STS Turbo

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So...Ignoring fuel delievery, PCM work, tranny work and the like. Couldn't one make this setup on one's own, if you could get your hands on a turbo, a mandrel bender and some piping for a heck of a lot less than $4G's?
 

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Hint: Get a fuel cell in the trunk and you'll have all the space you'll need where the original Fuel tank was...
 

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i'm down but I need a lot of prep work, the car needs to go in for it's 3rd tranny rebuild, 1st gear really likes to die. Also, would i need any upgrades say if I only rand like 5lbs? cause if I am not mistaken we have 24lb/hr injectors..well at 100%, they are at 19lbs/hr at 80%. please correct me if I am wrong.

In terms of the bender, I have called over 50 shops all over CO trying to find one when I wanted to make a CAI, no dice. may be when I go home for Christmas, I know where there are tons in Chicago.

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Hint: Get a fuel cell in the trunk and you'll have all the space you'll need where the original Fuel tank was...

That is what I have been talking to a buddy about, but that would kinda **** trunk space, I was thinks about how probable it would be to cut the spare tire well out and put a mustang or the like in the back there under the car.
 

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Since its allready a F/I thread-Do the guys from SHOFast Performance still make the SC kit for the Gen3 like the one Carter is running on his black 97?
 

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SHOFast Performance is done, you would have to Contact Brad directly (although I would not suggest doing business with him). I doubt he has any kits left. I have one for a Duratec, but it's not finished.
 

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I would hope Doug would jump in and make some Gen 3 Supercharger kits for us, but the way it seems, owning a gen 3 requires self fabrication since we have little to no aftermarket.

A group buy could be worked out if a kit is ever made.
 

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Might as well bite the bullet and buy an FPS tranny before you do the turbo route. Probably should have done that in the first place. It seems that nobody can rebuild these trannys properly.
 

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in that case, you better have about 8 grand to blow...
Is Brad throwing in the towel? If so, maybe he would sell his remaining available s/c kits :naughty:
 

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sorry to detract from the S/C deal but back to the turbo/fuel tank....

How probable would it be to cut the spare tire well out and put a "Fuel Safe" or the like in the back there under the car.

The RACE SAFE is low cost and durable and the dimensions seem perfect for the spare tire well (15gal)
 

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I am fairly confident that the injectors are 19 pound units. I had a set of 24 pound units mounted for a very short period of time before I found the 36 pound units at Five-O motorsports. The 24 were showing signs of leaning out on the mixture gauges as I got over 8psi of boost. the stock injectors seemed to work okay until it hit 6psi. The turbo you are looking at putting in would fit where one of the mufflers is currently at then use a Camaro-style unit with dual outlets to feed the other side to keep the symmetry. The extra 2 feet of tubing will not induce that much more lag I would think and would be much easier to take then downsizing to a puny little spare tire well tank, not to metion all the plumming that will have to be made to reach the extra distance. Just my opinion though.
 

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I thought that we had 15-16 gal tanks. the tank I am looking at putting in is 15gal. the other reason that I am looking at moving the tank is if I can find some where to make headers I could do a twin turbo setup and have plenty of room. At the moment I figure I'd stick to just 1. Also, I am a little confused about the camaro style splitter that you were talking about.

I don't think that I will have to worry about upgrading the fuel system at the moment seeing as though I only plan on running 5psi.
 

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Most all of the rear mounted turbo systems I thought were capable of 5 -6 psi. Why else would you be going through the expense of getting long tube headers if you are only going 6 psi? The mufflers I was referring to have one input and two outputs with one of them being right next to the input. I thought this way you could have two pipes out the rear and the space of one of the mufflers used up by the turbo. Another consideration is how quick you will go through that fuel especially if you increase the injector size. With 36 ounders I have seen 10 mpg if I am not carefull with that long pedal on the right.
 

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I'd like to do headers that way I could do an X or H pipe setup and have the front and rear run each turbo..that is if I can run two.

all I would want to run is 5psi because I do not have the funds to get bigger injectors, machined fuel rail, chip, brakes, bigger rims for the brakes, beefed up tranny.... When I do then most likely this car will be retired from daily driving and used for fun, that or flying up the side of a mountain.
 

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what about oiling?

If we're still talking about a homemade STS-style unit, what about turbo lubrication? The STS flash demo mentions their "patented STS oiling system", but doesn't describe how it works. One might assume an electric oil pump and reservoir mounted near the turbo. Don't think you'd want to plumb a line from the engine for this...
 

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jonheese said:
If we're still talking about a homemade STS-style unit, what about turbo lubrication? The STS flash demo mentions their "patented STS oiling system", but doesn't describe how it works. One might assume an electric oil pump and reservoir mounted near the turbo. Don't think you'd want to plumb a line from the engine for this...



yes that's basically what it is. just a remote oil resevoir, electric pump, and a little radiator setup, I believe...
 

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After talking to an STS representative, I found out this:
The oil is fed to the turbo via the oil pressure regulator.
The return feed is powered by an electric salvage pump that pulls the oil from the turbo
This is all sent back into the engine by a modified oil cap.

The gentleman also told me that they sell universal kits for $2500, and come with everything but the piping. Still seems a little pricey to me but definitely better than $4K
 

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