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It didn't take her long to send my my quaif'd transmission, but getting my core money back has taken more than 2 months. I still haven't gotten it back, that's why I'm writing this. I've sent her 2 *** within the last 3 days and she has not responded to either. I'm 17 years old, and money doesn't come very easy for me, so I need my money back NOW!
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Well, I'm sorry to hear that you're so disappointed. Especially so in that the actual service you received, IMO, was outstanding but you didn't mention that for some reason. You don't mention anything about the fact that I sent one money order out already but you said you didn't receive it. You PM'd me on 5/2/06 asking if I'd sent the core money refund so it wasn't until that day that I even had a clue that you hadn't gotten it. That to me is disappointing as it's not painting a clear and fair picture.

As a note of interest, and I'm NOT calling you a liar by any means, but the company that issued the money order says that the money order has been cashed. I'm still working with them to get the money back and they will more than likely be contacting you so you can tell them yourself that you are not the one who received the money order and cashed it.

You didn't mention that you had the core for over a month before shipping it back to me. You received the trans I installed the quaife in on 3/6/06 but didn't ship the core back to me until 4/11/06. I lost business because I had no core. But I didn't complain, I was just glad to finally receive it.

I would also like people to know, since this is all public and stuff, that the core refund (which you also didn't clarify about) after the parts needed to rebuild the trans and the shipping home to you is a whole $21.63.

Now I realize that you're young and money isn't easy to come by and yes, I should have gotten a replacement money order for you sooner and for that I am in the wrong and I apologize. But overall I feel like you've painted a very unfair picture here. I'm not a scam artist....never have been, never will be. You will get your $21.63 and I'll even try to make it up by sending a couple of extra axle seals for whenever you might need them. Fair enough?
 

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Did it really cost $230 to replace worn out parts in the trans? Shipping through DHL was about $50 with $1200 in insurance. I also don't think I should have had to pay for shipping for both of the transmissions. I had no idea how much the refund was for, because you never told me. I have not recieved a money order, so it's impossible that it's been cashed.
I pm'd you Thursday and today giving you my Paypal address with no response, but get the money order thing sorted out first. You could have responded to either of those letting me know what was up.
Your service was great and I've had no problems with the trans, I just find it hard to believe that out of $300 there is only $20 left.
I also realize that it took me a while to send you my trans and that was obviously my fault. I'm just frusterated because I spent close to $2K on a quaife'd trans that I'm still trying to get money back on. Please clear these things up for me.
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Mac said:
Did it really cost $230 to replace worn out parts in the trans? Shipping through DHL was about $50 with $1200 in insurance. I also don't think I should have had to pay for shipping for both of the transmissions. I had no idea how much the refund was for, because you never told me.

If your trans had been good and you were to have shipped me your trans to rebuild and install a quaife in it would you actually expect me to pay shipping to get it back to you? That's not how things work. People send me their transmissions from all over the country, not once have I ever paid shipping either way. Why didn't you inquire about this from the beginning?

In regards to parts costs....the following is from our PM's.

This first PM dated 1/21/06 is where we were discussing my labor rate, possible extra cost for parts and shipping. You may recall that you sent 2 checks, one was for my labor rate, the other one was a "core" charge but was also dog-eared for extra parts expense.


Mac said:
Should Ijust take my trans to a UPS store? I've never shipped something that big before. 2 checks is fine with me. Then if you need to replace worn out parts, you can cash the $300 and use what you need.

And PM dated 3/2/06 where I told you exactly what the costs of the extra parts were.

Bizzy said:
Costs on the above:
Outputshaft rear - $77.16
Countershaft bearings (for 2) - $31.05
5th synchro - $72.92
5th blocking ring - $30

I've gotten shipping quotes from both UPS and DHL. UPS quotes $90.83 with a weight of 110# and a value of $1500, delivery day of Tuesday. DHL quoted $67.24 with the same weight and value and Monday as the delivery day. So, the choice is yours.

And your response back to me......

Mac said:
Ok, I will definately go with DHL because it is MUCH cheaper. How many quaifes have you installed? That didn't seem to take very long.

How do I arrange the shipping for the return of my core trans? I usually drop stuff off at the Post Office, but I'm sure a transmission is too big.

Mac said:
I have not recieved a money order, so it's impossible that it's been cashed.

All I know is what they told me. It's not impossible, it happens all the time. Don't believe me? Call any company who sells money orders and ask them just how often it happens.

Mac said:
I pm'd you Thursday and today giving you my Paypal address with no response, but get the money order thing sorted out first. You could have responded to either of those letting me know what was up.

I hadn't read any of my *** until tonight. I just got done reading the first PM with the Paypal info in it. I'm still playing catch up from taking a few days off from the forum. You told me before when I offered to Paypal it to you before that you didn't have a Payal account. It looks like this account has been open for several years, I wish you would have provided this info to me before.

Mac said:
Bizzy said:
It's too bad you don't have paypal, I could send you instant funds in the event it didn't arrive for whatever reason.

In any case, keep me posted. Glad you like the quaife, it's worth it's weight in gold.

Yeah, I haven't seen the money order, but whenever you get the chance, not a big deal. I wish I had Paypal but since I'm under 18-no credit card :nut:.

:shrug:

Mac said:
Your service was great and I've had no problems with the trans, I just find it hard to believe that out of $300 there is only $20 left.

I told you up front what my labor rate was, I also told you up front that extra costs for parts could be involved. I informed you of and you cleared shipping costs. I gave you options on which service you wanted me to use. I sent you a free VSS as well, granted it was used, but free none-the-less. I did this because you told me you couldn't afford one so I threw it in because I appreciated your business.

Mac said:
I also realize that it took me a while to send you my trans and that was obviously my fault. I'm just frusterated because I spent close to $2K on a quaife'd trans that I'm still trying to get money back on. Please clear these things up for me.
Mike

Again, I wasn't complaining about the core not being returned in a more timely fashion, I was glad to have finally received it.

I told you I would get the core money back to you and I did just so. You really should feel pretty good about what you spent. I spent close to $2400 on the trans from my 91 when I installed the quaife in it and I didn't even have to pay for labor because I did it myself. For a quaife install that you don't install yourself the price you paid was well below the norm IMO, that's just reality kiddo.

In any case, the balance of the core charge has been refunded as of 2:59 a.m. 6/4/06 using the paypal info you provided.
 

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wow. poor beth gets it coming and going. why you still do this is beyond me. but i'm glad you do!

Quit Harping on beth she is one of the kindest, giving, and loving persons i have come across. she will help you in anyway to sort out your problem. seems to me you just didn't want to pay what it truly cost to fix one of these transmissions. she's top notch if you ask me.
 

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Mac said:
I'm just frusterated because I spent close to $2K on a quaife'd trans that I'm still trying to get money back on. Please clear these things up for me.
Mike

That's a good price for a professional rebuild and Quaife install, and Beth's definitely professional at this stuff. I've watched her work and she did an MTX freshening/rebuild for me.

Sounds like she's taken good care of you here.
 

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You are whining about paying $2,000 for a refeshed tranny with a Quaife? That's a steal, My receipt from getting a Quaife,all new bearings, and seals in my cars tranny says $2,744.32. Bizzy is as fair and honest of a person you'll find, not to mention this is basically Bizzy's forum. I don't see why you find it neccessary to attack her outside of PM's, Where's she gonna go?
 

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ohioshodude said:
wow. poor beth gets it coming and going. why you still do this is beyond me. but i'm glad you do!

Quit Harping on beth she is one of the kindest, giving, and loving persons i have come across. she will help you in anyway to sort out your problem. seems to me you just didn't want to pay what it truly cost to fix one of these transmissions. she's top notch if you ask me.

Amen Brother! :hail:
 

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ohioshodude said:
seems to me you just didn't want to pay what it truly cost to fix one of these transmissions.

Yeah, not only that, but you're lucky it wasn't more. And if those parts were brand new, you really lucked out!

The internal parts for the MTX are NOT cheap and will cost you some money, here's an example of synchronizers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8053459494&category=33733

So, for $2k spent total on a rebuilt and quaife installed transmission, that is as good as it gets when you have someone experienced installing the parts!
 

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TYSHO said:
Yeah, not only that, but you're lucky it wasn't more. And if those parts were brand new, you really lucked out!

The internal parts for the MTX are NOT cheap and will cost you some money, here's an example of synchronizers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8053459494&category=33733

So, for $2k spent total on a rebuilt and quaife installed transmission, that is as good as it gets when you have someone experienced installing the parts!

He didn't spend $2k, but close to it from what he said. That would also include the costs for shipping the trans to him and the core back to me. I posted how much I paid to ship it to him so you can figure that double that amount is what it cost total for shipping.

All the parts that were installed in his trans were new and were at the same cost that I personally paid for them when I bought them new. I don't add more money to the costs of parts, I don't even add anything extra for shipping that it cost me to bring the parts in to me. I make my money from what I charge for labor. My labor rate is very fair in my opinion. I could charge more but in all honesty I'd rather charge less and see more cars stay on the road. Maybe I should start caring less in the future.
 

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It doesn't matter who's forum it is, if i feel there is something wrong, i'm going to say it. I tried talking to her outside of PM's but like i said, she didn't respond. I'm not "whining" about the overall price, but thanks for putting in your two cents where it wasn't needed. That's my dad's paypal account and i was not aware that it existed. Do you really think I would go through all the trouble of sending money orders if i could just paypal?
 

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It doesn't matter who's forum it is, if i feel there is something wrong, i'm going to say it.

I think his point in saying that was that I'm not going anywhere since this is my forum.

And by all means say it, that's what this section is all about. Whether it be about me or anyone else. I am not biased. And this post proves that because it is about me. I didn't have to approve the post doncha know. :p
 

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Agreed.

And I also sense a mis-communication between parties, which can very easily happen. I do hope though, that in posting this, Mac has seen the stand-up person he's been dealing with regarding this tranny and take that information into consideration for future dealings with ANYONE :thumb:
 

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Mac said:
It doesn't matter who's forum it is, if i feel there is something wrong, i'm going to say it. I tried talking to her outside of PM's but like i said, she didn't respond. I'm not "whining" about the overall price, but thanks for putting in your two cents where it wasn't needed. That's my dad's paypal account and i was not aware that it existed. Do you really think I would go through all the trouble of sending money orders if i could just paypal?

Huh? Read it again. It was a question not an insult:shrug:
 

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PROPHET said:
Beth, please ship him some tissues for these issues.

Thanks for contributing to this thread :slap:

I knew that this was moderated, so that says a lot about Beth that she hasn't stopped any of my posts from going through. I've learned a lot from this- ship my own transmission first so that I know what kind of condition it is in, and use Paypal-it is a godsend. I just wish you would have responded to the *** quicker.
 

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Mac said:
It doesn't matter who's forum it is, if i feel there is something wrong, i'm going to say it. I tried talking to her outside of PM's but like i said, she didn't respond.

I just wish you would have responded to the *** quicker.

I dunno how long the other *** took, but the ones you talked about happened over 2 days. 2 days isn't a long time, if it was 2 weeks, ok you got a point, but I think you're over-reacting and not being reasonable if you're complaining about 2 days.
 

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I dunno how long the other *** took, but the ones you talked about happened over 2 days. 2 days isn't a long time, if it was 2 weeks, ok you got a point, but I think you're over-reacting and not being reasonable if you're complaining about 2 days.

Agreed
 

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I sent one June 1st- that's more than 2 days. It's the fact that 2 months is waaaaay too long. Like I said, I wish I would've known about the Paypal account I could use because this would have gone much faster.
 
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