Catch can.

[stripSHO]

OP, RX and UPR are both good units, plenty of YouTube videos on installation that you can copy. The RX site has both YouTube links and an actual diagram to follow if you want to replicate.
As for the RX can catching what the UPR missed, I'd chalk that up to probably neither being capable of catching 100% of anything and the RX being downstream of the UPR there's some additional cool down and condensation available.
I look at it like the large IR air compressor at work. It has a series of tubing, fins, and a fan to cool down the compressed air and let moisture condense to the drain. Then we have a second air conditioned dryer further down to really cool the air and take out the remaining moisture.
It's just my opinion, that having time to cool the blow by gasses to condense is probably one of the most important factors, so length of hose and placement of the can should be a big consideration.

You didn’t read. It was tested with the RX downstream and the RX caught 4x the fluid. They were then switched and the RX caught 19x the UPR (95%/5%). The UPR was then upgraded and put back in front and there was still just as much in the RX as there was in the UPR indicating even the upgraded UPR caught 1/2 of the contaminants passing through it at best.

 

[stripSHO]

I am not taking a RX rep's test/word on how much their product works better. I don't with any product. I look at real world test and results.

Fair enough. But don’t let the side-fact that RX didn’t deem UPR worthy of mention amongst a list of worthy competitive products blind you to the independent real world test and results presented in the thread. If you remove RX from the list, UPR still isn’t on it.

 

[skyshadow07]

MAN, I left a riot cooking here, didn't I?
First off, I hope we are all old enough to debate without getting our feelings hurt. I don't think that Kyle guy was.

I also don’t have the prestigious title of engineer, so I stick with what has been proven to work.

I do hold that title... F.E. in Mechanical. It don't mean shit. I have terrible common-sense abilities
**I am BY NO MEANS flexing it, I never try to on here. ****, I don't specialize in fluid dynamics so I could be a complete ignorant idiot**

@SM105K @stripSHO I feel like we've been down this road of the Dunning-Kruger effect before. If you assume you know how something works, I would suggest learning more about it. That is big in the engineering world. I'm not going off of old school hearsay or something a dealer mechanic told me. I'm positive that you do not have to pump or suck or exchange the pressure that builds in the crank. You just simply need to let it out. It is routed back into your intake for environmental reasons. The ideology that venting to the atmosphere throws oil everywhere is based on old school engines that had lesser tolerances.

I think the OP was looking for innovation, ideas, opinions, grassroots concepts.. etc You can't fault him for that. Also, you complain about the same question being asked over and over like this is some 'old golfer's lounge' where you don't want to help new members or new thought. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

 

[SM105K]

Fair enough. But don’t let the side-fact that RX didn’t deem UPR worthy of mention amongst a list of worthy competitive products blind you to the independent real world test and results presented in the thread. If you remove RX from the list, UPR still isn’t on it.

It is still on a different application...6 years ago.

I know my set up works, because it is application specific. I have the imperical data and have tested it every time I change the oil. It is roughly the same over and over.

Also I don't agree on your assement that street cars do not need CC's. They absolutely do. If they didn't there would not be any market for them. I believe all boosted engines in both race and street cars need them because I have pulled crap out of all of my CC's on every boosted car that I have owned.

 

[Kevin81]

I came from the Turbo LS crowd. I have zero brand loyalty. I buy and drive what fits my needs at that time in my life. All of my current vehicles all have something in common however. All are four door and all are turbo.

Sorta the same here. I'm all about going fast. And in the late 90s, early 2000s, when I was a younger buck, Chevy was the top dog for cheap(ish) speed. LS1 camaro with a T56? Yes please. Under 10K!?! Yes PRETTY please. But then they got popular, which = expensive.

If I was to declare loyalty to any brand, it would probably be Porsche. They manage to build cars whose performance somehow exceeds their individual stats.

 

[stripSHO]

It is still on a different application...6 years ago.

I know my set up works, because it is application specific. I have the imperical data and have tested it every time I change the oil. It is roughly the same over and over.

Also I don't agree on your assement that street cars do not need CC's. They absolutely do. If they didn't there would not be any market for them. I believe all boosted engines in both race and street cars need them because I have pulled crap out of all of my CC's on every boosted car that I have owned.

You know yours works because you have anecdotal evidence that there’s stuff in the can when you drain it. Other people have empirical proof that there’s better products on the market. I don't think you're making a bad recommendation and I’m not suggesting you rip yours out and get a different brand. Surely it’s a decent product and I'm glad you're happy with it. I’m just trying to break the cycle of “The only way to do things is the way everyone else’s signature dictates”. RX’s kit is also model-specific plug and play for the SHO with factory connectors...

@skyshadow07 how hilariously ironic you babble Dunning Kruger ad hominems at us, then go on thinking that anybody else here is talking about or concerned about pressure buildup. So now it seems even the basic concept of the term ventilation is escaping you? Moisture, carbon, unburned fuel, acids, et. al. are all forced past the rings into your crankcase and will contaminate your oil and block if it is not removed from the crankcase a.k.a. ventilated. Now mister big boy I-think-I-know-something-you-don't mechanical engineer I anxiously await your brilliant smartass explanation on how you think your setup replaces the contaminants in your block with fresh air absent any mechanical means of doing so. Did you miss my mention of a draft tube? Not sure what that is, why they exist, or how it would be relevant to your situation? Best google it so you don't unwittingly expose the rest of your dunning kruger to the forum.
Now Pluto, do I need to bring up the roll and benefit of crankcase vacuum pumps to demonstrate what an arrogant ****** you are as it relates to your more direct concern about crankcase pressures as well, or are you going to be a good boy and stop trying to **** on our carpet? Everyone else here seems to be having nice casual conversation. From my seat you're the only one trying in vain to be the smartest guy in the room.

 

[SHOCALL]

You know yours works because you have anecdotal evidence that there’s stuff in the can when you drain it. Other people have empirical proof that there’s better products on the market. I don't think you're making a bad recommendation and I’m not suggesting you rip yours out and get a different brand. Surely it’s a decent product and I'm glad you're happy with it. I’m just trying to break the cycle of “The only way to do things is the way everyone else’s signature dictates”. RX’s kit is also model-specific plug and play for the SHO with factory connectors...

@skyshadow07 how hilariously ironic you babble Dunning Kruger ad hominems at us, then go on thinking that anybody else here is talking about or concerned about pressure buildup. So now it seems even the basic concept of the term ventilation is escaping you? Moisture, carbon, unburned fuel, acids, et. al. are all forced past the rings into your crankcase and will contaminate your oil and block if it is not removed from the crankcase a.k.a. ventilated. Now mister big boy I-think-I-know-something-you-don't mechanical engineer I anxiously await your brilliant smartass explanation on how you think your setup replaces the contaminants in your block with fresh air absent any mechanical means of doing so. Did you miss my mention of a draft tube? Not sure what that is, why they exist, or how it would be relevant to your situation? Best google it so you don't unwittingly expose the rest of your dunning kruger to the forum.
Now Pluto, do I need to bring up the roll and benefit of crankcase vacuum pumps to demonstrate what an arrogant ****** you are as it relates to your more direct concern about crankcase pressures as well, or are you going to be a good boy and stop trying to **** on our carpet? Everyone else here seems to be having nice casual conversation. From my seat you're the only one trying in vain to be the smartest guy in the room.

Dude, what's your deal?

 

[luigisho]

 

[SM105K]

You know yours works because you have anecdotal evidence that there’s stuff in the can when you drain it. Other people have empirical proof that there’s better products on the market. I don't think you're making a bad recommendation and I’m not suggesting you rip yours out and get a different brand. Surely it’s a decent product and I'm glad you're happy with it. I’m just trying to break the cycle of “The only way to do things is the way everyone else’s signature dictates”. RX’s kit is also model-specific plug and play for the SHO with factory connectors...

@skyshadow07 how hilariously ironic you babble Dunning Kruger ad hominems at us, then go on thinking that anybody else here is talking about or concerned about pressure buildup. So now it seems even the basic concept of the term ventilation is escaping you? Moisture, carbon, unburned fuel, acids, et. al. are all forced past the rings into your crankcase and will contaminate your oil and block if it is not removed from the crankcase a.k.a. ventilated. Now mister big boy I-think-I-know-something-you-don't mechanical engineer I anxiously await your brilliant smartass explanation on how you think your setup replaces the contaminants in your block with fresh air absent any mechanical means of doing so. Did you miss my mention of a draft tube? Not sure what that is, why they exist, or how it would be relevant to your situation? Best google it so you don't unwittingly expose the rest of your dunning kruger to the forum.
Now Pluto, do I need to bring up the roll and benefit of crankcase vacuum pumps to demonstrate what an arrogant ****** you are as it relates to your more direct concern about crankcase pressures as well, or are you going to be a good boy and stop trying to **** on our carpet? Everyone else here seems to be having nice casual conversation. From my seat you're the only one trying in vain to be the smartest guy in the room.

All I am saying is the data you provided isn't specific for our application and is outdated. I am astounded how much fluid that guy was catching..geez.

I would love to see how a RX CC stacks up against my UPR. I recommend UPR because they are plug and play if you have a stock air box, they do not throw a CEL, they look amazing, and they work.

All products I recommend have been vetted by myself and others that I personally trust within our platform.

 

[SM105K]

Dude, what's your deal?

That is just him bro. I have learned to embrace it.

 

[SM105K]

Meme games continues to be strong.

 

[SHOCALL]

That is just him bro. I have learned to embrace it.

I thought skyshadow was very respectful. Downplayed his professional degrees. Never called anybody "******". Who says that?
I'm just saying, you don't have to go from cool to heated from the above comments.

 

[High on Ethanol]

Honestly, most of the time, responses on here do come off as *******. Idk why that is and personally I enjoy a good train wreck as long as I'm not a passenger.

Catch cans overall have one fatal flaw/selling point that makes it "work" for any application....and that is hot stuff cooling down makes fluids in can.
In reality my SHO seemed to have a super clean intake and throttle body without a catch can. Maybe I just drove it harder or maybe I was lucky, but maybe...just maybe....I didn't give a shit if anything happened because I had full intentions of selling it before 100k miles. Either way current owner is enjoying it so everyone is happy.

At the end of the day, you can do whatever the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF YA WANNA DO!

 

[stripSHO]

I thought skyshadow was very respectful. Downplayed his professional degrees. Never called anybody "******". Who says that?
I'm just saying, you don't have to go from cool to heated from the above comments.

You’re right, I don’t have to do it and maybe I shouldn’t. I’m just not afraid of being blunt like some are. If he wants to feign humility then in the next breath choose a more clever way of saying we don’t know what we’re talking about to be more graceful then good for him. But to do so with nothing to back him than “I’m an engineer and I know things” isn’t going to cut it for me. I’ve dealt with way too many engineers that don’t even have a grasp on basic grade school physics to accept a title as a rationale for out-of-the-blue insults from a guy I was trying to help out earlier.

 

[High on Ethanol]

You’re right, I don’t have to do it and maybe I shouldn’t. I’m just not afraid of being blunt like some are. If he wants to feign humility then in the next breath choose a more clever way of saying we don’t know what we’re talking about to be more graceful then good for him. But to do so with nothing to back him than “I’m an engineer and I know things” isn’t going to cut it for me. I’ve dealt with way too many engineers that don’t even have a grasp on basic grade school physics to accept a title as a rationale for out-of-the-blue insults from a guy I was trying to help out earlier.

We use engineers for our baseline drawings, then we AS-BUILT the sh*t out of it!!!!

Send em back some marked up drawings for revisions and by the time we get those we are ready for them to be revised to the current installation. Lol

 

[stripSHO]

We use engineers for our baseline drawings, then we AS-BUILT the sh*t out of it!!!!

Send em back some marked up drawings for revisions and by the time we get those we are ready for them to be revised to the current installation. Lol

No doubt. One of the last projects I oversaw the drawings were literally so bad that we threw them in the trash and the customer ended up having to pay me to redesign the system and spec new equipment. Chilled water system for a hydrogen fuel cell test lab.

 

[skyshadow07]

@stripSHO you need to breathe. You're coming off as a child ranting and tantruming. I'm not sure where to start for a response to your completely irrational shaken up bag of words. I think you're presuming ventilation of the crank case means to literally vent out bad air for good air..? Is that what you're saying...wow. But, My response doesn't matter, like my degree didn't matter.
I spent 4yr in the Corps to earn the GI Bill funding to allow me to spend over 5yr working on the degree... All to get chopped down, belitted and completely disregarded. Awesome man.
You do your thing with your car and I'll keep messing up mine.

 

[High on Ethanol]

@stripSHO you need to breathe. You're coming off as a child ranting and tantruming. I'm not sure where to start for a response to your completely irrational shaken up bag of words. I think you're presuming ventilation of the crank case means to literally vent out bad air for good air..? Is that what you're saying...wow. But, My response doesn't matter, like my degree didn't matter.
I spent 4yr in the Corps to earn the GI Bill funding to allow me to spend over 5yr working on the degree... All to get chopped down, belitted and completely disregarded. Awesome man.
You do your thing with your car and I'll keep messing up mine.

The degree means something, I went to school for 4 years in electrical engineering before I dropped out....the good excuse? I got a job offer starting at 35/hr so it made sense.....
Now for that bad/real excuse.... i partied too much and was on academic probation for missing too many days. Even with a 4.0, absence and tardiness weren't gonna fly. I lost my scholarships and grants and was going to have to pay out of pocket and repeat the last semester.

Do I regret it? **** yes I do! Admittedly I'm doing well for myself at 50/hr now but... i spend most of time on the road and I have no input as far as the initial design and parts used.....which sucks because I enjoy the creative side.

Congratulations for making it through college man. It ain't easy for sure. Much respect!

 

[skyshadow07]

You had a 4.0? DAAAMMNN! I think I grad'd with like a 3.2 or worse. E.E. is a tough degree too.
You're not missing much, well from where I'm standing you aren't. You are a *** on with just a FE and it takes 4 yr of working under a PE to test for your PE. I'm actually wanting to get into the safety side of M.E.

 

[High on Ethanol]

You had a 4.0? DAAAMMNN! I think I grad'd with like a 3.2 or worse. E.E. is a tough degree too.
You're not missing much, well from where I'm standing you aren't. You are a *** on with just a FE and it takes 4 yr of working under a PE to test for your PE. I'm actually wanting to get into the safety side of M.E.

I never got a degree lol. I am a master electrician/fiber optic technician/project manager/programmer/customer relations handler.
Typically drive 1-3hrs one way per job(over 2hrs requires hotel stay and gives per diem) before covid19 i was racking up 60-80hrs weekly. Im ONLY working 40hrs a week now...lol
That being said, I escaped college with zero debt.