Help with decision on swap-out for 1991 SHO

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Peter Dujardin

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Hi everybody....I have a 1991 SHO Plus that has 191,000 miles and is heavily burning oil (about one quart every 200 miles). I also smell smoke in the car, particularly while I'm at a red light or driving slowly. I don't see too much smoke while driving, but it does smoke in the morning when I first start it up. The "check engine" light comes on sometimes, and then goes off again (and mostly stays off). There's also thick black deposit on the tail pipe. The car actually runs fairly well, despite whatever is going on, and I just got a new clutch put in that feels like butter......Over the past year or so, I've replaced, among things, the valve cover gasket, rear main seal (while they were in for the new clutch) and the oil pan gasket (also during clutch work). Also got the "oil cooler" filter replaced in a makeshift way (because the guy couldn't find the filter for it, so he jury-rigged another that seems to work). But the engine is still going through a lot of oil. I had my mechanic do a compression test, and he thought that the piston rings are leaking oil, while another suggested faulty valve stems could be the issue. I am thinking of calling it a car's life...I looked into the cost of rebuilding the engine, and was given a price involving 34 hours of labor, plus any machine shop costs. So that would likely set me back $3,000 or more, which is way too high for me. I also looked into the cost of an engine swap-out, which would set me back about $1,700. I found a used engine from a company called the Engine and Transmission Store for $620 delivered from Texas, with no core charge. They say that it is out of the car, in a warehouse, on a pallet, shrink-wrapped, ready to go. They say it has been inspected (compression-tested and had a "cylinder leak-down test.") They say it has 88,000 miles (not sure if I should trust that number with an engine that turns over at 100,000). It also comes with a one-year parts warranty. I found a guy who said he would install it for $800. So that's $1,420 plus the cost of the other parts that he would put in (a thermostat, new spark plugs, water pump, coolant, oil and filter). I was thinking of putting in the 3.2L SHO engine, but don't know if that would make much difference, and I kind of like the idea of having the original kind of engine in it....Also, does the 3.2L look the same as the 1991 3.0? The car has some other issues (interior of the car is bad, it needs a paint job, has an air bag issue with the module above the glove compartment, and needs air conditioner work, and a rear window doesn't work). But I am seriously thinking of going with this second "swap-out" option, rather than giving up the car. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Any tips? I don't think I ever got the 60,000 service on my current SHO, so should I ask the guy installing it to that, as well? (I saw a reference to replacing the shims). Anything else you would do while in there? Thanks for any thoughts you can provide!
 

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I would take the car to a reputable shop that has a history with these cars. If neither of your mechanic friends can tell you what is presently wrong, you need another alternative.
Since you can still drive it, that is do-able, Depending on where you live, it may be easier than you think.
Send out a request on this forum and see if anyone is available. There is not a shortage of 3.0 SHO engines, and most people that have a spare would not turn down a chance to move it.
 

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Yes, good point, Sperold. Anyone interested in this kind of work, please do let me know. I am in Newport News, Virginia, near Norfolk.
 

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Do you have another car to drive? I would either take up the cheaper offers locally or drive it up to PA and have a good SHO mechanic do the work.
 

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With the amount of money you are talking about, a first class shop will be able to help you find a solution. Even your "low cost" solution.
These cars have a very long learning curve for people not familiar with them, and you cannot afford to train them.
If you do need another engine, the specialty shop will most likely have a car on site that you can see and hear run, and have some sort of warranty on the engine.
If not, they will know where to find one.
And they will most likely be able to tell if you do need another engine (which is yet to be determined).
There are plenty of top people on this forum, some of which operate or work in shops, and some of which don't.
Snoop around and find the people who sell parts, have whole cars to part out, and who work on the cars and get some advice on how to diagnose the issue in advance.

I believe a member of this forum "devin" has a site that identifies shops that service these cars, try shopowered.com as a start, and remember, these are only the fully organized shops.
Area 91 "the PA SHO Shop" who's occupation is "eccentric nut" should be able to help you.
 
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There are other guys around that you can ask. Kevin is Richmond not sure if he does work for other people but he might be able to refer someone.
 

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