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3rd freaking time in the same damn year!!!!
And worse, this time it was a cop car that did it, and she hit me so hard I smashed into the car in front of me, luckily my push bumper took most of the damage and saved my engine

Can anyone help me design some sort of impact bar for the back of my car!?!? I am really tired of people thinking my trunk is for target practice
 

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My daughter's experience with having her car hit by a cop was that they pay out pretty well, hope it turns out well for you also.
 

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3rd freaking time in the same damn year!!!!
And worse, this time it was a cop car that did it, and she hit me so hard I smashed into the car in front of me, luckily my push bumper took most of the damage and saved my engine

Can anyone help me design some sort of impact bar for the back of my car!?!? I am really tired of people thinking my trunk is for target practice
Get a federal seat belt law about texting and driving, it won't get rid of the problem but I have seen cops texting while driving as well unfortunately. It would be more effective, you could do the trailer hitch to total the car behind you.

Sorry I feel your pain, been in a few rear enders, always someone doing something silly, texting, on the phone, or anticipating my next move.
 
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3rd freaking time in the same damn year!!!!
And worse, this time it was a cop car that did it, and she hit me so hard I smashed into the car in front of me, luckily my push bumper took most of the damage and saved my engine

Can anyone help me design some sort of impact bar for the back of my car!?!? I am really tired of people thinking my trunk is for target practice
Sir the junkyard man is here for you, first off, I know your pain and I am sorry to hear that, I was rear ended by an off duty cop 10 years ago, no attempt at braking, I was at a dead stop she was doing 40, totaled my car, I got a whopping 12k plus medical and car replacement, she got a promotion to detective.

as for your rear bumper guard, can I see a picture of your car? to get an idea of the style youre after. my first thought is if you have the setina push bar (or similar) then you are not apposed to an external tubular guard which they did or do make for the taurus. I've seen them on "Cops" during pursuits but a quick internet search brought me nothing. however, the crown vic does have some options, if function over form is your goal then you can get away with a simple oval tubular bumper guard that seems pretty universal. if you want something more "Mad Max" and form fitting then I have a vision I can try to relay but i dont think it can be found on go-rhino. all depends on what you can live with.

The crown vic one wraps or is just basic and flat, the dimensions should be similar to the taurus but how it would look would be hard to say but I made a quick rendering
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literally just used paint to edit this so might have to squint to see the potential, obviously the mounting bars are an issue but with real dimensions and real products that can be remedied, still a question of what you want for a look.
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My "vision" is more mad max and less refined as a rendering but its an idea
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or with more cross bars
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yes the renderings look like a bored 7 year old did them but thats my idea for full rear coverage. itll probably set off the parking sensors so maybe an additional plate to mount them in to the guard itself and itll probably weigh an additional 150-200lbs and with that weight the bumper cover will probably have to be cut to add upper supports to keep it from shaking and from crushing the rear of the car during an impact BUT whoever hits you will definitely be in worse shape. I'd tie the bottom together at the exhaust mounting points (I think thats where the hitch goes if its added and is as structured as it gets for a unibody car) and then notch under where the bumper meets the tail lights and rear quarter panel to tie in a total of 4 smaller mounting straps. that should control shaking and increase rigidity. the bars would contour the rear of the car in angles rather than sweeps and be spaced off 1-2 inches. I am not an engineer, I dont know physics, but I know overkill and if executed with the right steel and right mounting this thing could take a hit.
 

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Sir the junkyard man is here for you, first off, I know your pain and I am sorry to hear that, I was rear ended by an off duty cop 10 years ago, no attempt at braking, I was at a dead stop she was doing 40, totaled my car, I got a whopping 12k plus medical and car replacement, she got a promotion to detective.

as for your rear bumper guard, can I see a picture of your car? to get an idea of the style youre after. my first thought is if you have the setina push bar (or similar) then you are not apposed to an external tubular guard which they did or do make for the taurus. I've seen them on "Cops" during pursuits but a quick internet search brought me nothing. however, the crown vic does have some options, if function over form is your goal then you can get away with a simple oval tubular bumper guard that seems pretty universal. if you want something more "Mad Max" and form fitting then I have a vision I can try to relay but i dont think it can be found on go-rhino. all depends on what you can live with.

The crown vic one wraps or is just basic and flat, the dimensions should be similar to the taurus but how it would look would be hard to say but I made a quick rendering
View attachment 89895View attachment 89896
literally just used paint to edit this so might have to squint to see the potential, obviously the mounting bars are an issue but with real dimensions and real products that can be remedied, still a question of what you want for a look.
View attachment 89897

My "vision" is more mad max and less refined as a rendering but its an idea
View attachment 89898
or with more cross bars
View attachment 89899

yes the renderings look like a bored 7 year old did them but thats my idea for full rear coverage. itll probably set off the parking sensors so maybe an additional plate to mount them in to the guard itself and itll probably weigh an additional 150-200lbs and with that weight the bumper cover will probably have to be cut to add upper supports to keep it from shaking and from crushing the rear of the car during an impact BUT whoever hits you will definitely be in worse shape. I'd tie the bottom together at the exhaust mounting points (I think thats where the hitch goes if its added and is as structured as it gets for a unibody car) and then notch under where the bumper meets the tail lights and rear quarter panel to tie in a total of 4 smaller mounting straps. that should control shaking and increase rigidity. the bars would contour the rear of the car in angles rather than sweeps and be spaced off 1-2 inches. I am not an engineer, I dont know physics, but I know overkill and if executed with the right steel and right mounting this thing could take a hit.
you are a green gem @Junkyard_Mad-Scientist - see what I did there?
 

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3rd time!!!! Holy curse.

I love the stock look. If I was going to do anything I would consider more of a solid bumper build to fab and hide under the bumper cover.
Yeah, you're still going to need a bumper cover if you get hit but your fenders and deck lid may survive.
Either way, sounds like you need additional support to save you from other fools on the road.

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3rd freaking time in the same damn year!!!!
And worse, this time it was a cop car that did it, and she hit me so hard I smashed into the car in front of me, luckily my push bumper took most of the damage and saved my engine

Can anyone help me design some sort of impact bar for the back of my car!?!? I am really tired of people thinking my trunk is for target practice
I just wanted to mention having worked with the engineers that make potentially lethal impacts survivable the destruction your car suffers is destruction that you could be suffering had the car not been designed to crush. So go ahead and build your super tough bumpers front and rear. You might just regret it.
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I just wanted to mention having worked with the engineers that make potentially lethal impacts survivable the destruction your car suffers is destruction that you could be suffering had the car not been designed to crush. So go ahead and build your super tough bumpers front and rear. You might just regret it.
Signed, Impact Test Engineer
That is a good point, anything the car doesn't take your body will, anything more than a light tap could earn you some neck problems at the least, definitely something to consider.
 

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I just wanted to mention having worked with the engineers that make potentially lethal impacts survivable the destruction your car suffers is destruction that you could be suffering had the car not been designed to crush. So go ahead and build your super tough bumpers front and rear. You might just regret it.
Signed, Impact Test Engineer
I enjoy the wealth of knowledge this forum has - ha!
 

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I just wanted to mention having worked with the engineers that make potentially lethal impacts survivable the destruction your car suffers is destruction that you could be suffering had the car not been designed to crush. So go ahead and build your super tough bumpers front and rear. You might just regret it.
Signed, Impact Test Engineer
You are definitely right, but I don't necessarily want some super stiff bars, I was actually thinking something with springs to absorb some impact, or other fold points so the cover takes the damage and not the car, just like how my front push guard took most of the damage
 

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3rd freaking time in the same damn year!!!!
And worse, this time it was a cop car that did it, and she hit me so hard I smashed into the car in front of me, luckily my push bumper took most of the damage and saved my engine

Can anyone help me design some sort of impact bar for the back of my car!?!? I am really tired of people thinking my trunk is for target practice
Won't help with the outside damage but may prevent the car from being totaled or you injured. The FPIS cross member.

Ford (DB5Z-7810780-A)​

 

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Sir the junkyard man is here for you, first off, I know your pain and I am sorry to hear that, I was rear ended by an off duty cop 10 years ago, no attempt at braking, I was at a dead stop she was doing 40, totaled my car, I got a whopping 12k plus medical and car replacement, she got a promotion to detective.

as for your rear bumper guard, can I see a picture of your car? to get an idea of the style youre after. my first thought is if you have the setina push bar (or similar) then you are not apposed to an external tubular guard which they did or do make for the taurus. I've seen them on "Cops" during pursuits but a quick internet search brought me nothing. however, the crown vic does have some options, if function over form is your goal then you can get away with a simple oval tubular bumper guard that seems pretty universal. if you want something more "Mad Max" and form fitting then I have a vision I can try to relay but i dont think it can be found on go-rhino. all depends on what you can live with.

The crown vic one wraps or is just basic and flat, the dimensions should be similar to the taurus but how it would look would be hard to say but I made a quick rendering
View attachment 89895View attachment 89896
literally just used paint to edit this so might have to squint to see the potential, obviously the mounting bars are an issue but with real dimensions and real products that can be remedied, still a question of what you want for a look.
View attachment 89897

My "vision" is more mad max and less refined as a rendering but its an idea
View attachment 89898
or with more cross bars
View attachment 89899

yes the renderings look like a bored 7 year old did them but thats my idea for full rear coverage. itll probably set off the parking sensors so maybe an additional plate to mount them in to the guard itself and itll probably weigh an additional 150-200lbs and with that weight the bumper cover will probably have to be cut to add upper supports to keep it from shaking and from crushing the rear of the car during an impact BUT whoever hits you will definitely be in worse shape. I'd tie the bottom together at the exhaust mounting points (I think thats where the hitch goes if its added and is as structured as it gets for a unibody car) and then notch under where the bumper meets the tail lights and rear quarter panel to tie in a total of 4 smaller mounting straps. that should control shaking and increase rigidity. the bars would contour the rear of the car in angles rather than sweeps and be spaced off 1-2 inches. I am not an engineer, I dont know physics, but I know overkill and if executed with the right steel and right mounting this thing could take a hit.
That second photo looks nice, the third looks a little over ****

As for mounting points, it'd probably be smart to have a couple mounting points going straight to the impact bar which would require some cutting of course, but would be worth it
 

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Won't help with the outside damage but may prevent the car from being totaled or you injured. The FPIS cross member.

Ford (DB5Z-7810780-A)​

Is this the cross member that sits under the back seats?
 

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Yes and the seat will not fit without trimming the foam. It protects the gas tank from getting crushed.
Ive seen those, almost grabbed that when i went to the junk yard a couple times
But that reinforcement actually goes REALLY far, that back brace attaches to some side braces that go what seem like the whole length of the interior
 

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