Performance exhaust manifolds

[Dieselcircuit]

Sorry if this has been covered before, After reading the direct meth injection thread, I decided to see what picking up a intake manifold to play with would cost, and of course because I was using Bing, and as they say "Nobody Googles like Bing Googles" when searching for intake manifolds it immediately brought up links for exhaust manifolds and I saw the below part. Does anyone know if there are differences between the exhaust manifolds for the F150 ecoboost and ours? Curious if something like this would fit : 2013-2016 F-150 Ecoboost 3.5L Full Bore Upgrade Manifold Set – CR Performance Engineering Inc. (crpengineering.com)

 

[yaycandy]

Rwd and fwd setup are most likely too different.
I had my performance shop look at mine when they were installing them on the new engine. The ported both the in and out and said it helps a bit but the manifold are actually made well that a header or something won't do much

 

[Jordan_R]

They do not work no. Best manifold design we have access to is the 13+ exhaust manifolds. Which honestly are sufficient as the exhaust manifold port is already sized bigger than the heads exhaust port. A light port match to get rid of casting inconsistencies and you're set!

Picture of my matched and ceramic coated 13+ manifolds

 

[Dieselcircuit]

Looks nice,

If you dont mind me asking how much was the machine work for the port match?

 

[Jordan_R]

Looks nice,

If you dont mind me asking how much was the machine work for the port match?

Port match can be done yourself with a dremel in like fifteen minutes. You're just making sure the surfaces that mount up together have an optimal transition

 

[skyshadow07]

I'm with Jordan. If you have a 10-12 model year, upgrade to the 13+ manifolds. If you REALLY want to hunt down every little hp, hand port with a Dremel to match the gaskets. Your choke point is the turbo though.

 

[stripSHO]

Your choke point is the turbo though.

THIS! Dicking around with the manifolds is a most likely a waste of time unless it entails fabbing custom tube headers to bolt to a real turbo (not OEM, not ATP, not GH).

 

[yaycandy]

THIS! Dicking around with the manifolds is a most likely a waste of time unless it entails fabbing custom tube headers to bolt to a real turbo (not OEM, not ATP, not GH).

I had it done, not to make more power but because they were sitting on the table already. Dosnt hurt to get the old cast lines ground down and takes what feels like 10 minutes lol.
Also had the heads ported on both ends and the intake manifold opened up a bit. This was all before the new engine went in so all I could feel is an engine that worked compared to my old stock engine with no compression.

 

[802SHO]

I upgraded to 13+ Exhaust manifolds for my 2010. Cost me about $700 all said and done I think, buying the manifolds, having them ported, thermal coated. Bought brand new from Tasca and had them shipped to Max Power Automotive. Ended up sending in my GH Gen3 turbos to be ported too....that was $100 of the $700. Edit: I asked Matt Pohnan if he thought about a 25-30 hp gain could be expected and he said that would be extremely realistic based on the work performed and the before and after. Felt like it was a good investment. I think this equaled low end up and tq. Not top end. From comparing times with Jordan it appears my car would be slightly ahead but around the 1/8 and after he would walk me. Edit again lol: A lot of different factors comparing against Jordan and his stock turbos so comparing really isn’t accurate...unless we both had the same setup and mine were ported. Lol ok no more edits.

 

[Tyrone Beasly]

Just take the factory ones and have them extrude honed (some still refer to this as laser porting). Im personally NOT a fan of doing cylinder heads this way but exhaust and intakes why not. These headers would work great because there are no hard angles.

Second option is getting the flanges water jet cut and welding up some nice ones. Its not hard just takes time to weld a jig to your table and base it off your original manifold. Then tack it up... You can order stainless bends in all sizes its like playing a puzzle game. As always you need to back purge stainless tube. Nice thing is that its a lil 6..

Personally anything deeper than a 11.00 and you should just go buy another car because NOTHING on this thing is very strong and a mopar with a softball mom runs 10:50@128 with very few upgrades under warranty. However these cars are cheep as #### right now I guess and make great beaters..

 

[skyshadow07]

Name a mopar that is less than $50-60k that runs anything near a 10.50.
Also extrusion honing is a rip off.

 

[Tyrone Beasly]

Nope! a 16-17 hellcat is around $50-60 lower for a rough one. Drag radials and my wife driving its mid 10's..trapping 128.. 60' is 1.6 on average. Trac control off.. Lots of tuners in the DFW area for them. Its tuned for 93 pump gas/pully from Bailys in McKinney Tx. So yeah it should be a little quicker but whatever its still fun. We are about to trade her car for a new one and thats what I suspect I'll get on trade. Plus Hp is cheap with them. Buddy I fly with just spent 5-6k on his sho airport car with ght and I doubt he's mid 12's and thats after we got a tune that it would actually run/shift with. Same money goes MUCH MUCH further with the cat.

I agree with you on affordability, its a cheap, good car that I can play with. Plus its "low key" and "low theft" car I LOVE IT. Driving around in a loud mopar gets attention. Im darker toned and want as few police encounters as possible right now. How many bruthas you see driving a Taurus ROFLMAO!!!!!! Wife is white so she doesn't have the same issues.

Extrusion honing, cast iron manifold not a lot options. You can spend all day grinding on them and you'll never know if the ports flow the same. Extrusion if done right will at least balance. Welding up a set are having someone do it is the only way to go.

 

[skyshadow07]

You just said Nope then reiterated what I said. You are comparing a $60k car with a $10k car.

 

[Tyrone Beasly]

You just said Nope then reiterated what I said. You are comparing a $60k car with a $10k car.

"Nope" as in you were wrong. I can run 10.50 in a Cat for your quoted price. Hey Im sorry If I hurt your feelings my apologies obviously you took offense. Im not dissing your ride either. Just the point is that if you want be quick this is probably not the best car. No harm no fowl. Best of luck

 

[skyshadow07]

I'm not butt hurt. I think you are knee **** replying without reading. You are suggesting a $60k car is a better buy because with fewer mods you can do 10s. I rebuttal that you could have $20k total in a SHO and runs low 12s. $25k total and low 11s. I could have SHO that and a spare 11 second SHO for the price of a Hellcat. And we haven't mentioned depreciation. That's a poor comparison. By that logic, drop another $40k, get a a Tesla and run 10s with no mods. Or drop $180k, get a Porsche Turbo S and run 10s any day and have a resale value. If everyone that wanted to be quick bought the most practical car for going quick, the whole hot rod market would not exist. You think civics are made for speed? No, but holy **** are there some serious contenders.

 

[Tyrone Beasly]

Ecoboostforum or whatever it is find a guy on there named 777pilot or driver.. I fly with him on occasion he may be interested in how to make a SHO run 11's.. Lmao he spent most is overtime check on a sho and a whole load of parts from ght (bought everything they had on hand) and that car won't get out of its own way. I guess it's also depends where you live too. He has a tesla as a family car and I have a hunch its been spanked a few times. You're right its all about money..

 

[stripSHO]

Ecoboostforum or whatever it is find a guy on there named 777pilot or driver.. I fly with him on occasion he may be interested in how to make a SHO run 11's.. Lmao he spent most is overtime check on a sho and a whole load of parts from ght (bought everything they had on hand) and that car won't get out of its own way. I guess it's also depends where you live too. He has a tesla as a family car and I have a hunch its been spanked a few times. You're right its all about money..

I mean... I run 12.3 with just a tune... so 11's with a couple bolt-ons shouldn’t be rocket surgery. But when it comes to hot rodding many people are a lot better at lowering their bank statements than lowering e.t.’s. Buying a **** kitten is probably the least cost-effective route to 10’s there is. You can get far into the 8’s for half that cost.

 

[Tyrone Beasly]

Yeah it’s all money some make more and that’s gods way. My Buick is deep into the 8’s but caged and back halfed and definitely not cheep. Where I live and play around theyre just not competitive and there are better alternatives money. Sorry about disturbing you guys lotta Taurus pride that’s a great thing.

A street driven 10 sec ride with the amenities of a cat for 50k is very affordable but maybe not for all I guess I suppose that’s your point?

 

[stripSHO]

Yeah it’s all money some make more and that’s gods way. My Buick is deep into the 8’s but caged and back halfed and definitely not cheep. Where I live and play around theyre just not competitive and there are better alternatives money. Sorry about disturbing you guys lotta Taurus pride that’s a great thing.

A street driven 10 sec ride with the amenities of a cat for 50k is very affordable but maybe not for all I guess I suppose that’s your point?

The point is if you just want to be quick then a hellcat sure as shit isn’t the best car for the money by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

I mean... I run 12.3 with just a tune... so 11's with a couple bolt-ons shouldn’t be rocket surgery. But when it comes to hot rodding many people are a lot better at lowering their bank statements than lowering e.t.’s. Buying a **** kitten is probably the least cost-effective route to 10’s there is. You can get far into the 8’s for half that cost.

I actually have to agree with @stripSHO here.....think FoxBody...soooooo easy to get into 8s with that platform, and for far less than what you paid for that Hellcat. However, there's oceans of both those cars out there, so where's the fun in that? Im not trying to be another one in that crowd. I personally prefer a challenge and enjoy the journey of making a car that may not be known for being fast, but has a solid potential, and seeing where it can go.

I don’t think many of us do this thinking "bang/buck". I really hate that argument and just shows how simple-minded those who say that, really are. I can DEFINITELY afford a Hellcat, but no thanks...it's being done already, I'll chart a lesser known path...and maybe I won't make 8s, but I'll have a great time getting to whereever it is I'm going. There's a good chance most of us enjoy the modding "journey" more than the "destination", at least that's true for me...