mjhpadi
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I do know they are illegal in Virginia, but not here in Pennsylvania.
Radar Detectors and BLIS
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Im going to have to side with the v1 over the ******. Once you have the arrows you cannot live without them. Gps, or other useless functions does not make up for the lack of it. Mine has picked up ka band for 3+ miles at night. During the day in heavy traffic I can pick it up 1+ miles easily. Even if the ****** or any other one has better range, why would you need it? Theres no stopping laser. You might get lucky and pick up a reflection from another driver, but by that time you are probably shot yourself. You can try a jammer, but they are expensive and not very reliable. How would a cop feel if he shoots you and his gun malfunctions? Chances are you will still get pulled over and be written a ticket. It's not hard for him to say what his laser gun says. Im sure ****** make fine detectors (owned the x50 a few years back), but nothing beats a v1.
http://www.radartest.com/article_2.asp?articleid=100578
"The Valentine does have the advantage of having dual antennas, allowing its directional arrows identify the direction that the radar is coming from. However, Radar Roy and other reviewers have all agreed, that the filtering on the Valentine 1 is inferior. So much so that in the November 2004 issue of Autoweek magazine's review, they called the Valentine 1 the "Chicken Little of radar detectors".
"****** and Beltronics have a single antenna that is bi-directional. This allows you to receive radar from front and rear, at distances equal to or exceeding that of Valentine. ****** and Bel also have the best filtering on the market today."
NotSoSlowSHO
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greengiant
New Member
I think that to really understand how radar detectors work you need to send some time in a cruiser using radar, most people don't have the slightest clue work it functions. the majority of cruisers have radar units front and back. the gun and mounted units generally don't have that much of a range, the max on the one's I've used is about 1000-1500ft (radar comes out as a cone and gets bigger and less accurate as it goes out) Cops don't press the button everytime they see a car, its pretty easy to tell if someone is hauling it and is worth checking. The biggest way to get around detectors is to sit at night (or during the day if you have a really good hiding place), a ways off the road, with the cruiser pointed with the flow of traffic with the lights off and tapping the mounted radar well after a car has pasted you, by then its way too late. And nothing gaurentees a speeding ticket more than detectors, no seatbelts or children in the car. The area I'm in during the night shift we can go 10-15mins without seeing a car (not touching the radar) so if your the first person through doing 20 over, you're screwed, not to mention that when it gets slow at night the threshold drops from 15 over to 10 over for stops....
figured I'd throw some cons in with all these pros
figured I'd throw some cons in with all these pros
freqz
New Member
Wait...the threshold is 15? Can you get a copy of that memo to TX Highway Patrol please?
I agree on the Valentine 1. Got two & they are really reliable. I like the arrows that point where the radar source is.
As I stated before. I picked up cops 3+ miles away. Why would I need more range than that? A cop isnt going to be able to get my speed until he has a clear line of sight with my car. By that time I have already picked him up for miles unless he has had his gun off. Chances are he hasn't since i'm not in a rural area.
I think that to really understand how radar detectors work you need to send some time in a cruiser using radar, most people don't have the slightest clue work it functions. the majority of cruisers have radar units front and back. the gun and mounted units generally don't have that much of a range, the max on the one's I've used is about 1000-1500ft (radar comes out as a cone and gets bigger and less accurate as it goes out) Cops don't press the button everytime they see a car, its pretty easy to tell if someone is hauling it and is worth checking. The biggest way to get around detectors is to sit at night (or during the day if you have a really good hiding place), a ways off the road, with the cruiser pointed with the flow of traffic with the lights off and tapping the mounted radar well after a car has pasted you, by then its way too late. And nothing gaurentees a speeding ticket more than detectors, no seatbelts or children in the car. The area I'm in during the night shift we can go 10-15mins without seeing a car (not touching the radar) so if your the first person through doing 20 over, you're screwed, not to mention that when it gets slow at night the threshold drops from 15 over to 10 over for stops....
figured I'd throw some cons in with all these pros
I've been pulled over several times with a radar detector and they have never seen it. I mount it on the top of the windshield behind the dark area so you cant see the section cups or the detector itself. Thankfully in my area I don't travel very much in the rural parts, but I have been caught off guard with laser and instant on before. I just learn the cities that use laser and their favorite hiding spots.
The V1 vs ****** 8500/9500 battle is a religious argument...They're both good, you won't go wrong with either. The ****** falses less, the V1 shows you directions. I've owned both over the years and currently both my SHO and my Lightning have 9500ix's in them. I wanted the red light/trap database as well as the ability to lock-out false signals via GPS. (there's a few I hit on some routes)..I also like I can link the Shifter anti-laser to my ******.
If you are in Virginia, you have fewer options, only the Bell and the ****** Redline are still "undetectable" at the moment.
If you are in Virginia, you have fewer options, only the Bell and the ****** Redline are still "undetectable" at the moment.
thereisnospoon
Gen4SHO
I've got the 9500ci in my 2010 and I haven't had any issues with the BLIS. I do, however, think I have an issue with the driver side sensor though but that started way before the detector install.
Yeah, I've got the same driver's side BLIS issue. Says BLIND SPOT NOT AVAILABLE about 3 times a week, then clears itself after 15-20 minutes. Gotta go in for a check. But, it did that before the detector was installed as well.
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You do realize that that site sells Bell and ****** detectors right?
That is true, but can you post some evidence that shows their testing was falsified?
Sensitivity is only part of the issue. Filtering out false signals so you don't detect every supermarket you pass is a valuable feature. And what good is knowing which direction the radar is coming from anyhow? Also, having a detector that alerts to red light cameras and can mark known speed traps is a whole other layer of protection. Once you've used a detector that NEVER alerts without a real threat you can really appreciate the difference.
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SHOtime2511
CGP
My V1 falses on K band regularly in town,X band I turned off as it is not used in Florida.
Even after programming it I got the the point I just shut it off as I don't speed in town anyway.
On the highway its worth its weight in gold.
I firmly believe the 9500 is a worlds better detector,V1 has rested on there name for too long and are being left in the dust.
Even after programming it I got the the point I just shut it off as I don't speed in town anyway.
On the highway its worth its weight in gold.
I firmly believe the 9500 is a worlds better detector,V1 has rested on there name for too long and are being left in the dust.
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False alerts are only x and k band. I have never seen a cop use x band, and only once use k band and that was in Ohio. I could turn k and x off and be fine, but I don't pick up very many false signals anyway so it doesn't bother me.
If a company sells two brands of radar, but not another, then chances are they will bad mouth the brand they don't carry to help increase sales. The other brands might have more features or even better range, but none have arrows and it makes all the difference. Arrows tell me where the cop is so I know if I have to slow down or not. For example. If i'm driving down the freeway and I get a ka chirp on the lowest setting in front of me then I will slow down. If it's behind me then I wont bother, because that cop could be miles back. With the other detectors you have no idea where its coming from so you are forced to slow down as a precaution. Imo that is worth far more than any other features the other guys have. All will do a great job, so look over the features and pick one. I pick the v1 for the arrows. If I wanted gps, or if we had red light cameras here then I might add another one to get those features. I will not give up my v1 though.
thereisnospoon
Gen4SHO
First off, I'm glad to finally be considered a member! I posted many times and required "mod approval" - I'll be coming here more often now!
HOWEVER..................this week I got my FIRST run of Driver Side BLIS "Blind Spot Not Available" messages. Shaker, did you ever take yours in to find out what they said?
I love this ****** Passport 9500. The thing has learned so much that, when the damn thing goes off, I KNOW it's cop radar. The other day X band went off (which is RARE here in Ft Worth) - - - I thought twice before slowing down, but over the next hill was a good ol' Fort Worth cop just waiting for someone to fill the donation bin.
I've got nothing bad to say about the Valentine. I owned it in my Fusion. But this ****** 9500 is pretty hard to beat.
HOWEVER..................this week I got my FIRST run of Driver Side BLIS "Blind Spot Not Available" messages. Shaker, did you ever take yours in to find out what they said?
I love this ****** Passport 9500. The thing has learned so much that, when the damn thing goes off, I KNOW it's cop radar. The other day X band went off (which is RARE here in Ft Worth) - - - I thought twice before slowing down, but over the next hill was a good ol' Fort Worth cop just waiting for someone to fill the donation bin.
I've got nothing bad to say about the Valentine. I owned it in my Fusion. But this ****** 9500 is pretty hard to beat.
SHO U UP
SHO Guru
There are a couple other brands that "turn off" when the officer's detector detects a detector-detector. What a mouthful. Anyway, it "cloaks" itself until it is out of range. Can't think off the top of my head the brands......that I have. :theyareontome:
mjhpadi
New Member
Wow, I'm really impressed with how much better the detector technology is today then it was even 10-12 years ago!
gipraw
Pro Detailer
I have a V1 and two 9500ix's .. Both of the escorts are installed in vehicles, and the V1 sits in a drawer the vast majority of time. I prefer the ******, but the V1 is still an awesome unit.
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