3 plugs on the backside of the engine were off. Put them in reset the computer and the car runs awesome, as a sho should.
 

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If the #5 & #6 wires are switched at the coil pack, the engine can start, but you would never try to hit the road with that racket and obvious problem happening under the hood. This sounds more like a spark leak.
 

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You know your problem sounds kinda familar to the long running one I had... have you changed the CRANK sensor as well and is your timing belt properly timed? Could be worth a shot
 

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Roscoe,

Are the plugs you put in a "resister" type plug?
Non-resister type plugs can induce stray electrical noise in the sensor circuits. This is commonly called "spark echo".

The low-amperage engine-control current flows can be skewed by spark echo, resulting in incorrect air fuel ratios, spark timing, and even idle air control problems. Scott, is this what you were referring to as a "spark leak"?

You can hook up an LED test light to your CID sensor, the dark green wire that is the second one down from the top in the left side connector of the DIS, and ground the LED testor to the negative battery post.

Crank the engine. If the LED flashes, the sensor is good and the wire from the sensor to the DIS is good. You can do the same test with the CPS. Look at the CPS wires diagram for the colors and the signal wire that goes to the DIS.

If the sensor signal is getting to the DIS, then the next question is, are the signals getting from the DIS to the coil pack?

You can guess and replace parts all day long, and may solve the problem, only to have the problem return a day, a week, or a month later.

Do yourself a favor and check all of your connections for any signs of corrosion or poor connection. hope this helps, rangerj
 

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