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MaDDaDDaM

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Ok....I bought two new half-shafts from Raxles and am going to put them in this weekend. I've got a 30mm socket, slide hammer, etc. Are there any stupid little parts, bolts, nuts, whatever, that will need to get as well to do the job. I don't want to get my axle completely off and find I don't have what I need to put it back together again. Thanks, Addam.
 

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I pulled my old ones out last night... lets see if I can remember what tools I used:

* flat bar (to pry on drivers side inner CV in order to remove from tranny case)
* 13mm socket and ratchet
* 30mm deep socket
* impact gun
* small punch &
* 18 oz framing hammer :p (to tap the outer CVs out of the wheel bearings)

Luckely I had the inpact gun. I had the entire front suspension torn apart before I realized that i had to remove the hub nut to remove the axles rant The impact gun made quick work of that.

If you do not have an impact gun, I would recommend loosening or even removing the hub nuts with the tires on the car, and the car on the ground. IIRC, the hub nuts are torqued 95 - 105 lb ft.
 

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I put a thick flat head screw driver between my brake caliper and the caliper bracket(into the vented part of the rotor) to hold it while I loosened the bolts. You will need new control arm pinch bolts and nuts and if you detach the tie rod ends from the knuckle you will need new cotter pins too...
 

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NotSoSlowSHO:

If you do not have an impact gun, I would recommend loosening or even removing the hub nuts with the tires on the car, and the car on the ground. IIRC, the hub nuts are torqued 95 - 105 lb ft.
You should hope that the axle nuts were torqued between 180-205 lb ft. Lug nuts are in the 95 lb ft range......

<small>[ January 14, 2004, 09:20 AM: Message edited by: fricker66 ]</small>
 

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As stated above, you'll need new control arm pinch bolts and nuts, new tie rod end castle nuts and pins (if you remove them), new strut pinch bolts (if you remove them), new axle nuts (I believe are supplied by RAxles).

Other than that, its rather straight forward and simple.
 

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MaDDaDDaM,

If you are replacing the outer CV joint and boots you do not have to pull the axels out of the trans. It is a little more difficult to do it this way, but then you do not have to deal with the trans fluid mess.

Warning: DO NOT PULL BOTH AXELS OUT OF THE TRANS AT THE SAME TIME. DO ONE AT A TIME so that at least one axel is in the trans at all times.

If you are interested I'll post the "how to".

You will need the crimping tool used to crimp the band that holds the boot to the joint. As stated above you will need NEW pinch bolts and new pinch bolt nuts for the steering knuckle to ball joint connection (torque 40 to 55 ft lbs).

Then you will need new axel nuts, These nuts, ie pinch bolt and axel nuts, are "lock" type nuts and are good for one use only.

I would plan on replacing the tie-rod end nuts (torque 23 to 25 ft lbs.) and cotter pins, or at the very least the cotter pins. It is a safety issue and VERY cheap insurance ($0.20 if that)

If you decide to pull the axels you should get new axel seals for the trans (where the axels go into the trans). If there is any sign of these seals leaking, then it would be a good idea to pull the axels and replace them. There is a tool used to pry the seals out but you can do a search and use SDPATT's method!

I find it easier to push the lower control arm down, in order to get the ball joint out of the steering knuckle, with a small bottle jack.

I put the top of the jack against the lip of the inner fender well, and the bottom of the jack against the lower control arm where it is connected to the strut (stablizer bar). Protect the surfaces with a small piece of wood.

I find this a lot easier than using a pry bar to pry down on the lower control arm.

The new half shafts should have a new "cir-clip" for the outer CV joint. If it does not get new ones. This is another fastener that should never be reused.

DO NOT distort it putting it on the axel. It is "spring" steel and will be flexible enough to get on the axel and into its groove, but do not over-stretch it.

When you go to remove the outer joint, after cutting away the old boot, push the CV joint in as far as it will go (not very far). Then gently pull out on it until you feel it stop against the circlip.

Set a block of wood against the back edge of the CV joint (this will distribute the force evenly)while holding the joint straight in line with the axel, and SMACK IT WITH A HAMMER.

It helps a whole lot to have someone else hold the axel while you hold the CV joint, wood, and hammer. Do you have a lovely assistant? :D

This should "pop" the CV joint over the "cir-clip" and off of the axel. If you have never done this before it may take a couple of tries.

The guys above have you pretty well covered, but I thought a little more might help if this is your first time doing this.
If I think of anything else that might help I'll post it. rangerj
 

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MaDDaDDam,

OOPS, I missed the "halfshaft", and thought you bought CV joint ends. Never mind the stuff about getting the CV joints off of the old axels.
Sorry, about that.
Ad caveat emptor! rangerj Ave Ceasar.
 

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You'll definitely need:
-a good hammer (I've never worked on my car without needing one for something or another.. :D )
-NEW pinch bolts/ nuts
-NEW axle nuts
-Big crowbar
-some patience
-something to lift the car with (if you can get it up to chest level it's better)

I don't know why everyone says to take the tie rod ends off. With some careful prying (an assistant helps) you can loosen the hub nut (Axle nut) and just pull the hub/ rotor away from the tranny and push the axle through. Then it's fairly easy to pull the axle from the tranny.

Just be careful- this (Actually taking the axle out for a cv joint boot change) was my first auto work of any kind. I ended up ripping the boot on the lower control arm, and had to replace the entire arm. Line the splines up good, too, or you can mess stuff up when you put them back together.
Good luck!
 

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rangerj:
Warning: DO NOT PULL BOTH AXELS OUT OF THE TRANS AT THE SAME TIME. DO ONE AT A TIME so that at least one axel is in the trans at all times.
Why?

They both come out during a clutch job, so I'm confused as to what this is about. There's shafts in the diff to hold the gears in place when the axles are removed. I've read about this elsewhere, but it doesn't seem to make me care. shrug Is there a reason behind that? :confused:
 

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TYSHO:
rangerj:
Warning: DO NOT PULL BOTH AXELS OUT OF THE TRANS AT THE SAME TIME. DO ONE AT A TIME so that at least one axel is in the trans at all times.
Why?

Is there a reason behind that? :confused:
This is a common misconception for the SHO's MTX, one that I myself had held. It was a carryover from most other manual trannies and was due, in my case, to an overabundance of caution.

You are correct in that the diff side gears in the SHO's MTX will NOT migrate on their own if you have both axle shafts pulled at the same time.

A plug won't hurt, but is not needed.

Steve

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In addition to the tools mentioned above, I have found that a 3-4 foot length of 2"x4" lumber is a very helpful tool to lever the lower control arm away from the knuckle. With the available leverage, this device makes it a trivial effort to separate the LCA from the knuckle once the ball joint has been cleared. I even use the board's free and as a seat so that my body weight can do the work while my hands have business on the knuckle and strut.

You will want to make hangers for the brake calipers so that they can be removed and hung aganist the interior of the wheel well. You will also want to remove the 10mm bolt to allow the ABS sensor to be moved out of the way. These parts are removed from the knuckle to prevent damage to the hoses and wiring once the tie rod, sway bar link and strut are removed from the knuckle.

If you are removing the sway bar link from the strut, you will need a deep 18mm socket.
 

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Steve, TYSHO,

"The book" calls for a special tool to be inserted in to the trans when the axels are pulled (both). You are right that the "age old" reason for this is to preevent the migration of any of the trans' inards.

I recommend not pilling both axels at the same time for a couple of reasons. 1. just in case the book is right, (error on the side of caution, but the reality is that old habits die hard) and;

2. so the less experienced has a side that is intact for a referrence (eg does the pinch bolt nut go on the front side or the back side? Look at the side that is still together!). This is the more important reason I made the recommendation.

And you are both right. I have not seen any instances of the trans gears dropping out of place when both axels are removed. My first incounter with a front wheel drive transaxel was in a 1937 Cord. Steve, you can think it, but don't say it! :D lol

The interesting thing is that the manufacturers keep putting the requirement for a plug in the Shop Manuals. It's in my 2002 Taurus/Sable Shop Manual. Go figure! rangerj
 

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sdpatt:

You will want to make hangers for the brake calipers so that they can be removed and hung aganist the interior of the wheel well.
ratchet straps attatched to the strut towers work GREAT! click, click, click, click... and out of the way thumb
 

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Hey guys, I just wanted to shout out a great big THANK YOU! to Ranger J, and everyone else who helped me with "tech support". My old half-shafts came out without too much trouble and the new Raxles slid in fine. I highly recommend them. Also, all of a sudden this vibration I got at 85 mph and thought was tires unbalanced, was actually my bad right half-shaft! I had no idea it could do that. So consequenty I cruised the hour long drive back home on I-71 N at about 100, and got a nice phat ticket to go with it. Oh well, small town cop and only $56 with court costs!

But hey...thanks again to all who helped! Addam
 
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