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darreli

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My fault for really calling it 5 in the first place. Dan had a couple different tunes we were testing and ultimately the best of all that ended up being Stage 4. Not to say things won't change and improvements won't be made. In my opinion there really only has to be one stage w/ and w/o torque management maybe. But that's my personal opinion...give me the tune that runs the best and that's the only stage u need.
 

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Sweet Bob! Let us know what you think....Livernois does a great job, I'm sure you'll be happy!!
 

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I am confused. It is my understanding that the stage 3&4 tunes both have no torque management. Only the stage 2 tune has reduced torque management. Reading some of these post people are saying the stage 3 has torque management?
 

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Add this with my new Borla exhaust and I feel like I have created somewhat of the perfect daily driver. Swift, docile, tamed, yet an animal when need be. The Borla has a nice down low grunt and rumble like a Subie STI, somewhat like a v8, and has a nice growl as you increase the revs. Hopefully I find someone with a decent video camera soon to make a good video for everyone to hear. It sounds completely different than the Corsa. I would say its rather loud for just a cat back exhaust too.

Hope this helps some of you guys on the fence. Feel free to ask any questions.

Were you able to get a video?
 

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My fault for really calling it 5 in the first place. Dan had a couple different tunes we were testing and ultimately the best of all that ended up being Stage 4. Not to say things won't change and improvements won't be made. In my opinion there really only has to be one stage w/ and w/o torque management maybe. But that's my personal opinion...give me the tune that runs the best and that's the only stage u need.

Are they going to change the tune structure to reflect that? I agree there really should only be the best safe tune with or without torque management on pump gas. Then maybe another tune if you are using racing fuel or something.
 
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darreli

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To the best of my knowledge the Stages are as follows (I'm sure Rick will jump in if I'm wrong) Stage 1 trans stuff only Stage 2-tuning with torque management on. Stage 3-tuning with torque management off Stage 4-"Race" tune without any torque management and preferred to use a little race fuel but I've been driving on it with 93 octane and beat on it and have had no issues.

I again apologize for even mentioning the "Stage 5". It was just testing different timing boost stuff but everything that worked was put together to be the current Stage 4 tune
 

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To the best of my knowledge the Stages are as follows (I'm sure Rick will jump in if I'm wrong) Stage 1 trans stuff only Stage 2-tuning with torque management on. Stage 3-tuning with torque management off Stage 4-"Race" tune without any torque management and preferred to use a little race fuel but I've been driving on it with 93 octane and beat on it and have had no issues.

I again apologize for even mentioning the "Stage 5". It was just testing different timing boost stuff but everything that worked was put together to be the current Stage 4 tune

The stage 1 has transmission modifications with reduced torque management

The stage 2 and 3 tunes are identical, except the stage 2 has torque management and the stage 3 does not.

The Stage 2 has raised boost, increased timing, and transmission modifications with reduced torque management.

The Stage 3 has raised boost, increased timing, and transmission modifications with no torque management.

The has 4 has more boost, more timing, and no torque management. Our tuner Dan said he would recommend higher octane with the stage 4, however Darreli and several others are running it daily with 93 octane and no issues.

Thank you,

Rick
 

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The stage 1 has transmission modifications with reduced torque management

The stage 2 and 3 tunes are identical, except the stage 2 has torque management and the stage 3 does not.

The Stage 2 has raised boost, increased timing, and transmission modifications with reduced torque management.

The Stage 3 has raised boost, increased timing, and transmission modifications with no torque management.

The has 4 has more boost, more timing, and no torque management. Our tuner Dan said he would recommend higher octane with the stage 4, however Darreli and several others are running it daily with 93 octane and no issues.

Thank you,

Rick

It looks like to me either the Stage 2 or Stage 3 would be the best to run on 93 octane. If Stage 3 should run on higher octane gas what's allowing it to run safely on 93?
 

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The Stage 3 is designed to run on 93 octane. Pretty sure that was developed with my car on the dyno with 93 octane. The Stage 4, Dan recommends running some higher octane mix for safety but ive been running it for months now in hot and cold weather with 93 octane without a single issue
 

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Great, I received my tune today (in a very timely matter0 but now there's the problem I've been fearing...computer says it can't open the files, and I have no idea how to get the files open. If anyone can walk me through this I would appreciate the help...I really have very little knowledge about working a computer and I'm feeling pretty frustrated at this moment.
 
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The Stage 4, Dan recommends running some higher octane mix for safety but ive been running it for months now in hot and cold weather with 93 octane without a single issue

Any ideas as to what the long term effects might be (if any), that you haven't seen yet, in only a few months? Carbon build up maybe?
 

darreli

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Carbon buildup will be a problem because of the DI not the tune. I personally don't see any long term problems engine related. Trans? Who knows
 

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Great, I received my tune today (in a very timely matter0 but now there's the problem I've been fearing...computer says it can't open the files, and I have no idea how to get the files open. If anyone can walk me through this I would appreciate the help...I really have very little knowledge about working a computer and I'm feeling pretty frustrated at this moment.

If you dont figure it out PM me. I can do a remote control on your computer and help you out.
 

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Thanks for the offers, my son helped me get the tune downloaded into the tuner and it was simple after that. Plugged the tuner into the car, followed the instructions and then took it out for a test drive. (I even went out on wet, dirty roads..something I don't like to do) and WOW, WOW, WOW!!!! The Stage 2 tune is a noticeable difference from stock. I was awed by the change...this really is how this car should be. I was able to break the tires loose from a rolling start (all 4) withOUT full throttle! Turbo lag has virtually been eliminated, and the car is much quicker in the first 3 gears (also faster in the upper gears). Shifts are firmer and seem quicker, without the bang of a racing trans. This seems to be an almost perfect tune for the street. I am very happy. I really am an idiot when it comes to using a computer for anything more the internet surfing but thanks to help from my son, everything worked fine. I called Rick at LMS just to thank him for his help and tell him how much I am wowed with the change of the car. I am glad I didn't wait longer, wish I would have got the tune sooner. Thanks everyone, it's all true Livernois Motorsports tune has improved this car, and if you are on the fence about getting one, don't be. Well worth the money, and the customer support was outstanding. This gets 2 thumbs up!
 
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glad to hear that it worked out for you mj.....Seems you had lots of help from son and peeps on here and got thru it ok. The tune seems to have made quite a diff.
I'm still considering one tho concerned with warranty issues once installed.
That extra power and such sure is beckoning tho......:)

C.
 
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