Oil Question

[yaycandy]

The newer designed direct injection engines are now incorporating additional injectors above the valves so the fuel detergents can get at all the deposits.

Thats the ecoboost in the f150 from 2017 to now. Even a new sho engine wont have it. You can just do single port or multiport water meth, more power, cooler combustion temps and an up top cleaning additive. Best of everything

 

[luigisho]

I think they are going to put it in Mustangs as well. The SHO platform is dead so I wouldn't expect any newer design changes. There are add on kits for the Mustang and I'm sure for a fools errand someone could engineer one for older cars.
The point was that this has been an ongoing concern for direct injection engines for a while before Ford introduced the ecoboost lineup. This port injection retro-design feature has already been incorporated by Toyota is being incorporated by Ford and hopefully others.

 

[SHOdded]

Wiki direct injection to realize just how old this tech is, LOL.

Ford btw has done the best job out of all the manufacturers with DI-only cars at avoiding carbon buildup. Then of course they go botch the job with the latest gen of the Coyote. Sigh. Can't win for losing!

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

I use Castrol Magna tech 5w-30,because the Bobstheoilguy.com the supreme oil forum reccomended it for DI turbo motors. It is nicely priced around 19 bucks for 5 at jug(SHO takes 6 qts)@wallyworld.

 

[yaycandy]

I use Castrol Magna tech 5w-30,because the Bobstheoilguy.com the supreme oil forum reccomended it for DI turbo motors. It is nicely priced around 19 bucks for 5 at jug(SHO takes 6 qts)@wallyworld.

I usually use that in my 1.6l miata. Keeps the oil on the camshafts for startups. I just call it magnetic oil, but if you have a magnet on your drain bolt the oil might not flow correctly

 

[DARTHSHO]

The newer Shelby cobra need the 5w50 race oil from ford

 

[b4black]

The ASTM D6335 cited in the Amsoil link is a test for oil coking in a turbocharger. That would have nothing to do with intake valve deposits. Two very different mechanisms for deposit formation.

Oil coking in the turbo charger is a thermal (heat) breakdown of the oil. DI Intake valve deposits are from recycling PCV and EGR through the intake.

 

[SHOdded]

Honda HTO-06 spec briefly mentioned in this document

 

[yaycandy]

The ASTM D6335 cited in the Amsoil link is a test for oil coking in a turbocharger. That would have nothing to do with intake valve deposits. Two very different mechanisms for deposit formation.

Oil coking in the turbo charger is a thermal (heat) breakdown of the oil. DI Intake valve deposits are from recycling PCV and EGR through the intake.

Yea the low friction compression rings on ecoboost engines also makes blow by worse but can get better mpg. Some of the issue. I watched some old ford tech videos from 2010 on how they achieved good mpg from internal components and compromises they had to make for EPA

 

[DARTHSHO]

The ford GT with the ecoboost uses 13 quarts of oil

 

[yaycandy]

The ford GT with the ecoboost uses 13 quarts of oil

Probably dry sump
I seen a drysump kit for fwd and rwd 3.5l ecoboost, looked like a whole oil pan with outlets on it and a chain driven inside somehow. Would cut an inch or 2 off the engine since it dosnt hold the oil but better off seeing if livernois cared enough anymore to design one for their built engines

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

I used a external oil filter that had steel braided lines, used a simple screen on adapter to the oil filter, it used a giant oil filter and the extra lines added about a qt. Of oil and helped cool the oil too. Was like 125 bucks. Filter attached to fender area. In our cars you would play **** to find any usable space for it...