please help

[bigLSHO]

please help with 60K problem

well i did the upper 60k minus changing the rear valve cover gasket and plug well seals because i was having trouble removing the rear cover. i didnt do a valve job either so basically all i did was change the plugs and wires. now heres the problem. it starts but wont stay on at idle. also there is a screaming noise coming from the top of the engine. which i think MIGHT be caused because i didnt have replacement intake gaskets which i was plannin on gettin when i got home. now the big problem...i look under the car after trying to run it for a min and i see a pile starting to form...looks to me like oil but almost in a brown sludge form. but it was near my passenger side wheel and in the back of the engine...which totally baffles me because like i said i didnt really touch the rear valve cover. some one please help me out in anyway you can...of course im about to start takin it apart again. but besides the screaming noise it not staying on at idle and the pile of god knows what under my car :vomit: it would rev easily and seemed like besides those major problems it would be a little better off than it was before

 

[bigLSHO]

just so i can rule other serious and would-be depressing problems out. what are the symptoms of a cracked block. excuse my ignorance but im just trying to see what kind of possible trouble i got myself into...really my biggest worry is the oil/sludge on the ground...cant get under the car to see where its comig from and cant spot anything from the top

 

[Black '93]

the screming noise that you hear could easily be a leak in the intake since you didi't buy a new gasket kit. It could be ******* air out of there if you didn't tighten it down properly too. If you took all of your hoses off when you took off your intake you also could have forgotten to put one back on and you could have a vacuum leak. Make sure that the rubber gaskets with the clamps along the top of the intake are nice and snug also. As far as the sludge goes, i'm not sure what you have going on. Could be grease and or oil running off of the subframe connector.....Is it snowing or wet where you are at? If you pulled it inside to do the job and it warmed up the car, crap could just be thawing out underneath and dripping... Oh yeah, and I seriously doubt that your block is cracked. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

Next time you post a thread, dont say "please help me". A lot of the smartest SHO guys on here will skip right past your thread unless you state something significant in the title like "having problems after my 60k" or "loud noise after 60k". Just so you know. You'll get a lot more feedback this way.....

 

[93superSHO]

The intake runner to head gaskets are REUSABLE(Thank You, Yamaha). Sounds like you have an "air leak" and the easiest way to find it is spray carb cleaner around the runner to head area while holding the rpm's at about 2000 and if it "studders" or "stalls out" you found your leak. Are you sure the intake is seated properly? Did you plug everything back in? It is NOT a cracked block as there would be antifreeze and/or oil leaking out(if it was an external crack). As far as the "puddle" you have power steering lines back there that could be leaking or if you tampered with the back valve cover you could have "crimped" the gasket causing an oil leak. You will have to look under the cer for a better idea on where it is coming from. Good Luck. Keep us posted

 

[bigLSHO]

yea well there is no snow here so i doubt it is something thawing out and ive been doin the work outside. i tryed to keep it running for a while because at first it was running really rough probably because of the carb cleaner but it started to run fine after that burnt out of the system. i cleaned the carb cleaner out as best i could but i dont think i got it all... but like i said i was having trouble getting it to stay on at idle. as far as the sludge goes i guess i will try to jack it up and take a look because when i was watching it with the car on you could see a little smoke as it dripped and i didnt want to have anything catch on fire. the pile was about the size of a 50cent piece and about 3/4 of an inch deep from only tryin to get it to run for like 5-10 mins...so that is why im worried because what ever is dripping i am lozing a good amount of it and fast. but like i said i didnt touch the back valve cover at all...just did the plugs and wires back there because i couldnt get it loose.

 

[bigLSHO]

and unfortunately it is raining here now so im going to have to wait to try to figure everything out. but if you guys or anyone else have any more ideas please let me know so i can rule things out and get my baby running again. i miss driving it and its only been two days.

 

[bigLSHO]

and as far as the screaming goes it looks like a few of my intake couplers are cracked and worn..one is split almost to the middle. i did take the intake apart before to clean it up and paint it but didnt check the couplers. must have cracked when i removed them, they are 14 years old so i guess i should have been prepared.

 

[SASHO91]

yeah that will cause a bad intake leak....

i used a radiator hose from Auto Zone... Part# is 1157.... you just have to cut them.... and you can get 8 couplers out of it... just incase you mess one of them up...

 

[bigLSHO]

thanks for the info so far guys. im hoping the rain will quit tomorrow, although they are callin for snow again. but i am goin to try to get under the car and see what i can find. anyone have any idea about why to car cant stay on at idle...is it still possible that i have some carb cleaner in my system, like i said i tryed gettin as much out as i could. but as i ran it it seemed to get stronger at lower rpms so im not sure. didnt have time to find out because thats when i noticed the sludge under the car

 

[SASHO91]

if you have ran the car a few times, im sure most of it is gone....

the leak may be from, the oil level sensor(back of oil pan). you can remove it and put some RTV on the washer....

but a better description of the substance would help...

 

[SonicRiot]

the screming noise that you hear could easily be a leak in the intake since you didi't buy a new gasket kit. It could be ******* air out of there if you didn't tighten it down properly too.

A pirate air leak sucks air INTO the air leak, not pushes out. Basic venturi vaccum. Thus, a can of contact cleaner, brake clean, or propane will help you find your leak. The RPMs will rise with the additional fuel sucked in through the pirate air leak.

Are you sure a power steering line or resevior wasn't disturbed in the process or is now leaking? The PS pump is at the top and will whine very loudly when dry and the fluid is often brown and smelly, especially if it's burnt from never being changed.

If you think it's oil, pull the dipstick. If it's full, check the PS fluid.

 

[bigLSHO]

not sure about the power steering. but as far as a description of the substance. its more of a medium brown not light but not as dark as i think oil would be. its thick like a mayonase consistancey and doesnt have a strong smell but its def greasy.

 

[bigLSHO]

well guys it seems that one of my power steering lines wedged itself on to something. possibly when i was trying to move the wireing harness a little bit ot get to some bolts. it melted up against some sort of metal tube back there...now the big question. can i make it the 60 miles to my house, through pittsburgh so i can maybe get it taken care of. because unless you guys have any suggestions i dont know how to go about sealing up that tube...and i def cant reach it to change it. and i already reached down there with some tools to pry it off

 

[bigLSHO]

or possibly when i loosened the bracket back there the clamp that seems to hold one of the lines shifted and no im stuck in this position

 

[bigLSHO]

never mind. i checked the line and it seems fine

 

[SonicRiot]

Is the wheel hard to turn? If so.. PS issue.

60 miles is a long way to drive with no PS. The pump will most likely burn out by then... thats if you make it that far without your arms falling off from fatigue!