Help, Gasket set.

[96lt1]

hey guys. i have a guy that will make me a very good deal on labor to change my bad head gaskets and i want to have him do it. problem is the auto part stores want about $500 for a gasket set with all the stuff. i already have a set of valve cover gaskets laying around so i really dont wanna pay that much. i am told i need exhaust, intake, head, and valve cover to do it right. is this correct?? anyone know where i might find a better deal on parts?? anyone have parts they wanna get rid of?? any help would be greatly appreciated!!

thanx

Sean

 

[Yamaha V6]

Josh at SHO Nut is about $350 for the 3.0L Upper Gasket Set. Otherwise, IF they're still available individually, the 3.0L head gaskets went for $90 ea. at Ford last summer.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

The Ford full upper gasket set which includes 3.0L head gaskets is P/N E9DZ-6079-D and lists for $348.38 (FordPartsOnline.com shows it for $294.39). The individual HG's are p/n E9DZ-6051-A but are obsolete. Fel-Pro makes a head/upper gasket set p/n HS9821PT, which RockAuto.com lists at $368.74. Josh at SHO Nut has listed the upper gasket set with the 3.0L HG's in the past, but his site currently only lists the 3.2L set (which includes everything that the 3.0L set has except 3.2L HG's instead of 3.0L's). He gets $143.73 for the 3.2L set, which even though you can't use the HG's (unless you decide to do a 3.2L upgrade), it's a great price for the rest of the gaskets.

 

[96lt1]

thanx for the info. i looked on fordpartsnetwork.com and they had a whole rebuid gasket kit for around $95. i am assuming this is for the taurus slo engines am i correct?? if i have the valve cover gaskets and i buy the head gaskets for 90 each, how much would i have in the exhaust and intake??

 

[Mr Anonymous]

96lt1:
thanx for the info. i looked on fordpartsnetwork.com and they had a whole rebuid gasket kit for around $95. i am assuming this is for the taurus slo engines am i correct?? if i have the valve cover gaskets and i buy the head gaskets for 90 each, how much would i have in the exhaust and intake??

Probably about another $90-$100 to buy them individually. FWIW, the full gasket sets include things like injector seals and o-rings, cam seals, TB and IAC gaskets and several others which you should consider replacing due to the extent of the work you're doing. I'm guessing that gasket set you found on FPN was for the SLO based on the price. Their website should allow to select parts by motor. FWIW, FordPartsOnline.com uses the same Trade Motion front end for their websites as FPN and FPO has slightly better prices listed, although Torrie may be able to meet/beat most of them if you talk to him in person.

 

[96lt1]

ok, heres what i am gonna do. i can get the intake gasket off the net for $12. eshaust gaskets from autozone for $88. head gaskets for $105 from autozone. and i have the valve cover gaskets. my mechanic said he would do it for $300 in labor so i am gettin out for around 500 for the whole job. sound like a good deal or not??

 

[luigisho]

$300 for labor is very reasonable.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

If it were me, this is what I would do:

- SHO Nut 3.2L Upper Gasket Set: $143.73
- AutoZone Fel-Pro 9821PT HG's (2): $105.98

That's $249.71 + shipping, tax, etc. for gaskets, which includes every conceivable gasket you could need for only ~$44.00 more than you're planning to spend buying the gaskets piece-by-piece. You could then turn around and sell the 3.2L HG's and the extra valve cover gaskets (as well as any others you have left over) on eBay and probably recoup at least that $44.00, maybe more. I realize you already have the valve cover gaskets and would like to use those, but by buying the gaskets piecemeal you run the risk of not having a gasket which the mechanic ends up needing to complete the job.

Here's a list of the gaskets in Josh's 3.2L set, I've put a * next to the ones I would replace (at a minimum) when doing HG's:

butterfly (on secondary intake runner) to plenum (4)
primary intake runner to plenum (2)
throttle body to plenum
IAB/ISC (2)
*intake runner to head (2)
*spark plug tube (6)
thermostat ring
schrader valve top
schrader valve bottom
pressure regulator top
pressure regulator bottom
snubber top
snubber bottom
*LH valve cover
*RH valve cover
RH thermostat housing
LH thermostat housing
EGR/exhaust manifold (but not EGR/intake – available separately)
intake valve seal (12)
exhaust valve seal (12)
*exhaust manifold (2)
*injector to head (6)
*injector to rail o-ring (6)
*injector to rail gasket (6)
front cam seal (2)
upper cam cover gasket
cam seal (3)
water pump tube o-ring (2)
head gasket 3.2L (2)

I think just having the new spark plug tube seals makes the set worth it (it would be a shame to have the valve covers off and not replace them only to have the plug tubes start filling with oil right off the bat).

Another thing you might have to consider adding would be new head bolts (they are reusable, but you should double-check them before re-installing to make sure they're not stretched), which last I heard ran about $90 for a set.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Oh, and yes $300 is very good for labor, just try to get it in writing!

 

[96lt1]

SHOooo:
If it were me, this is what I would do:

- SHO Nut 3.2L Upper Gasket Set: $143.73
- AutoZone Fel-Pro 9821PT HG's (2): $105.98

That's $249.71 + shipping, tax, etc. for gaskets, which includes every conceivable gasket you could need for only ~$44.00 more than you're planning to spend buying the gaskets piece-by-piece. You could then turn around and sell the 3.2L HG's and the extra valve cover gaskets (as well as any others you have left over) on eBay and probably recoup at least that $44.00, maybe more. I realize you already have the valve cover gaskets and would like to use those, but by buying the gaskets piecemeal you run the risk of not having a gasket which the mechanic ends up needing to complete the job.

Here's a list of the gaskets in Josh's 3.2L set, I've put a * next to the ones I would replace (at a minimum) when doing HG's:

butterfly (on secondary intake runner) to plenum (4)
primary intake runner to plenum (2)
throttle body to plenum
IAB/ISC (2)
*intake runner to head (2)
*spark plug tube (6)
thermostat ring
schrader valve top
schrader valve bottom
pressure regulator top
pressure regulator bottom
snubber top
snubber bottom
*LH valve cover
*RH valve cover
RH thermostat housing
LH thermostat housing
EGR/exhaust manifold (but not EGR/intake – available separately)
intake valve seal (12)
exhaust valve seal (12)
*exhaust manifold (2)
*injector to head (6)
*injector to rail o-ring (6)
*injector to rail gasket (6)
front cam seal (2)
upper cam cover gasket
cam seal (3)
water pump tube o-ring (2)
head gasket 3.2L (2)

I think just having the new spark plug tube seals makes the set worth it (it would be a shame to have the valve covers off and not replace them only to have the plug tubes start filling with oil right off the bat).

Another thing you might have to consider adding would be new head bolts (they are reusable, but you should double-check them before re-installing to make sure they're not stretched), which last I heard ran about $90 for a set.

sounds good, i think ill go with the shonut kit and the autozone gaskets like u said. all that other stuff though, how much will all that run??

 

[96lt1]

SHOooo:
Oh, and yes $300 is very good for labor, just try to get it in writing!

this guys a good friend of mine and he runs his own shop. he has hooked me up before like this. if i pay him in cash he doesnt even charge me tax.

 

[96lt1]

SHOooo:
If it were me, this is what I would do:

- SHO Nut 3.2L Upper Gasket Set: $143.73
- AutoZone Fel-Pro 9821PT HG's (2): $105.98

That's $249.71 + shipping, tax, etc. for gaskets, which includes every conceivable gasket you could need for only ~$44.00 more than you're planning to spend buying the gaskets piece-by-piece. You could then turn around and sell the 3.2L HG's and the extra valve cover gaskets (as well as any others you have left over) on eBay and probably recoup at least that $44.00, maybe more. I realize you already have the valve cover gaskets and would like to use those, but by buying the gaskets piecemeal you run the risk of not having a gasket which the mechanic ends up needing to complete the job.

Here's a list of the gaskets in Josh's 3.2L set, I've put a * next to the ones I would replace (at a minimum) when doing HG's:

butterfly (on secondary intake runner) to plenum (4)
primary intake runner to plenum (2)
throttle body to plenum
IAB/ISC (2)
*intake runner to head (2)
*spark plug tube (6)
thermostat ring
schrader valve top
schrader valve bottom
pressure regulator top
pressure regulator bottom
snubber top
snubber bottom
*LH valve cover
*RH valve cover
RH thermostat housing
LH thermostat housing
EGR/exhaust manifold (but not EGR/intake – available separately)
intake valve seal (12)
exhaust valve seal (12)
*exhaust manifold (2)
*injector to head (6)
*injector to rail o-ring (6)
*injector to rail gasket (6)
front cam seal (2)
upper cam cover gasket
cam seal (3)
water pump tube o-ring (2)
head gasket 3.2L (2)

I think just having the new spark plug tube seals makes the set worth it (it would be a shame to have the valve covers off and not replace them only to have the plug tubes start filling with oil right off the bat).

Another thing you might have to consider adding would be new head bolts (they are reusable, but you should double-check them before re-installing to make sure they're not stretched), which last I heard ran about $90 for a set.

whoops, guess i should read closer. u say that all these gaskets come in that set. do i just go to shonut.com to get this stuff?? looks like more work than i wanted to get into but ill have a nice motor when i am done. btw, money is tight so it looks like i am doin this stuff myself. wish me luck!

 

[Mr Anonymous]

96lt1:
sounds good, i think ill go with the shonut kit and the autozone gaskets like u said. all that other stuff though, how much will all that run??

Huh? All of the gaskets in that list are included in Josh's $143.73 upper gasket set. http://www.shonutperformance.com/Gaskets.htm 7th item on the list. If you're asking how much in extra labor, it shouldn't be that much if any -- the parts removed & reinstalled during a HG job are all accessed during the work.

 

[96lt1]

great. thanx for all the help