How to remove ATX

[DoC-JoneS]

i need a step by step list of things to disconnect/remove while dropping an ATX. i have new SFB's, motor mounts, & tranny cooler going in so they are all expendable. i know the basic stuff but exactly what is the easiest and best way to drop it. i've contacted a few of you guys on pm and that has helped alot i'd just like to get a better feel for the process. mikey, i hope oyu can help as i hear you're the man to talk to...

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Please use a Helms manual to do this properly! Borrow one if you have to. I could give you a step-by-step, and still miss something important. Basically, after removing the subframe and axles, and supporting the engine from above, you disconnect everything connected to the tranny: electrical, starter, shifter cable, speedo cable, torque converter, etc. Then you support the tranny on a tranny jack, and start removing all the bolts that attach it to the motor and to the power steering bracket. Separate it from the motor by about an inch and a half, and lower it out of the car.

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

this is what i do

TOP

1 disconnect battery
2 unplug MAF
3 remove intake duct work
4 remove air box
5 take 4 top bell housing bolts out
6 disconnect shifter linkage
7 disconnect main plug on top and MLP switch
8 un bolt the shifter bracket
9 Undo top O2 sensor in rear
10 Support engine

BOTTOM

1 Remove tires
2 undo balljoints
3 remove all mount bolts
4 unplug remaning 02 sensors
5 start removing y pipe
6 remove steering bolts
7 remove PS cooler from frame
8 drain fluid from transmission
9 start taking the sub frame bolts out
10 undo sway bar from frame
11 remove frame from car
12 jack the transmission up
13 remove the axles from transmission
14 unplug speed sensor and cable
15 unplug turbine sensor on driver side of transmission on chain cover
16 remove starter and dust cover
17 remove torque converter nuts
18 disconnect cooler lines
19 un bolt passenger side transmount bolts (2 13mm heads)
20 undo remaining bell housing bolts
21 pull transmission back 1-2" and lower.
GOOD LUCK

I am i transmission apprentice and do this every week at least 2 times
HEHE axod give a job

 

[DoC-JoneS]

is that in order?

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

yes it is thats what i find easer to do
i do it that way everytime i can pull one in 1.5 hours with a hoist and torches
for the exhuast and air tools. the only thing that may take time is the sub frame bolts.
As i am from Ontario Canada they rust fast.

 

[DoC-JoneS]

what did you use to support the engine? i'm going to need to lift the engine anyways to replace the MM's and the subframe bolts should be okay seeing as i can clearly see the head it's dirty but not rusted. besides alsfb's are about a day out os it's no biggie if the bushings get slaged, but i do need thoes bolts...

 

[Mr Anonymous]

A transverse engine support is used to properly support the engine from above. Some people use an engine hoist, but I'd never trust one while under the car removing a tranny.

 

[DoC-JoneS]

A transverse engine support is used to properly support the engine from above.

what is this beast and where do i acquire one...

 

[Mr Anonymous]

One of these:

Most auto parts chains should be able to order one. Some of the larger, independent stores with larger warehouses will usually have one or two in stock. A couple people have made their own using instructions from Scott Patterson or Josh Texiera.

 

[DoC-JoneS]

well so far so good mike i've unplugged almost every connector on the topside of the tranny to give me some more room and i've done everything topside accept for the shifter linkage, the 02 sensors and the supporting. would've done more but it's raining and the car is still outside...

Most auto parts chains should be able to order one. Some of the larger, independent stores with larger warehouses will usually have one or two in stock. A couple people have made their own using instructions from Scott Patterson or Josh Texiera.

how much does one of thoes bad boys run?

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

kool but you should have shelter i would not wantto get wet doin that
But looks like you havin fun
well at work we use the engine support with chains
never had a problem.
I would make a support from wood like scott did in his 91 when he did
his clutch.
Way cheaper and looks stronger

 

[DoC-JoneS]

this scott we're talking about is sdpatt on here right?

 

[DoC-JoneS]

okay everything is coming along nicely, but what mounts are you talking about? the motor mounts or the mounting bolts that come in on the drivers side that connect the tranny mount bracket to the tranny? and the steering bolts are these the fram to rack bolts or the tie rod end to knuckle bolts?

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

these are the rack to frame bolts
and undo alll mounts including the trans bracket
sorry for taking so long i was at work all day

 

[DoC-JoneS]

i need to make sure the engine and tranny are supported at this point correct?

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

ya i would do it before anything at bottom so its out of the way
sorry for the delay but my boy was a bugger today and had to hand wash the 93 and 91 for the first time( much nicer then car wash)

 

[DoC-JoneS]

okay how do we remove the cv axles this is just about to where we are dropping pan and removing cooling lines today. after i recieve the engine support we will be undoing the mounts and preparing to back out the tranny.

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

hey well you could take them out now but does not really matter. it would be easer to do after the frame is out.

 

[DoC-JoneS]

okay well we'll take them out after we drop the front subframe... how exactly do we pull them out? what needs to be unbolted on the front suspension?

here's what was accomplished today...
-starter removed
-pan dropped and drained
-tranny cooler removed, drained and cleaned
-front end dissassembled
-tranny lines disconnected
-motor mount nuts removed

tomorrow...
-dissconnect linkage
-remove linkage
-support engine and tranny
-drop front subframe

btw mike you are the f*in man for helping me with this ****. if you ever come down to Va. i'm taking you to a bar on me. or **********. or whatever.
mike

 

[the on going reality of shopower]

well you have to undo the ball joints from knuckle and they should have enough to swing out but try to get a pry bar to take them out of the trans.
they may be hard to pry on the floor. So don't get frustrated with it. take your time. You got a 95 ax4s trans in there???? you got the computer from the 95??