Getting bit by the GenIII bug....

[SHO2NV]

I've really been digging them lately. I really like the Silver ones and I ran across this one near me:

good deal?

Only thing is, I would want to unload my car first. Also, is there anything other than the cam problem that I need to know about?

 

[SHOZ123]

Trannys and TCs suck in OEM form.

 

[stephen newberg]

An then there are some of us that have never had a problem with the transmission or the TC, or the cams for that matter.

pax, smn

 

[SHOZ123]

Never is a long time and a word I try to avoid using. wink

 

[Osiris]

Nontheless, it's true.

My car hasn't experienced any such problem.

( knocking furiously on wood )

 

[wdnitro]

I'd like to add the note also. I've had my GenIII for about a year now and no problems. Got it with 32K and now about to hit 60K. Not one hitch. " Knock on Wood". But you can say this about any car. Your always going to have the exceptions and mechanical failures but looking at the big picture what cars are perfect. Yes the cam issue is in the back of my mind, but look at the odds so far. Keep up the maintanance and enjoy the car. Since we SHO drivers probably drive a little HARDER and a little FASTER why is everyone surprised when they break shit. shrug I have said this to my friends and I'm going to say it again. This car is like no other and I'm redlining it at least once a day. That's why I got this car. I like to call it the "Family Sportster".

 

[SHOZ123]

Yes the cam issue is in the back of my mind, but look at the odds so far.

What are the odds? I would guess that the ones posted on V8SHO.com aren't more than 10% of the total actual cam failures.

 

[wdnitro]

What are the production numbers for 96-99 SHOs? V8SHO has incomplete data. Anyone else have numbers? Let's say that only 10% of the failures have found V8SHO. That would come up to about 2000 failures out of 20000 SHOs(if you crunch the numbers right) . So you've got a 1 in 10 chance of Cam failure. Right? shrug

 

[MilTownSHO]

SHOZ123:
Trannys and TCs suck in OEM form.

What does TC stand for?

 

[Osiris]

TC = Torque Converter.


Our mean, sporty, innovative and state of the art SHOs sport the same trannies as base Tauri.

Kinda like having Michael Jordan play basketball in combat boots and oven mits.

I'll add something else, tomorrow the SVTF goes back to mother Ford for new fog lights and a diagnostic of the engine. I'm going through about a QT of oil in 1500 miles and my SHO gets better gas mileage. It's got 5200 miles on it.

So when I get the rental Focus, or Cavalier or whatever POS they force me into home I can leave it put and drive the SHO some more.

Thanks Ford!

 

[Bob Gervais]

PrplSHO:
TC = Torque Converter.


Our mean, sporty, innovative and state of the art SHOs sport the same trannies as base Tauri.

My 97 SLO Vulcan has the AX4S, I thought the SHO's had the AX4N? Not sure of the difference, and I'm no tranny specialist, but that's what I've heard.

 

[stephen newberg]

'Never' is not the same thing as 'have never'. It is, or course, possible that my TC could die tomorrow. Or, I could sell the car ten years down the road never having had any transmission problems at all. I do not know which way it will go, but like WDNITRO, I think it is very easy to complain too much about these cars. In general a sports sedan will get driven like one, and that means hard. Any car driven hard will have more things go wrong than cars that are driven gently or even normally.

As per the number of cars that have actually had the cam poblem, the documented number is under 200 at this point in time. It is very possible that more than that have, and it is even possible that it might be 10 times that number, but there is -no- proof of that, just guesses. At the moment the documented failure rate of the cam sprocket is less than 1%.

And, as Bob noted, no, the various other Taurus models do not have the same transmission as the SHO. The AX4N, from what I have read, has major differences from the AX4S.

pax, smn

 

[wdnitro]

Thanks for backing me up there Steven, thought I might be stepping on some toes with that comment. beer

 

[Osiris]

My apologies. I always thought they were the same, sucky. shrug

 

[SHOZ123]

I think you will find that Ford used whatever tranny was available at the moment on the Gen 3 SLOs. Some have AX4Ns and some have the AX4Ss.

The TCs on these cars are a very big POS.

 

[SHODWN]

Not just BIG but Humoungous!

There are different versions of the 4N, the SHO has a different Converter (higher Stall) more clutches and different accumulator pistons.

John, If you are interested - I will have a 96 Silver Frost for sale in a few weeks.

 

[SHO2NV]

SHODWN:
John, If you are interested - I will have a 96 Silver Frost for sale in a few weeks.

Keep me posted Kirk.

 

[SCOTTDW]

Hi Kirk, will the 96 have cams done by you etc.? Can you let me know about this 96?

Thanks,

Scott
98SF
Magnaflows 3"tips
BFGoodrich KDWS
stolen and totaled Oct '02

 

[SHODWN]

Sure will.

The car will be welded, new plugs, wireing harness thermal protected, coils rotated, all of the intake cleaned, the IRM will be removed and dunked for removal of carbon deposits. All the goddies that I do for every car that comes into my tiny shop, and best of all who know my love for the car be treated and serviced like its my own

Mods, this car is not for sale yet so please leave this up. I will pay to list it when completed and ready to go.

Thanks!

Randy Cadell could also give you input on the cars that I save, rebuild (motor wise) and resell.

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