SS Stage 1's vs SN Plus 20's Cams

[AREA 91]

Jon, you have been in my green car. Now you can't tell me that those +40's don't put a smile on your face. A cammed Yamahammer sounds nasty.


Now for a True daily driver (no secondary's) I wouldn't go with cams. I'd do a 3.2 swap with 3.0 cams. Torque for the win!

Now if you are building a "toy" cam it up!

 

[Phoenix]

Jon, you have been in my green car. Now you can't tell me that those +40's don't put a smile on your face. A cammed Yamahammer sounds nasty.


Now for a True daily driver (no secondary's) I wouldn't go with cams. I'd do a 3.2 swap wityh 3.0 cams. Torque for the win!

Now if you are building a "toy" cam it up!

Quoted for truth.

 

[illSHOyou]

I want a Nasty Cam

 

[AREA 91]

I want a Nasty Cam

Actually you need four of them.

 

[GR8WYT]

I have the +20's, and there are quite a number of posts in the 2004 timeframe about the results that I gained from just the cams.

As stated, you don't lose torque it just moves up the rev range. Without intake mods my car pulled 216whp with +20's. True, the car lacks the tug of low rpm torque, but it pulls like **** all the way to the rev limiter. Fantastic!

If you want big power, go forced induction. If you want a thrilling high rpm wail, go for the cams. I'm all about the motor...

 

[yamahaSHO]

If you want big power, go forced induction. If you want a thrilling high rpm wail, go for the cams. I'm all about the motor...

You can have both

 

[GR8WYT]

Oh, and there are zero quality issues with the cams that Shonut sources. I've been to the shop where they are made.

 

[Phoenix]

Oh, and there are zero quality issues with the cams that Shonut sources. I've been to the shop where they are made.

Yup made in BC , you know Canadians makes all the great stuff :swing:

 

[GeneSHO]

Yup made in BC , you know Canadians makes all the great stuff :swing:

 

[yamahaSHO]

Blame Canada!

 

[zblackbeast]

"What.... Canada sucks"

 

[SuperHO]

silly canadians and their fake money...anyway, i've experienced both +20s and a 3.2 swap, and i'll have to agree with hairball up there with the engine swap being more streetable. i rather enjoy being able to pass at speeds about 60mph without having to downshift out of fifth. my next mod will be a pretty purple bottle plumbed from my trunk to my engine bay...that'll have to suffice for me until my turbo build on the V8's finished...at which point i'll join the ranks of turbo'd gen IIs. and when i boost mine, i'll be sticking with stock 3.0 cams.

 

[Sho Amo]

or a 3,2 mtx with +40s.


ahhh im so tempted to get a set.

 

[Sho Amo]

also wanted to know if you need a tweecer or any tuning for them

 

[yamahaSHO]

You dont need a TwEECer for them, but you certainly can do some tuning with them.

 

[jon93]

mmmmmmmm cams! You will need to at the very minimal raise your idle to around 1100rpm with cams.

 

[GR8WYT]

mmmmmmmm cams! You will need to at the very minimal raise your idle to around 1100rpm with cams.

My car idles quite happily at ~900rpm. Even got some props from the Alpha guys last summer at the 2008 Convention track day. "Sounds mean!" :woo-hoo:

 

[yamahaSHO]

Mine did fine at 900 as well with stage 1 cams and a stock flywheel. I only raised it to 1144 to quiet down the blower at idle.

With stage 2 cams and a light flywheel, it will idle just fine, but dies when you let the revs down too quickly. That can be fixed with tuning though

 

[Sho Amo]

okay kool.

if i needed to couldnt i just turn the idle screw on the tb?

 

[yamahaSHO]

Nope. Computer controlled cars will ALWAYS... REPEAT, ALWAYS try to run what they are programmed to do. It WILL learn itself back until you go so far out of whack that the car will run like crap.