Engine braking???

[GT Rosema]

I was playing a little with the paddle shifters and downshifting does not slow the car down.
Is this normal or is it something I need to look into?
I was wanting to run with some Mustangs in the NC mountains, but with no engine braking to speak of it might be ******* the brakes.

 

[xFallenxCripplex]

I don't worry about changing pads they are so easy to change.
Engine breaking on my car works pretty well as long as your not have much more extra weight.
No it's not the same as true manual but pretty close.

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[Johnbigdog]

Depending on the situation, the engine has to be revved to get significant engine braking. 3rd and 2nd gear are good gears for engine assistance depending on speed/grade. Being in S mode will also help over Drive (D) in some gears such as first and second. I've never experienced heavy engine braking above 3rd gear.

Brakes may be easy to replace, however fade is a real thing. Depending on the grade and distance, the brake pedal may not be a good choice. Plus, with engine braking down hill, you can use cruise control in S mode with the paddle shifters.

 

[SM105K]

Even with the upgraded rotors and pads, I found the limit to the stock brakes with incredible fade. The crazy thing was, the brakes were there in one corner, and literally gone the next one........

 

[yaycandy]

Even with the upgraded rotors and pads, I found the limit to the stock brakes with incredible fade. The crazy thing was, the brakes were there in one corner, and literally gone the next one........

Dude i noticed that too. I tried to figure out what was causing it because i knew the brakes couldnt of gotten that hot quickly, then again it 4500lbs lol. I replaced the brake hoses with braided stainless ones and i havent had that issue since. I think it may be in the line pressure expanding the hose from heat. But now i have drilled and slotted rotors and good pads also. Braided brake hose was pretty cheap. Around 150$ or less i think. Ill find a link

I learned that from autocross with my miatas. Braided metal brake line is the best thing for brake fade. The sho has huge brakes and good pads as it is but the cheap rubber hose aint gunna cut it braking into a hairpin from 120mph. I learned that the hard way with my sho at Pitt Race. They dont slow up like they do in video games lol

 

[yaycandy]

Dang i was pretty close with price remembering

https://www.carid.com/goodridge/g-stop-brake-line-kit-mpn-12348.html?singleid=164901472&url=3325435

 

[SM105K]

I will look into that. I was thinking the fluid was boiling in the caliper. So...

However the same thing happened to my ST this weekend...brakes...then nothing. I was hammering the car because I got the tune to load finally.

 

[yaycandy]

Yea start with the braided brake lines and go from there. I put them on all of my cars actually. Even my trucks and daily drivers. Its nice to be towing and hold the brakes and pressure always stays. I think rubber brake hose is too stretchy on the sho. pp and no pp i think the hoses are the same. Lots of little things and overlooked things on cars can make the biggest differences

 

[Eric Morris]

For preventing fade, break ducting is by far the most effective approach, but it's such a PITA to install scoops, hoses and construct/secure the feed hats to the rotors.

 

[SM105K]

For preventing fade, break ducting is by far the most effective approach, but it's such a PITA to install scoops, hoses and construct/secure the feed hats to the rotors.

I agree. So SS lines, and probably some Brembo's will be in order down the road.

 

[yaycandy]

For preventing fade, break ducting is by far the most effective approach, but it's such a PITA to install scoops, hoses and construct/secure the feed hats to the rotors.

Yea my vette has that and it looks like some well engineered routing of pipes and scoops. Probably could fab up your own scoops and hoses from the bottom corners of the bumper where it looks like foglights could have been but im at a loss for the rear....In the end it just a taurus

 

[yaycandy]

I agree. So SS lines, and probably some Brembo's will be in order down the road.

I have custom Wilwood rotors, pads and calipers on my 15 sho now. But they were like 1100$ i believe. I use r1 concepts on my miata and havent had any issues. But then again 1900lbs compared to 4600lbs. Maybe worth a try for under 400$