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[93SHO_2]

The waterpump, O rings, T belt, A belt, CkPS are all in, the car runs great, not a single drip. It was dark last night when I finished, kids were all gathered around making their demands, laundry was in process, the phone rang 20 times while the better half was out shopping. It was not an un-interrupted process. Today after about 100 miles I found the oil slinger (that thin metal disk that is between the crank damper and the crank timing belt gear) on the floor of the garage.
Do I :
1.) trade it in
2.) be happy don't worry (there is no oil to
sling anyway since the crank seal is not
leaking)
3.) tear it apart again ?

If 3, can the lower timing cover be removed without removing the middle timing cover on a 3.2?

 

[Mr Anonymous]

3, and you have to remove all the covers. And call around to make sure there is a new timing belt (maybe even a CPS) readily available to you locally if you find it (them) damaged. It's not an oil slinger BTW, it keeps the timing belt from walking off the sprockets. Oh, and don't start the car again until you fix it. If you're lucky, the belt itself and the CPS haven't been damaged yet and all you'll have to do is install the washer.

 

[sdpatt]

3. Tear it apart again.

The left over part is not an oil slinger, but the timing belt guide washer. The main crankshaft oil seal better keep any oil from getting on the crankshaft timing belt pulley. You may find some wear on the interior of the plastic timing belt covers, but hopefully you won't drive it enough(?) to do any more damage to the covers and the timing belt. Be prepared to replace the belt if it is frayed on the external edge.

The guide fits against the external side of the timing belt pulley, the flare goes outward from the timing belt pulley. It is also inside the lower timing belt cover and is sandwiched by the crank damper. Make sure you tighten that damper bolt to the high side of the 113-126 lb-ft range.

 

[93SHO_2]

Will do 3. headbang

Since the spacer sits in front of the belt, how does it protect the CkPS which sits behind the belt?

 

[SHOoff89]

I think it would keep the belt from slapping around, but that is just a guess.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

93SHO_2:
Will do 3. headbang

Since the spacer sits in front of the belt, how does it protect the CkPS which sits behind the belt?

It doesn't protect the CPS, but when you don't install it and the timing belt starts to shred, the CPS will often get whacked by the flailing pieces of timing belt, damaging or breaking it.

 

[shobikes]

'sOK dude - don't beat yourself up. When I did my 60k a few weeks ago, I got the whole thing back together and torqued, only to find my lower timing cover sitting on the workbench (!!!). It goes way faster the second time around !

I think it's the old "light at the end of the tunnel" concentration lapse, which usually leads to the oncoming freight train... eek!

 

[autobahnsho]

Yup- Spare Parts left over from a SHO job are bad.

I did the same thing on my CPS job this summer. I bet you don't forget it again!!


ps- Spare parts when fixing Army equipment is commonplace.. The difference between Mil. Spec. and COTS (commercial off the shelf) equipment is around $10k and a handful of washers...

pps- I now put parts (no matter how small) in sandwich ziploc bags and mark with a permanent marker where it came from and what size wrench (screwdriver, socket, whatever) to use on it. Then I keep all the baggies together. This helped IMMENSELY on my clutch job. That way I don't have to try and remember where everything went, and don't worry about forgetting anything.

<small>[ November 15, 2003, 03:05 PM: Message edited by: autobahnsho ]</small>

 

[93SHO_2]

Spacer (slinger) is in, 2.5 hours, wow SHO'sw are easy to work on if you have done the same procedures 24 hours earlier.

S Pratt should not disclose his mailing address, but he needs an Xmas (Christmas for agnostics) card from every one in the forum. He has accurate unbiased advise unfrettered by engineering one-up-ed-ness.

Thanks.