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SilverSH0

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Before I really start searching I figured I would start here to get input. My HVAC system doesn't appear to be operating correctly. When in single zone mode it operates as one would imagine. But when I put it in dual zone it does not appear to give any heat out the drivers side unless it's set all the way up at 90 degrees (the hottest setting). I set everything to manual (manual blower speed and manual temperature) for some quick testing while driving. My wife had her side (passenger side) set at 65 degrees and if felt about the right temperature. I kept increasing my temperature (drivers side) and notices when I got to 78 that it was the same temperature as her side. I could increase my temperature and it had no effect on the cold blowing air. It wasn't until I got it all the way to 90 degrees that it finally got hot (very hot). I turn it down one setting to 85 degrees and it was cold again.

I did another test on this also. I set my side at 80 degrees, wife's side at 65 degrees and everything was cold. Then I turned off dual zone and everything stayed as it was in dual zone (cold everywhere). Then I turned down the temperature 1 degree to 79 degrees and everything got hotter as it should.

Has anyone had a similar issue? I would think blend door (how many are there on this car?) but I'm not sure since it works fine in single zone mode. The only issue I have happens in dual zone control.
 

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Isn't Dual Zone front and rear, not side to side?
I thought it was side to side (since that's how every other car is). After going out and testing I think it is side to side control.

I put both zones on 65 and it blew cold air. I turned zone 1 temperature to 90 and driver's side blew hot while passenger's was cold. Turned both zones to 65 and it blew cold all around. Turned zone 2 temperature to 90 and passenger's side blew hot with driver's cold.

I also tested other scenarios because I was wondering if my issue is only for driver's side zone.

* Driver's side @ 85 and passenger's side @ 65 = cold everywhere
* Driver's side @ 65 and passenger's side @ 85 = cold everywhere

So it seems to operate the same regardless of which side is supposed to be hot.
 

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LOL, learn something new every day. I always assumed it was front-to-back dual zone. Checked the owner's manual (online) and sure enough, it's driver/passenger.

Sigh, sorry for butting in :)
 

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Dual Automatic Temperature Control (DATC) System
The HVAC system maintains the selected vehicle interior temperature by heating and/or cooling the air.

  • During A/C operation, the system also reduces the relative humidity of the air.
  • The driver may override the automatic mode of operation.
  • The temperature control setting determines the desired air temperature.
  • The blower motor control override button varies the blower motor speed.
  • The driver side and passenger side temperature settings can be individually controlled.
The HVAC system operation is determined by the settings on the climate controls. The HVAC system automatically maintains a selected temperature for vehicle interior comfort. To control the various functions, the HVAC system is composed of the following:

  • HVAC module
  • Front Controls Interface Module (FCIM)
  • Audio Front Control Module (ACM) or Front Display Interface Module (FDIM)
  • Blower motor speed control
  • Mode door actuator
  • Air inlet door actuator
  • Driver and passenger temperature blend door actuators
  • In-vehicle temperature sensor
  • Ambient temperature sensor
  • Solar radiation sensor
  • Evaporator temperature sensor
When the DATC system is set to AUTO:

  • the air distribution direction, blower motor speed and A/C compressor operation are automatically controlled based on the temperature(s) selected.
The DATC system manual override settings:

  • allow the air distribution direction to be manually selected.
  • allow the blower motor speed to be manually selected.
  • allow recirculation mode to be manually selected in all modes except DEFROST. The A/C request can be cancelled by pressing the A/C request switch, turning the indicator OFF.
  • allow A/C compressor operation to be manually selected except in DEFROST.

System Airflow Description — Dual Automatic Temperature Control (DATC)

AUTO

When AUTO is selected:

  • the temperature control setting is manually set to the desired setting.
  • the air inlet door actuator is automatically controlled by the HVAC module, based on the temperature setting.
  • the mode door actuators are automatically controlled by the HVAC module, based on the temperature setting.
  • the A/C compressor is automatically controlled by the HVAC module, based on the temperature setting. The A/C compressor will not operate if the outside temperature is below approximately 6°C (43°F).
  • the A/C request button or the RECIRC request button, if pressed, will transfer the system to semi-auto operation.
  • the blower motor is ON. The blower motor speed is automatically controlled by the HVAC module, based on the temperature setting, but can be manually overridden.
OFF

When OFF is selected:

  • the RECIRC request button is disabled.
  • the air inlet door actuator closes off outside air and admits only recirculated air.
  • the floor/defrost/panel door actuator is in the DEFROST position.
  • the A/C request button is disabled.
  • the blower motor is OFF.
PANEL

When PANEL is selected:

  • the RECIRC request button is enabled. If the RECIRC request button is selected (indicator ON), the air inlet door actuator closes off outside air from entering the passenger compartment. If the RECIRC request button is not selected (indicator OFF), the air inlet door actuator admits only outside air into the passenger compartment.
  • the floor/defrost/panel door directs airflow to the instrument panel A/C registers.
  • blended air temperature is available. Only when A/C compressor operation has been selected by pressing the A/C request button (indicator ON), can the airflow temperature be cooled below the outside air temperature.
  • the A/C request button is enabled. The A/C compressor will operate and the indicator will illuminate if the A/C request button is selected and the outside temperature is above approximately 6°C (43°F).
  • the blower motor is ON.
PANEL/FLOOR

When PANEL/FLOOR is selected:

  • the RECIRC request button is enabled. If the RECIRC request button is selected (indicator ON), the air inlet door actuator closes off outside air from entering the passenger compartment. If the RECIRC request button is not selected (indicator OFF), the air inlet door actuator admits only outside air into the passenger compartment.
  • the floor/defrost/panel door directs airflow to the floor duct and the instrument panel A/C registers. A small amount of airflow from the side window demisters and defrost duct will be present.
  • blended air temperature is available. Only when A/C compressor operation has been selected by pressing the A/C request button (indicator ON), can the airflow temperature be cooled below the outside air temperature.
  • the A/C request button is enabled. The A/C compressor will operate and the indicator will illuminate if the A/C request button is selected and the outside temperature is above approximately 6°C (43°F).
  • the blower motor is ON.
FLOOR

When FLOOR is selected:

  • the RECIRC request button is enabled. If the RECIRC request button is selected (indicator ON), the air inlet door actuator closes off outside air from entering the passenger compartment. If the RECIRC request button is not selected (indicator OFF), the air inlet door actuator admits only outside air into the passenger compartment.
  • the floor/defrost/panel door directs airflow to the floor duct. A small amount of airflow from the defroster duct and side window demisters will be present.
  • blended air temperature is available. Only when A/C compressor operation has been selected by pressing the A/C request button (indicator ON), can the airflow temperature be cooled below the outside air temperature.
  • the A/C request button is enabled. The A/C compressor will operate and the indicator will illuminate if the A/C request button is selected and the outside temperature is above approximately 6°C (43°F).
  • the blower motor is ON.
FLOOR/DEFROST

When the FLOOR/DEFROST is selected:

  • the RECIRC request button is enabled. If the RECIRC request button is selected (indicator ON), the air inlet door actuator closes off outside air from entering the passenger compartment. If the RECIRC request button is not selected (indicator OFF), the air inlet door actuator admits only outside air into the passenger compartment.
  • the floor/defrost/panel door directs airflow to the floor duct, the defroster duct and the side window demisters.
  • blended air temperature is available.
  • the A/C request button is enabled. The A/C compressor will operate automatically and the indicator will illuminate if the A/C request button is selected and the outside temperature is above approximately 6°C (43°F).
  • the blower motor is ON.
DEFROST

When DEFROST is selected:

  • the RECIRC request button and indicator is disabled. Regardless of button and indicator status, the air inlet door actuator admits only outside air into the passenger compartment.
  • the floor/defrost/panel door directs airflow to the defroster duct and side window demisters. A small amount of airflow from the floor duct will be present.
  • blended air temperature is available.
  • the A/C request button will indicate the last status and the indicator can be toggled. To reduce fogging, the A/C compressor will operate automatically, regardless of indicator status, if the outside temperature is above approximately 6°C (43°F).
  • the blower motor is ON.
 

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there are like 3 different blend doors in the system, and it sounds like your left/right blend door may be stuck in the middle position. that is much better than stuck on one side or the other, but it appears to limit you to "everyone gets the same temperature" settings.
 

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LOL, learn something new every day. I always assumed it was front-to-back dual zone. Checked the owner's manual (online) and sure enough, it's driver/passenger.

Sigh, sorry for butting in :)
All comments are good. I honestly didn't think about front/back and was kind of hoping that was the way it should operate. Alas, no go.
 

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there are like 3 different blend doors in the system, and it sounds like your left/right blend door may be stuck in the middle position. that is much better than stuck on one side or the other, but it appears to limit you to "everyone gets the same temperature" settings.
That's what I thought also. But it's odd because if I turn it up to 90 degrees on one side it splits the temperature accordingly. So 65 on drivers and 90 on passengers results in air about that temperature from each vent. 90 on drivers and 65 on passengers results in air about that temperature from each vent. But if I choose 65 and 85 (85 is 1 step down from 90), everyone gets 65 degrees. So the blend door is working, but only at the extremes.

From what I've read the blend door is controlled through the connector and then some resistors. I wonder if the resistor pack burned up so it's stuck in the middle (default position) unless it receives the full voltage at the extreme ranges (full voltage would be bypassing the resistors).
 

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No codes set?
 

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Connected the scanner and there were no codes. Pulled the battery, let sit for 20 minutes, reconnected battery, and everything works perfect.
 

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Until next time, then. Climate Control Modules do go out on the SHOs, hope yours lasts awhile without any funny business.
 

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