MTX-IV rebuild kit chose problem

[tool88]

this post is worthless but dosnt the noble have a transmission that would bolt to the engine as they used the Taurus and i believe that the noble is in the 360 ***** range

 

[Art5]

Wow about languages and as for tranny,they have couple of V6 engines in europe on fords, that , maybe tranny could work on our shos, but who would be the first one to find out?

 

[Art5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_MTX_transmission

here, interesting fact


I wonder if 2.0 ecoboost engine that is coming out will be available with manual transmission and will fit onto vulcan pattern

 

[rennenmsports]

Sounds like there is a problem keeping the manual transmission alive. Blocking rings and synchros are obsolete! Mine needs 1-2 blocking ring and possibly the synchro. Along with reverse gear parts (grinding into reverse occasionally). Mazda made the trans correct? They must have a Mazda with the same transmission internals. Maybe not the ratios or the case half that bolts to the engine but if we research we will find. All that engineering for only one car built by another manufacturer. I highly doubt it!!! Lets start with what Mazdas are V6 front wheel drive with a manual transmission. I can only think of the 626 93'-97'. 88'-92' Ford Probe. Any help out there???

 

[jimtash]

Probes don't use an MTX based transmission. The clutch mechanisms are hydraulic and not cable operated. It's a shame too because the '93 and up Probe GT can be equipped with Japanese market Mazda transaxles with factory LSDs in them. Ford likes to cheap out (as we all know) because they could've opted for 200HP KLZE high compression solid lifter engine instead of the 164HP KLDE low compression hydraulic lifter engine along with the LSD transmission and had a dominant car back then. But that would've taken sales away from the Mustang especially since the Probe was much more refined. Keep in mind these cars can handle almost as good as a Corvette from the same time period from the factory and they have no torque steer because of equal length axles so 35HP extra HP would've made it a great car and taken its toll on Mustang sales.

The 1980's Ford Escorts used the MTX-III transmissions which are Mazda made units that I recall hearing somewhere could handle 275HP before breaking. I'm thinking the MTX-IV is an uprated version of it.

 

[jedhead]

The problem with trying to get internal transmission parts made is price vs demand. Demand is very small so the price is very high. You could get some one to make the parts to rebuild the transmission, but the transmissions would cost thousands of dollars and you would need to collect cash up front before production would even get started. Sourcing parts in Japan was attempted, but MTX-IV was not used in Japan and did not have syncros and blocking rings used in other transmissions.

Bob

 

[Lord Anubis]

Last I read a member (shomethe$$$) was planning on using the gearset out of a EVO 8 AWD W5M51 tranny. I haven't seen anything since about that but it would be interesting if it could be done, maybe pm him and see where he's at.
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=119528&page=2
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?p=1320329#post1320329

Also how would the A65M-R from a Mazda 6 with the 3.0 Duratec V6 work? I know its been used in the gen3 v8 for an MTX swap. I don't have a Sho yet so I have no idea if any of that was helpful.

 

[rennenmsports]

So I guess the answer is that the MTX-IV is SHO specific. In other words Ford had Mazda custom make one. Then Mazda cut Ford off for parts. At my work when equipment breaks we get the numbers off of bearings to order them from bearing manufacturers rather then ordering bearings from the equipment manufacturers. Its more cost efficient. If I can get the numbers off the bearings I can most likely get upgraded versions due to the fact that the old ones are discontinued. But, would have the same dimensions and most likely be an all round better due to technology advancing over the years. locateballbearings.com. They will due the research for you. All you need are the numbers off the bearings and tell them there purpose. Now if we could figure out where to have blocker rings custom made. Maybe we could get some kind of group buy happening.

 

[jedhead]

Bearings are available. All the other internal parts are not. I believe the duratec has a different bolt pattern and the transmission won't bolt up to the Yamaha SHO engine.

Bob

 

[Phoenix]

Bearings are available. All the other internal parts are not. I believe the duratec has a different bolt pattern and the transmission won't bolt up to the Yamaha SHO engine.

Bob

Not all of them , theres 2 in there that you cant get. And I tried. I dont remember which ones specifically but I needed THAT one of course.

Shonut confirmed me this , and I went to 2 bearing store and one called directly at KOYO to try to snatch one. No luck.

 

[rennenmsports]

Not all of them , theres 2 in there that you cant get. And I tried. I dont remember which ones specifically but I needed THAT one of course.

Shonut confirmed me this , and I went to 2 bearing store and one called directly at KOYO to try to snatch one. No luck.

Could you get me all the numbers and letters on both of those bearings?

 

[Denny]

In Soviet Russia, transmission rebuilds you!


Okay, so in all seriousness. To summarize the only way to "rebuild" a trans is to use spare parts from other assemblies.

If one were to undertake an MTX rebuild what parts are needed?

What is a fair cost to have a shop do this work?

My Quaiffed equipped MTX will not hold 5th gear and holy **** does it sound awful "whine/whirr" type of sounds. Looking to possibly have it taken out and either swapped with another assembly or take the two trans and make one good one... just need to assess what I would be spending on this.

 

[ooRAVENooo]

I think I had one of the last full sets of rotating parts when I rebuilt mine some time ago:



As for the MTX75?. Sure, anything is possible. You would have to fab up a bellhousing adaptor, swap in the hydraulic clutch parts, and make some custom axles.

 

[ooRAVENooo]

I have a 4th gen 1995 sho tuarus 3.0 mtx transmission and shortly before it grenaded I noticed the revers would grind until the trany slowed down.i did some studying and found out this is couse by a ring under the locking gear that slows the gears down slow enough to engage the next gear. I know there are no full rebuild kits out there but I was wondering it there was a kit to put new rings and seals in.if anyone knows please message me.