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Moneypit

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Is there any (cheap) ways to make my car corner better, it has new shocks and struts but it seems to tilt a bit far when i corner slightly fast, not crazy fast but quickly? :huh:
 

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One thing that helps a lot is the rear sway bar. You can get a used one at a junk yard for cheep. Just make sure it is at least 25mm (1") in diameter. Also, polyurethane or TPR bushings make a night and day difference. A good sway bar is useless without good bushings.

IIRC Gen I SHO's had the 26mm sway bar, and some others have a bigger one too. Just crawl under a few with your calipers and start measuring. ;)
 

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Havent used the 11 gauge, if you not inteding on jacking on them i wouldnt get them, i put the 16 gauge on my car, and they are awesome... no one as purchased the 11 gauge yet so i dont know....
 

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SHOman24v said:
Havent used the 11 gauge, if you not inteding on jacking on them i wouldnt get them, i put the 16 gauge on my car, and they are awesome... no one as purchased the 11 gauge yet so i dont know....

Maybe this is a dumb question: Where do I jack then? Also, I will be purchasing a "pad lift" soon, will that damage these SFCs?
 

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You can jack on them i mean, i put the jack on my 16 gauge.....i wouldnt much longer to make the 11, it just getting the metal, its much heaver and expensive, with 11 gauge shipping weights my double...
 

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SHOman24v said:
You can jack on them i mean, i put the jack on my 16 gauge.....i wouldnt much longer to make the 11, it just getting the metal, its much heaver and expensive, with 11 gauge shipping weights my double...

Okay, sounds good... last two questions: How long to get them, and how much for shipping? (16 gauge)
 

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thebigjimsho said:
And right behind Mark, wider wheels, wider wheels, wider wheels to go with those tires.

By far #1 and #2! Tires and wheels!

Good points! Without good rubber you'd have no need to stiffen up the frame, cuz yer slidin'!

I am in process for some BFG *-Force KDW 2. I hear they are super sticky and last a long time... AND they look kewl! ;)
 

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Yes, wider wheels as well! A 3500 lb taurus is to big/heavy for 6" wheels. Something in the 7.5-8" width range with 225-235 rubber is a huge improvement.

For an example, I ran my 92 at summit point for several track days a few years back, on Dunlop SP8000's (pretty stick "Z" street tire) on 6" slicers. Car would run about 1:40/lap. This was with a few bolt ons (MAF/Ypipe). The next time I ran an event there, I had a few less hp that before (stock MAF/stock ypipe) BUT had DOT Comp tires (V700) on 7.5" rims. (I realize this is an extreme example, in going from street tires to race tires, but...) Result? Lap times around 1:36. That's 4 secs faster, with probably 10 less hp. 4 secs at 100 mph (counting past the starting line) is ~40 car lengths. That's huge.

Going from bread n butter tires to performance tires on the street, is the same basic thing though.
 

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The key is to get the rear as stiff as possible and go from there. Forget about the front anti sway bar, infact if you remove it it will help the front traction.
 

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after watching SHOMurphs SR-69 in action this past weekend, i believe he has a very nice track car. Gen1 with 24/26 swaybars, 17" wheels rolling on unknown size Potenza RE70s, subframe connectors, Al SFBs, Tokicos, modified Cargo Coils, TPR bushing throughout. approaching 90MPH on a tight curve, body shows no sign of roll.

on my car, i just have 24/26, Tokicos, modified Cargo Coils, Al SFBs, poly swaybar bushings, sticky all performance tires. while its hold very well at high speeds, there is slight body roll. before the new tires, my new suspension was worthless. im in agreement that tires make all the difference.
 

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In a track car they might consider dropping the front bar down to a 22mm or even a 20.6mm bar... It will reduce understeer and improve corner exit traction.
 

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Nobody mentioned bushings... all around: try either polyurethane or TPR and maybe in this order sway bar bushings back and front, new endlinks front and back, then consider even subframe bushings, aluminum or Gen 3 upgrades (i recommend these) and not only there will be less roll, but you'll lose some of that torque steer too. It's totally different car after you do all that... You can also by all this as a kit for around $200 or less if you just get some and not all

good luck
 

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