SHOCKS

[Big Mike 74]

I had to replace the rears as one blew so it was an emergent issue on my 97 in doing so I disconnected the ride controller and put regular shocks in the rear......the fronts are starting to make noise now but the are still "sarc" and hooked up to the unit, should I even bother looking around for the sarc or just get Gabriel's and disconnect the front too .....if not where can I find these sarc shocks

 

[stephen newberg]

I might still have a spare set about, if you want me to look, but to the best of my knowledge there are no more of them available new in any of the Ford pipelines.

pax, smn

 

[Big Mike 74]

I might still have a spare set about, if you want me to look, but to the best of my knowledge there are no more of them available new in any of the Ford pipelines.

pax, smn

Yea I mean I was going to get the ready mounts and just have the system be disconnected because the car is my daily driver I don't race around with it really I have my 2011 for that lol but I wasn't sure if it was going to make a huge difference on the handling or not

 

[stephen newberg]

Yes, there will be a significant difference in the handling by going to standard Taurus struts, as that is what the various third party manufacturers provide. Or so many have reported that have gone that route. Do you want me to dig around and see if I still have that extra set of fronts? I got rid of a lot of spare parts when I shifted the car from a daily driver over to a summer Sunday and shows car, and I do not actually remember if I still have spares.

pax, smn

 

[Big Mike 74]

Yes, there will be a significant difference in the handling by going to standard Taurus struts, as that is what the various third party manufacturers provide. Or so many have reported that have gone that route. Do you want me to dig around and see if I still have that extra set of fronts? I got rid of a lot of spare parts when I shifted the car from a daily driver over to a summer Sunday and shows car, and I do not actually remember if I still have spares.

pax, smn

Yea if u can look around see if you still have them, with my rears disconnected tho I'm wondering if it still works up front? Or if disconnecting the rear stopped the operability of them

 

[stephen newberg]

IIRC they SARC system works each strut individually, so the fronts are still working even though the rears are not connected. I will take a look on my remaining parts shelves later today and get back to you.

pax, smn

 

[stephen newberg]

OK, I do still have the spare front struts. They are set up as quick struts for installation, that is they are already assembled with the correct SHO springs and the bearings and such, so they are basically straight bolt in. However, they are big and heavy, so you would be looking at a hefty shipping fee, I suspect. If you want them, let me know by email so we can take this off the board. I am at [email protected]

pax, smn

 

[98SF19]

Stephen, I may be interested in those front assemblies if you still have them. I'm about to post a new thread which will explain further. I just wanted to tag this one since you mention them here.

 

[stephen newberg]

Yup, still got them. They are fully set up as quick struts, with the springs, bearings and such. So fast to install, but significant shipping costs, I suspect.

pax, smn

 

[98SF19]

They are the OEM Sachs struts though correct, with SARC plugs? I'm going to price 2001 taurus struts locally, and assuming I get info on the Eibach springs, I'll be able to compare prices. I'll PM you my zip if you want to figure shipping.

 

[stephen newberg]

No, they are Ford OEM SARC struts and springs.

I have Eibach springs on mine now, and have had them on for a lot of miles, and they have been fine with zero problems, so I am not sure why the fellow you talked to said to avoid them.

Anyway, I will weigh one of them, double it, and run it through the software Canada Post has on line to check on what the shipping will be, but off hand I am guessing we are looking at $150 just to get them to you, if not more.

pax, smn

 

[98SF19]

I'm guessing Eibach makes more than one spring? Can you give me info on what you currently have? Do you have them on the OEM struts? Also, I had thought Sachs made the original struts for the Gen 3, but I did see Motorcraft on the shaft the other day when I had a tire off.

 

[stephen newberg]

I suspect that Eibach does make more than one spring, though I do not really remember anything past getting those with the slightly stiffer spring rate than the OEM Ford springs. Most of my efforts with the suspension over the years have been to take out flex and make the overall structure of the car stiffer.

Yes, I do have them on OEM Ford SARC struts on the car itself now. The struts hold up extremely well long term, apparently, as I still toss the car about pretty hard when using it on sunny Sundays and there are a ton of miles on the struts these days. Decline would show up pretty easily since I am driving the 911 C4S as my daily car and can feel the comparison every time I use the two of them in the same day.

Both sets of the SARC struts I have had have also said Motorcraft on them. That does not mean that Sachs did not make them for Ford, though. You would need to talk to someone more expert in the history there than I am to figure that one out.

pax, smn

 

[98SF19]

While doing a search for "rear shocks" I came across this post from a year and a half ago, and after reading through and checking my *** in this timeframe, it occurred to me that I never heard back from Mr. Newberg on shipping. I'm guessing you sold the SARC strut assemblies to another user? It's all good now as I currently have front Koni's and OEM lowering springs (still not yet installed) . . .

However, I've had difficulty in determining the correct KYB model for Gen 3 rears. Below are 2 links to the same part, Excel-G 344432. One says they fit the car, the other says no. I don't have a way to cross reference to the Motorcrafts (over $300 each for left and right rears!!) so I can only go by what one site says and get confirmation on fitment from another. Also, the Amazon link says they're for the Focus. WTH?!?

https://www.amazon.com/KYB-344432-Excel-G-Replacement-Shock/dp/B000EQCHEC
http://www.new-part.com/product/for..._term=192037&gclid=CPz4gP_yi9ECFVU7gQodSccKCg

Can someone tell me which is correct or perhaps another make/model for rear shocks that works (just shocks, not assemblies)?

 

[stephen newberg]

Hmm. Interesting. I sort of remember weighing the package and looking it up at Canada Post for a cost and emailing you the results. It was high, though I do not remember the exact number. Oh well. Anyway, a set of in effect quick struts for the front are still sitting here as spares. Glad you got something that worked otherwise.

pax, smn

 

[98SF19]

Ya know, you may very well have e-mailed the number - the e-mail address I use for this account is one I don't check often, so I probably deleted it with a mass of other shoforum e-mails, thinking that I'd already gotten it through site *** . . .

For the sake of others seeking front suspension options, by "quick struts" you mean full oem SARC strut assemblies right? Won't be long now till you can *donate* them to a SHO museum. It'd be one **** of a write-off! I understand that said museum would have to come into existence first.

 

[stephen newberg]

Ya, a 'quick strut' is one already assembled with the mounts and spring so its all just a bolt the old out, bolt the new in. handy.

I had not thought of a 'donation'.

pax, smn

 

[gamefanatic]

I could be wrong, but I believe the part "344432" is for the wagon, not the sedan / SHO. But I have not looked at mine recently. I believe the setup is the same as my GL, and should use the KYB "334169". I used Monroe for the GL.
Rock Auto shows a similar part for the rear from Gabriel and others.
They also have a SARC model for the fronts.

 

[98SF19]

Looks like that 334169 might be my only option, as it is for a Gen 3 SLO. I only see the Gabriel and Sachs items under struts or assemblies on Rock Auto. I'm just looking for the shock absorber. I'll lose rear SARC operation but will save $125 per side. Really no point in having rear SARC running if the fronts don't either.

 

[LOUDSHO92]

We do carry them: http://www.shosource.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_3_32&products_id=78