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Not to be redundant, but if I may once again borrow from the factory EEC-IV strategy documentation, I'd like to supplement Mike's earlier post and clear up any remaining Q's with the following section outlining Ford's general converter clutch control strategy:

CONVERTER CLUTCH CONTROL

OVERVIEW


The converter clutch is an electronically controlled wet clutch which essentially bypasses the torque converter when actuated. This eliminates torque converter slippage and excess heat generation leading to fuel economy and vehicle performance benefits. The converter clutch is also used during transmission gear changes to minimize the customer perceived engine RPM change during upshifts and downshifts.

The converter clutch strategy is broken down into four basic parts:

1) Unconditional Unlock Logic - The converter clutch is unconditionally released under a number of conditions such as closed throttle, brake applied, high tip-in or tip-out rates, etc. A timer is then loaded to allow re-application of the converter clutch after the condition is no longer true. All times are independent such that the longest converter clutch release time for multiple release conditions controls re-application of the clutch.

2) Shift Unlock Logic - Shift unlock logic is used to control the converter clutch during upshifts and downshifts. For power-on upshifts, speed ratio is monitored after the gear change begins and is used to release the converter clutch. In this way, the drop in RPM caused by the ratio change is offset by an RPM rise due to the release of the converter clutch. After the converter clutch is released, speed ratio is monitored again to reapply the converter clutch. The end result is that the RPM change during the shift has been minimized and converter clutch control has been imperceptible to the driver. If speed ratio conditions are not met, a default timer controls the converter clutch. The speed ratio check, due to the accuracy required for proper control, is done during the 1 msec interrupt. Power-off upshifts and all downshifts are controlled by the default timer due to the lower required timing accuracy. Downshifts are all performed on an open converter to aid shift quality.

3) Scheduled Lock/Unlock Logic - When there are no unconditional releases in effect and the converter clutch is not being controlled during shifts, converter clutch application and releases are scheduled as a function of throttle position versus vehicle speed for each gear. An identical set of fox functions exists for altitude as well (BP_INTR is the interpolation factor). Vehicle speeds are modified by the learned N (engine speed) over V (vehicle speed) of the vehicle. Some additional features exist for scheduled converter clutch applies.

a) Speed ratio must be greater than a minimum value. This prevents application of the converter clutch while significant torque multiplications are taking place.

b) Throttle rate must be less than some maximum rate. This prevents application of the converter clutch when driver business would continually release and apply the converter clutch.

c) Intermediate altitude scheduled apply delay. This delays re-application of the converter clutch when driving in mountainous terrain to prevent business due to constantly changing throttle position associated with driving up and down hills.

d) W.O.T. Lockup Logic - WOT lockup logic is used to apply the converter clutch when at Wide Open Throttle to realize a performance and efficiency benefit. The speed ratio criteria becomes increasingly more difficult so as to prevent cycling of the clutch.

4) FMEM Lock-up Logic - If a transmission sensor critical to the Converter Clutch Control Logic fails, lock-ups will be based on information from the available sensors.

a) If the TP Sensor fails, locks are based on SPD_RATIO (speed ratio across the torque converter). If both the TP Sensor and the Vehicle Speed Sensor fail, locks are based on engine RPM.

b) If the Vehicle Speed Sensor fails, locks are based on a function of NEBART (filtered engine RPM) and TP_REL (relative TP).
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So at the track, I am either accelerating or braking really hard, which suggests that TC never locks up and is slipping all the time, thus generating heat?
 

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SuperG said:
So at the track, I am either accelerating or braking really hard, which suggests that TC never locks up and is slipping all the time, thus generating heat?
I'd be willing to bet that you rarely (if ever) see any converter lock while on the track, Gary.

Of course, a wee change in programming could fix you right up ... :biggrin:
 

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It's getting pretty cold in MI, usually around 40 degree's when i leave from work in the morning. I have a 30 minute commute home and my TC doesnt usually start locking up till probably the last 5 minutes of my drive. Cold weather = a lot longer for fluids to reach an optimal temp.

And my gas mileage is reflecting this too :(

At 70 i'm at about 2500RPM with the TC locked up. I usually can tell when it's locked cause if i just press the gas a little bit more, the RPM's don't change much but i'll accelerate. With it unlocked, i can feather the gas and have the tach climb...400-500 rpms maybe without inducing a downshift, and seeing a minimal increase in acceleration. Very noticable on the freeway when the car's still pretty cold.
 

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shoteen95 said:
It's getting pretty cold in MI, usually around 40 degree's when i leave from work in the morning. I have a 30 minute commute home and my TC doesnt usually start locking up till probably the last 5 minutes of my drive. Cold weather = a lot longer for fluids to reach an optimal temp.

And my gas mileage is reflecting this too :(

At 70 i'm at about 2500RPM with the TC locked up. I usually can tell when it's locked cause if i just press the gas a little bit more, the RPM's don't change much but i'll accelerate. With it unlocked, i can feather the gas and have the tach climb...400-500 rpms maybe without inducing a downshift, and seeing a minimal increase in acceleration. Very noticable on the freeway when the car's still pretty cold.

Chances are you could shut your car off after 15 minutes, and quickly restart ( as if it stalled. ) and your TC would lock. I have never tried this, but seen it posted several times. I guess on start up, if the fluid is dead cold it takes to a higher temp before it starts to allow lock up. If you restart once things are warm already, it may lock for you sooner.

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Being that is was in the low 50's on the way to work yesterday, I'm not sure if the car warmed up totally...but I did hit 90, and I was at 3100rpms.
 

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The easiest way to confirm converter lock on your own vehicle is to perform one of the two following steps while travelling down an uncrowded highway in third or fourth gear:

a) Take your foot off the gas for at least 2-3 seconds and allow the car to briefly coast (this will force the converter to unlock if it was previously locked up). Then, while monitoring your engine speed via the tach, slowly re-apply the throttle (as if you giving it just a little bit of gas to accelerate up an incline) and stop when you've reached at least 1/8 pedal travel. If the fluids are warm enough for the EEC to command converter lock, it should do so within 2 seconds of throttle application (remember the default timer(s) I quoted from the factory strategy documents earlier?) and you will see a drop in engine speed (anywhere from 100-300 RPMs) as a result.

b) While monitoring your engine speed via the tach and with your right foot on the throttle (lightly applied), take your left foot and quickly tap the brake pedal just enough to trip the BOO switch (this will inform the EEC that the brake pedal has been applied and will command converter unlock as a result). If your converter was locked while the throttle was applied, you should see a subsequent rise in engine speed (usually several hundred RPMs) after tapping the brake pedal.

Disclaimer - always obey all local traffic laws when performing aforementioned tests. :)
 

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Mine has been like this even when it was 100 degrees outside. Should it be dropping codes if it isn't locking? I can never get the KOER test to work, would the codes be in there?
 
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