RStalveyARFF
too many shos
Maybe you could build one for $3700, but I'd want one that runs reliably. Sorry Eric that leaves you out of it.
My Nesho Experience
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Maybe you could build one for $3700, but I'd want one that runs reliably. Sorry Eric that leaves you out of it.
E1
Crash Tested
Have we met?
My guess is "No". But you've heard all the stories from Mother Theresa's Vivid imagination. They MUST be 100% true, of course.
I consider the source.
Maybe we should start a seperate "I'm a Kirkette and I've been trained to hate Eric Lehmann thread" - this way we can stick to the subject of Daniel's list of complaints on THIS thread.
So far, Bob's answers seem like they came from someone trying to just discuss the topic.
RStalveyARFF
too many shos
Actually, I haven't heard about you from Kirk. I've heard about you through other dissatisfied people in your area that ended up going to Kirk when their cam welds failed. Kirk was sticking to the complaints and then you decided to butt in as a sideshow. And BTW, it's "Considering the source" you flipping *****. Not, "I consider the source".
SHOWHAT9
SHO Member
Easy to fling that crap, why not just pony up all the names, vin numbers and dates. I saw Dinwidde's car. You didn't. I told Eric not to touch it, it was a nightmare that even Kirk may have walked from if he saw it. But Eric Tried to help the guy. Unless anybody can throw down EVIDENCE, wow what a concept, then it is nothing more than figner pointing and name calling on the part of NESHO.
Pony up the facts. What's that I hear??? *crickets*
You peoples is crazy! 
Kirk has already said he would warranty the transmission if something is found wrong, and would swap the driveline into a new shell at no cost. Having him give you a FULL refund sounds crazy at this point, you should've brought everything up before replacing all the parts. It just seems at this point you want the car gone and can't sell it for what you bought it from Kirk for, and now want a full refund just to get it out of your hands.
Buying a used car means buying a car with parts on it that are used as well and can break, lock up, or whatever at any time. The only problems on your list that are reasonable to hold Kirk acountable for are:
Item Time (hr) Money
Replace split heater hose 1.0 $5.00 [possibly stressed during motor swap]
Replace smashed front metal bumper 5.0 $10.00 [no excuses on that one!]
Replace broken glovebox 0.5 $10.00 [Who buys a car and doesn't open the glovebox?]
Replace faulty MFS 0.5 [Should've been serviced with the tranny]
Fix broken CD changer 1.0 $10.00 [If mentioned it had a CD changer]
Clean overspray off windows 2.0 [No excuse for someone very detailed about things]
Replace Transmission mount 2.5 $30.00 [should've known the condition w/motor swap]
Replace pinched tranny line 2.0 $15.00 [possibly from motor swap]
Replace TCC Solenoid 3.5 $25.00 [Should've been serviced with the tranny]
Total Cost 18.0 $105.00
The best thing that can be done in my opinion, is NESHO reimbursting the $105 in parts and coming to a conclusion on the labor time, as a non-mechanic takes longer to replace parts than a real mechanic, meaning the 18 hours is not valued the same as 18 hours from a real shop. Or, calling it even with the free ride and stay to have the transmission warrantied, unless that's a normal practice. A full refund does not make sense at this time with all the work you did, while knowing the problems. As for the poor paint job, something should be done about that but you're just as accountable for that as well...you had to see the exterior on delivery. Maybe split the cost, otherwise fix it yourself since you had the chance to speak up on delivery. You made a big mistake by going to a "friends" house!
The rest of the "who services more cars and has more success without failures" is useless and not making anyone look better than the other. The public eye is wanting to know how is this situation going to fold out.
Kirk has already said he would warranty the transmission if something is found wrong, and would swap the driveline into a new shell at no cost. Having him give you a FULL refund sounds crazy at this point, you should've brought everything up before replacing all the parts. It just seems at this point you want the car gone and can't sell it for what you bought it from Kirk for, and now want a full refund just to get it out of your hands.
Buying a used car means buying a car with parts on it that are used as well and can break, lock up, or whatever at any time. The only problems on your list that are reasonable to hold Kirk acountable for are:
Item Time (hr) Money
Replace split heater hose 1.0 $5.00 [possibly stressed during motor swap]
Replace smashed front metal bumper 5.0 $10.00 [no excuses on that one!]
Replace broken glovebox 0.5 $10.00 [Who buys a car and doesn't open the glovebox?]
Replace faulty MFS 0.5 [Should've been serviced with the tranny]
Fix broken CD changer 1.0 $10.00 [If mentioned it had a CD changer]
Clean overspray off windows 2.0 [No excuse for someone very detailed about things]
Replace Transmission mount 2.5 $30.00 [should've known the condition w/motor swap]
Replace pinched tranny line 2.0 $15.00 [possibly from motor swap]
Replace TCC Solenoid 3.5 $25.00 [Should've been serviced with the tranny]
Total Cost 18.0 $105.00
The best thing that can be done in my opinion, is NESHO reimbursting the $105 in parts and coming to a conclusion on the labor time, as a non-mechanic takes longer to replace parts than a real mechanic, meaning the 18 hours is not valued the same as 18 hours from a real shop. Or, calling it even with the free ride and stay to have the transmission warrantied, unless that's a normal practice. A full refund does not make sense at this time with all the work you did, while knowing the problems. As for the poor paint job, something should be done about that but you're just as accountable for that as well...you had to see the exterior on delivery. Maybe split the cost, otherwise fix it yourself since you had the chance to speak up on delivery. You made a big mistake by going to a "friends" house!
The rest of the "who services more cars and has more success without failures" is useless and not making anyone look better than the other. The public eye is wanting to know how is this situation going to fold out.
DDakRT
New Member
You peoples is crazy!
Kirk has already said he would warranty the transmission if something is found wrong, and would swap the driveline into a new shell at no cost. Having him give you a FULL refund sounds crazy at this point, you should've brought everything up before replacing all the parts. It just seems at this point you want the car gone and can't sell it for what you bought it from Kirk for, and now want a full refund just to get it out of your hands.
That is what I got out of this thread.
Revere sho
SHO Member
not defending anybody but man this is some juicy stuff. honestly ive never seen the car, kirk seems like a pretty cool guy, im just a hot head but you guys should work it out and respectivly see where each person is coming from. or do what i did
ditch the sho and buy an srt8 everyone should have one.
ditch the sho and buy an srt8 everyone should have one.
Revere sho
SHO Member
o ya kirk can you check my pm when you get a chance.
Silvapain
New Member
First off, forgive me everyone for not responding sooner. I just bought my first house and moved in this past weekend, and I don't have internet hooked up yet.
As some are questioning my complaints, I will take pictures of the tar in the grab handles, tears in the doors, and glue fingerprints on the dash and post them tomorrow. I will also post pictures of the misaligned and badly painted front clip body panels for all to see.
For those who question my lack of inspection upon delivery, all I can answer with is that Kirk told me of some minor issues (interior not detailed, headlights foggy, steering wheel damaged), and I trusted his word. I intended to drive the car down to Ashkum as a test-drive to check out the mechanicals, but Kirk talked me out of it. As I stated earlier, I trusted Kirk's word and thought nothing more of it.
Kirk - I don't recall ever telling you the A/C blew out cold. The first time I turned it on, it did not work. I agree that the driver's wheel hub did not need replacement. However, the passenger side one most definitely did. As far as the ABS, the light in the dash is burnt out so no light would show. I know this because it does not light up in the startup check. I have not had the time to find the cause, but I can assure you the ABS system currently does not work. The TC did not lock up properly from day one, and the 1-2 shift "floats" and then slams, and this has also been happening from day one. I know my transmission is under warranty, but does that cover the time and money to drive it out to MA and get it fixed? This is a daily-driver, I can't be without it for a couple days.
Bob - I question whether you properly checked all interior lights at the shop because both map lights had the bulbs removed and the bulbs were rattling around in the housing. There was also a missing bulb on the passenger side footwell. The issue with the moonroof was a reasult of broken plastic pieces from the shattered black trim ring around the moonroof. I have finally been able to remove all the pieces, but have yet to replace the trim ring.
Randy - I did not wait 45 days to talk to Kirk about the car. I talked to him about a P1742, P1743, and P1744 issue long before that. I also figured that a $5000 car would naturally have some minor issues, so I just fixed things as they came up; but as the cost kept climbing and I kept finding even more things wrong like the pinched tranny line dumping fluid everywhere, I decided that enough was enough. I can assure you that the A/C issue is not simply a recharge - I have a set of professional gauges and know what a recharge issue looks like. I've also de-shimmed the clutch to no avail. This is a bad compressor from what I've seen.
TYSHO - I'm afraid I don't know your real name, sorry - I didn't pay $5000 just to put a drive line that I question the reliability of into a new body. Besides, I took out a loan for this car and I don't think the bank would appreciate that level of "modification". Honestly, once the car is put on a rack and the unibody straightened and the damaged body panels replaced this car would be fine body-wise. There is no rust at all on the car. The TCC solenoid has already been replaced by me. That's not the issue. It's either a bad pump or a bad TC. Also, you are not figuring in the cost for a new bumper cover, passenger side fender (current one has bad waves in it), and a full front-clip repaint. You wouldn't know this was need though because I haven't posted pictures of the body; I apologize and as I said above I'll post them tomorrow. As far as a non-mechanic taking longer: You find me a shop, dealership or otherwise, that will 1. work on a SHO, and 2. be able to replace a TCC solenoid in 3.5 hours on a SHO and you let me know. I am by no means an expert like some on SHOForum when it comes to a Gen 3 SHO, but I guarantee you I know it a ton better than any mechanic I could ever find around here.
Doug - It was never my intention to screw you over with that black 97 and I hope it's found a good home.
Kirk, you're right that I'm on three lists and post quite frequently on all three of them. Those lists have taught me two things: I know SHOs are expensive cars; and I also have a fairly good understanding of what one in the condition mine is in is worth. Frankly, I have put so much time and money into this car already that it would be hard for me to get rid of it. I still love SHOs and think this car could be a great one; I just don't think it's worth what I paid for. I also don't believe you had $10K in this car as you told me in an email. As always, you are free to give me a call on my cell phone at 630-642-0865 or email me at [email protected] anytime if you wish to discuss this offline.
As some are questioning my complaints, I will take pictures of the tar in the grab handles, tears in the doors, and glue fingerprints on the dash and post them tomorrow. I will also post pictures of the misaligned and badly painted front clip body panels for all to see.
For those who question my lack of inspection upon delivery, all I can answer with is that Kirk told me of some minor issues (interior not detailed, headlights foggy, steering wheel damaged), and I trusted his word. I intended to drive the car down to Ashkum as a test-drive to check out the mechanicals, but Kirk talked me out of it. As I stated earlier, I trusted Kirk's word and thought nothing more of it.
Kirk - I don't recall ever telling you the A/C blew out cold. The first time I turned it on, it did not work. I agree that the driver's wheel hub did not need replacement. However, the passenger side one most definitely did. As far as the ABS, the light in the dash is burnt out so no light would show. I know this because it does not light up in the startup check. I have not had the time to find the cause, but I can assure you the ABS system currently does not work. The TC did not lock up properly from day one, and the 1-2 shift "floats" and then slams, and this has also been happening from day one. I know my transmission is under warranty, but does that cover the time and money to drive it out to MA and get it fixed? This is a daily-driver, I can't be without it for a couple days.
Bob - I question whether you properly checked all interior lights at the shop because both map lights had the bulbs removed and the bulbs were rattling around in the housing. There was also a missing bulb on the passenger side footwell. The issue with the moonroof was a reasult of broken plastic pieces from the shattered black trim ring around the moonroof. I have finally been able to remove all the pieces, but have yet to replace the trim ring.
Randy - I did not wait 45 days to talk to Kirk about the car. I talked to him about a P1742, P1743, and P1744 issue long before that. I also figured that a $5000 car would naturally have some minor issues, so I just fixed things as they came up; but as the cost kept climbing and I kept finding even more things wrong like the pinched tranny line dumping fluid everywhere, I decided that enough was enough. I can assure you that the A/C issue is not simply a recharge - I have a set of professional gauges and know what a recharge issue looks like. I've also de-shimmed the clutch to no avail. This is a bad compressor from what I've seen.
TYSHO - I'm afraid I don't know your real name, sorry - I didn't pay $5000 just to put a drive line that I question the reliability of into a new body. Besides, I took out a loan for this car and I don't think the bank would appreciate that level of "modification". Honestly, once the car is put on a rack and the unibody straightened and the damaged body panels replaced this car would be fine body-wise. There is no rust at all on the car. The TCC solenoid has already been replaced by me. That's not the issue. It's either a bad pump or a bad TC. Also, you are not figuring in the cost for a new bumper cover, passenger side fender (current one has bad waves in it), and a full front-clip repaint. You wouldn't know this was need though because I haven't posted pictures of the body; I apologize and as I said above I'll post them tomorrow. As far as a non-mechanic taking longer: You find me a shop, dealership or otherwise, that will 1. work on a SHO, and 2. be able to replace a TCC solenoid in 3.5 hours on a SHO and you let me know. I am by no means an expert like some on SHOForum when it comes to a Gen 3 SHO, but I guarantee you I know it a ton better than any mechanic I could ever find around here.
Doug - It was never my intention to screw you over with that black 97 and I hope it's found a good home.
Kirk, you're right that I'm on three lists and post quite frequently on all three of them. Those lists have taught me two things: I know SHOs are expensive cars; and I also have a fairly good understanding of what one in the condition mine is in is worth. Frankly, I have put so much time and money into this car already that it would be hard for me to get rid of it. I still love SHOs and think this car could be a great one; I just don't think it's worth what I paid for. I also don't believe you had $10K in this car as you told me in an email. As always, you are free to give me a call on my cell phone at 630-642-0865 or email me at [email protected] anytime if you wish to discuss this offline.
But if it was that bad, you should've noticed it on delivery and spoke up, right? Or, did it happen to be delivered at night?
Being talked out of test driving the car that day sounds like a red flag to me.
Do you have any old emails of Kirk stating the car was in top of the line condition like you were expecting, or did you just expect that because the car was coming from Kirk?
I'm not on anyone's side, but it just looks like your trust and expectations where in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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And this helps solve problems how????........Why don't you two just go out on a date and get it over with.
Eastcoast SHO
SHO
bizzy i dont mean no disrespect at all, it just lighten up the situation which has seems to turn very serious
SHODWN
Mother Threasa
And all of this could have been handled by simple emails and discussion, slamming me will get you absolutely No where. I told you what I had into that car dollar for dollar and it was an honest figure.
If you need a front clip because your not happy, just ask. if you want a compressor just ask, I dont beleive it to be the compressor as the AC worked just fine when it left here, so didnt all of the other things that you had to replace.
Spending 5k for one of these is nothing! Sorry to say that! do you think that any other car would have all brand new everything for that price? It would not have and I know you know that.
You know that im in Chicago lately at least once a month and a simple phone call with " hey man can you bring me one of these" If I have it its yours just like I do with most people. You made a purchase, that puts you a bit higher on the list of getting stuff from me. I have tone of stuff and again anything that I do have you are more then welcome to. Im sure that with the two idiots ******* and whining in your ears it made you feel far worse.
Going to Eric and Larry does absolutely Nothing! they have no pull in this world, No one knows them and the ones that do dont like them. Look at thier post count on here they only leave thier safe house to flame someone and thats it. Shit man more then half of SHOCAGO hates them, this should tell you something!!!!
Telling people that you got hosed is wrong, when that car left here it checked out fine, I wasnt happy about a small crack in the tail light and I asked Randy to swap it out, as it went on my truck ( I was on the road for 4 weeks straight then) the car ran, drove, all the lights worked and the ABS worked. I was emailing you about the stuff that there was no way that it would fit in the time frame and you said dont worry and thanks for all I was doing.
Since then I have done mulitple engine and trans swaps at the tune of 5k, 5k is not alot of money when you look at the cost of things. This is a shop, im glad Eric could have done the same for 3700.00, again this is with out paying taxes, shop rent, shop ins, labor for employees and the fuel of getting the car from Nashville to spencer and from Spencer to you. Do the math, do you really think I made a dime on this car? I did not.
My offers stand for you. No matter what Eric and Larry want its between you and I. if you find the MINT chassis Ill swap in ALL of your parts for NADA. Find a Gen 4 dead engine car with a million miles and Ill do the swap. Call me and tell me you need x,y,z on my next trip out and Ill get it for you. WITHOUT QUESTION.
As far as Eric and Larry. lets count how many cars at this years convention I have welded over you guys. Lets see how many proudly display the Nesho banner and count the states. You two are in bed together, the world of v8sho.com everyone knows this. No matter what goes worng with an Eric Car Larry will certainly cover it up. Proof? what proof when you destroy it. I have Dinwiddie Cams though that I will be showing people at the convention.
I do have though 5 cars that you had deemed a camfailure and it was not! So when I do get to speak my peace with Ford as they have been in contact with me Ill give them that info to make sure that ALL of your lies are found.
Also you and Larrys Engine are on trial, its called charchter witness, and I just blew hole in your defense. You have to be a credable witness to get anywhere in court. your failures have been posted here! I have a few of them and the rest of your comunity laughs loudly behind your back about Larrys engine-s. and as far as me pointing out the Issue to Larry, if he was a man he would state that I said listen to the car and its gauges!!!!!! Not the NGS which he thought was fery cool to look at. " I know the gauge it ******* but the NGS says 210 degrees so it must be fine!" KABOOM... then he comes to me to look at it and I was ME " yup your fuked"!
its called poetic justice, after saying shit about Me breaking down, then Tony having a battery problem and your and you car load say " I hope where not here all FU***ing day! Sorry man the caravans all work together, someone breaks we all stay together and come up with a solution. I would love to go back through the desert again! I loved it even with my breakdown and the added expense of a rental car.
next time dont complain and maybe your bad karma would be a factor!
Im out! if you two want to continue to slam me and make your post count get over 50 go ahead. Im done with the two of you, Dan if you want to talk my number is posted everyehere at every website that has to do with the SHO and we can work though it together.
Ill be on the road from 7/5/07 to 7/10/07 working all SHO's getting them ready for the convention in Chicago, Peoria and Nashville. Anyone wonder why Im working on cars in ILL when the two boys are out there? the answer is pretty easy. Same reason I do cam welds out there.
Later
If you need a front clip because your not happy, just ask. if you want a compressor just ask, I dont beleive it to be the compressor as the AC worked just fine when it left here, so didnt all of the other things that you had to replace.
Spending 5k for one of these is nothing! Sorry to say that! do you think that any other car would have all brand new everything for that price? It would not have and I know you know that.
You know that im in Chicago lately at least once a month and a simple phone call with " hey man can you bring me one of these" If I have it its yours just like I do with most people. You made a purchase, that puts you a bit higher on the list of getting stuff from me. I have tone of stuff and again anything that I do have you are more then welcome to. Im sure that with the two idiots ******* and whining in your ears it made you feel far worse.
Going to Eric and Larry does absolutely Nothing! they have no pull in this world, No one knows them and the ones that do dont like them. Look at thier post count on here they only leave thier safe house to flame someone and thats it. Shit man more then half of SHOCAGO hates them, this should tell you something!!!!
Telling people that you got hosed is wrong, when that car left here it checked out fine, I wasnt happy about a small crack in the tail light and I asked Randy to swap it out, as it went on my truck ( I was on the road for 4 weeks straight then) the car ran, drove, all the lights worked and the ABS worked. I was emailing you about the stuff that there was no way that it would fit in the time frame and you said dont worry and thanks for all I was doing.
Since then I have done mulitple engine and trans swaps at the tune of 5k, 5k is not alot of money when you look at the cost of things. This is a shop, im glad Eric could have done the same for 3700.00, again this is with out paying taxes, shop rent, shop ins, labor for employees and the fuel of getting the car from Nashville to spencer and from Spencer to you. Do the math, do you really think I made a dime on this car? I did not.
My offers stand for you. No matter what Eric and Larry want its between you and I. if you find the MINT chassis Ill swap in ALL of your parts for NADA. Find a Gen 4 dead engine car with a million miles and Ill do the swap. Call me and tell me you need x,y,z on my next trip out and Ill get it for you. WITHOUT QUESTION.
As far as Eric and Larry. lets count how many cars at this years convention I have welded over you guys. Lets see how many proudly display the Nesho banner and count the states. You two are in bed together, the world of v8sho.com everyone knows this. No matter what goes worng with an Eric Car Larry will certainly cover it up. Proof? what proof when you destroy it. I have Dinwiddie Cams though that I will be showing people at the convention.
I do have though 5 cars that you had deemed a camfailure and it was not! So when I do get to speak my peace with Ford as they have been in contact with me Ill give them that info to make sure that ALL of your lies are found.
Also you and Larrys Engine are on trial, its called charchter witness, and I just blew hole in your defense. You have to be a credable witness to get anywhere in court. your failures have been posted here! I have a few of them and the rest of your comunity laughs loudly behind your back about Larrys engine-s. and as far as me pointing out the Issue to Larry, if he was a man he would state that I said listen to the car and its gauges!!!!!! Not the NGS which he thought was fery cool to look at. " I know the gauge it ******* but the NGS says 210 degrees so it must be fine!" KABOOM... then he comes to me to look at it and I was ME " yup your fuked"!
its called poetic justice, after saying shit about Me breaking down, then Tony having a battery problem and your and you car load say " I hope where not here all FU***ing day! Sorry man the caravans all work together, someone breaks we all stay together and come up with a solution. I would love to go back through the desert again! I loved it even with my breakdown and the added expense of a rental car.
next time dont complain and maybe your bad karma would be a factor!
Im out! if you two want to continue to slam me and make your post count get over 50 go ahead. Im done with the two of you, Dan if you want to talk my number is posted everyehere at every website that has to do with the SHO and we can work though it together.
Ill be on the road from 7/5/07 to 7/10/07 working all SHO's getting them ready for the convention in Chicago, Peoria and Nashville. Anyone wonder why Im working on cars in ILL when the two boys are out there? the answer is pretty easy. Same reason I do cam welds out there.
Later
Silvapain
New Member
Kirk, I asked for a driver's side floormat months ago via email with no response. When I didn't get a response from emailing you I asked the V8 list to see if I could buy one and you told me you had one at your shop for me. Still haven't seen it. I did not know you are in this area that frequently, and I did not slam you. I simply stated the issues I've had, the conversations we've had, and my feelings on our transaction. I have not made a single attack on you personally.
As far as going to Eric and Larry, that's not the case. Eric asked me who I bought the car from after reading many posts on the V8 list about problems I was having with it, and I told him. I specifically requested he not tell anyone else who I bought the car from while I talked with you via email trying to get this issue resolved. When I could not get a resolution to my satisfaction, I decided to post on here. Simple as that.
I was more than fine with the car being dirty and headlights needing a good cleaning or replacement and other minor things. This is far more than that; There is frame damage and poorly repaired bodywork on the car, and there have been major mechanical issues with the car.
On to the pictures:
Tar in Door Handle:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3767.jpg
Example Tear in Door:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3770.jpg
Wavy Passenger Fender:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3771.jpg
Unpainted Lower Passenger Fender:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3772.jpg
Unpainted Lip Passenger Fender:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3773.jpg
Bad Taping Job:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3774.jpg
Misaligned Body Panels:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3775.jpg
Unpainted Lower Fascia Front Bumper Cover:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3776.jpg
Ripped Driver's Side of Bumper Cover (Note Poor Attempt at Gluing):
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3779.jpg
Passenger Side Fender Spacers:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3780.jpg
Cracked Radiator Support:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3781.jpg
Fingerprint in Glue on Dash:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3784.jpg
More Glue on Dash (Note: black cluster trim already replaced in picture):
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3785.jpg
As far as going to Eric and Larry, that's not the case. Eric asked me who I bought the car from after reading many posts on the V8 list about problems I was having with it, and I told him. I specifically requested he not tell anyone else who I bought the car from while I talked with you via email trying to get this issue resolved. When I could not get a resolution to my satisfaction, I decided to post on here. Simple as that.
I was more than fine with the car being dirty and headlights needing a good cleaning or replacement and other minor things. This is far more than that; There is frame damage and poorly repaired bodywork on the car, and there have been major mechanical issues with the car.
On to the pictures:
Tar in Door Handle:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3767.jpg
Example Tear in Door:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3770.jpg
Wavy Passenger Fender:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3771.jpg
Unpainted Lower Passenger Fender:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3772.jpg
Unpainted Lip Passenger Fender:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3773.jpg
Bad Taping Job:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3774.jpg
Misaligned Body Panels:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3775.jpg
Unpainted Lower Fascia Front Bumper Cover:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3776.jpg
Ripped Driver's Side of Bumper Cover (Note Poor Attempt at Gluing):
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3779.jpg
Passenger Side Fender Spacers:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3780.jpg
Cracked Radiator Support:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3781.jpg
Fingerprint in Glue on Dash:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3784.jpg
More Glue on Dash (Note: black cluster trim already replaced in picture):
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/silvapain/IMG_3785.jpg
crixtopher
New Member
I gotta say Daniel , from those pictures it doesn't really seem all that bad. my car has been meticulously maintained by me for 3 years, is a 9 yr old car , and it has many issues as bad or worse than that. I do not have a refreshed engine or tranny and I paid over $6k for mine. we're still talking about $5k here. I am in no way trying to bypass any issues you may have, just sayin....I was waiting to see if I'd be horrified by the pictures and I am not 
RStalveyARFF
too many shos
Wow dude, you're making a stink over that? I just bought a $25,000 truck and my limited slip doesn't work and my power steering pump shit the bed. It's a used car, you gotta take the bad with the good. When you said the radiator support was cracked I was thinking it was cracked. You bought a 10 year old car, it's definitely not going to be perfect. Kirk can pretty much pull miracles but it'd be tough to find like-new parts for that without paying a pretty penny. A lot more than the $5k you paid.
SHOspazz92
Banned
I gotta say Daniel , from those pictures it doesn't really seem all that bad. my car has been meticulously maintained by me for 3 years, is a 9 yr old car , and it has many issues as bad or worse than that. I do not have a refreshed engine or tranny and I paid over $6k for mine. we're still talking about $5k here. I am in no way trying to bypass any issues you may have, just sayin....I was waiting to see if I'd be horrified by the pictures and I am not
X's 2. You get what you pay for. And if you paid 5 grand for that then it looks like you got a Fair deal. Transmission failing or not, Thats an easy Fix as its still under Warentee. I understand that you stated your reasons for not looking at the car before you purchased it or before Kirk Delivered it...But that was a Big Mistake on your part and you just simply need to own up to that. The reason I say this because your definition of a good condition 10 year old car and Kirk's definition of a good condition 10 year old car can be two completely different things. In my opinion it looks like your Nit-Picking on all the cosmetic stuff. Like I said, You get what you paid for and you Paid 5 grand for a car with a Rebuilt Engine/Tranny. Looks to me the cars condition reflects such, As its really not that bad.
PROPHET
Well-Known Member
I guess I'm a nit-picker too as all those things that are pictured would have bothered me, but I'd never buy a car without looking at it either, as I trust noone.
Shoaz
Studly dood
Caveat emptor: basically, the responsibility is on the buyer to make sure things are acceptable before taking possession. And I agree that the pics aren't that bad for a 10-year-old car for the money in question.
This is a disappointing thread in oh, so many ways... :shakehead
This is a disappointing thread in oh, so many ways... :shakehead
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