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skyshadow07

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You’re right, I don’t have to do it and maybe I shouldn’t. I’m just not afraid of being blunt like some are. If he wants to feign humility then in the next breath choose a more clever way of saying we don’t know what we’re talking about to be more graceful then good for him. But to do so with nothing to back him than “I’m an engineer and I know things” isn’t going to cut it for me. I’ve dealt with way too many engineers that don’t even have a grasp on basic grade school physics to accept a title as a rationale for out-of-the-blue insults from a guy I was trying to help out earlier.

So I just saw this, I'm reading it that you think I was being pretentious by saying your finding was 'Dunning-Kruger'. That's something I say to suggest looking deeper because you're making assumptions or inaccurate correlations. Assumptions like stating anyone with a BS in any type of engineering doesn't know grade school physics. Schooling aside, they have to take a state-controlled 6ish hr long test to prove their abilities and knowledge. If you looked into the topic of becoming an engineer more deeply and learned that fact, you would then know more about the process and realize you knew less and wouldn't make a blanket statement... Dunning-Kruger

As for the venting in PCV, I believe they mean to vent pressure. Like how an overfilled propane tank vents off excess or a rocket ship on the launch pad will vent off boiling liquid fuel. It's not to be taken as venting as in cleaning a contaminate from the area.
 

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I never got a degree lol. I am a master electrician/fiber optic technician/project manager/programmer/customer relations handler.
Typically drive 1-3hrs one way per job(over 2hrs requires hotel stay and gives per diem) before covid19 i was racking up 60-80hrs weekly. Im ONLY working 40hrs a week now...lol
That being said, I escaped college with zero debt.

My buddy did something like that. He dropped out to become a service tech for Cox. He then shot up the ranks and became a field fiber optics tech and makes bank plus OT. He also works like 4 days on and 3 off, nice set up.
 

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As for the venting in PCV, I believe they mean to vent pressure. Like how an overfilled propane tank vents off excess or a rocket ship on the launch pad will vent off boiling liquid fuel. It's not to be taken as venting as in cleaning a contaminate from the area.

Brother, don’t spout how the “engineering world” researches things to develop better understanding then try to teach me you own poorly thought out and utterly non-researched opinion of what you think crankcase ventilation is about. You really need to follow your own advice and do just like 5 seconds of reading because your knowledge and understanding of today’s roll of crankcase ventilation is so far behind the times it carries its own AARP card. But just like the aforementioned engineer who could not be convinced an electric fan heats the space it is in(grade school science) you won’t listen to reason because you just know you’re right and there’s no arguing against your reckoning so you’ll toss out some more ad-hominem. Just do me a favor and next time you think about telling this child he needa to do more research before he is qualified or allowed to comment on something, try to not be talking out your **** and have some actual knowledge with you as you attempt to condescend me. I give zero poops about your career or your accomplishments and they grant you zero automatic credibility or superiority. College degrees are participation trophies, and I took an 8 hr state test for my mechanical contractor’s license so whoopty doo about your 6 hr exam. Clearly you’re super duper proud of yourself (no reason not to be) but there’s pride then there’s fool’s pride.

edit: since everybody always thinks I am throwing tantrums let me just clarify that am just talking people! :):):) See this is me smiling! No hard feelings okay?
 
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Brother, don’t spout how the “engineering world” researches things to develop better understanding then try to teach me you own poorly thought out and utterly non-researched opinion of what you think crankcase ventilation is about. You really need to follow your own advice and do just like 5 seconds of reading because your knowledge and understanding of today’s roll of crankcase ventilation is so far behind the times it carries its own AARP card. But just like the aforementioned engineer who could not be convinced an electric fan heats the space it is in(grade school science) you won’t listen to reason because you just know you’re right and there’s no arguing against your reckoning so you’ll toss out some more ad-hominem. Just do me a favor and next time you think about telling this child he needa to do more research before he is qualified or allowed to comment on something, try to not be talking out your **** and have some actual knowledge with you as you attempt to condescend me. I give zero poops about your career or your accomplishments and they grant you zero automatic credibility or superiority. College degrees are participation trophies, and I took an 8 hr state test for my mechanical contractor’s license so whoopty doo about your 6 hr exam. Clearly you’re super duper proud of yourself (no reason not to be) but there’s pride then there’s fool’s pride.

edit: since everybody always thinks I am throwing tantrums let me just clarify that am just talking people! :):):) See this is me smiling! No hard feelings okay?

Your edit made me chuckle.
 

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College degrees are participation awards?!?

Do you give 'poops' of any accomplished person or degree? Is anyone good enough?

I truly don't see a dialogue with that level of arrogance.

Plus you're apparently so insecure that you think I've been attempting to condescend when I restated multiple times I was trying to spread knowledge. Knowledge I clearly don't have because the college system is a participation awards ceremony or something. Just ******* all over people's accomplishments. You're so ******* cool man... That's an attempt at condescension.
 

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College degrees are participation awards?!?

Do you give 'poops' of any accomplished person or degree? Is anyone good enough?

I truly don't see a dialogue with that level of arrogance.

Plus you're apparently so insecure that you think I've been attempting to condescend when I restated multiple times I was trying to spread knowledge. Knowledge I clearly don't have because the college system is a participation awards ceremony or something. Just ******* all over people's accomplishments. You're so ******* cool man... That's an attempt at condescension.
Welp I can see I’ve struck a nerve so I’m gonna stop there as a truly don’t want this to turn into a long-term grudge and if I told you what I really think about the American education system you’d have a conniption fit. ****, it took daddy and I several months to move past our little spats and I really don’t feel like kicking up another one.

Bottom line- You started off in this thread thinking you were going to try to butthurt someone. Then you conjured up this delusion of a “riot” you started and proceeded to tag Easton and I and call us both out as exhibiting Dunning Kruger as we were just sitting there talking with each other. None of that adds one iota of knowledge to the discussion and I can’t fathom any other way to interpret that other than you actively seeking out a shitshow and calling me too stupid to recognize my own incompetence. Come in from left field spouting that kind of crap, and I’m going to take a bulldozer to the faux platform you’ve built up in your mind that makes you think you’re any smarter or better educated than me. Every. Single. Time. Understand?
At some point some really smart guy in this thread had a great idiom about vinegar and honey....
 

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Wait, I don't get a response? Is there a educated person or a degree you respect? Why do i feel like you're going to say "myself"?

Baha, thanks man. Me and the boys had a **** of a laugh this morning as I showed them your posts.

You're big on trying to come off a tough guy and you love to belittle (haven't been called that many names since grade school)... You should see someone about that.

Saddest part is this POINTLESS thread made it to SHOforum top threads of the week. Admin should do the world a favor and **** it off.

OH OH, before you go, You're a HVAC guy so I thought you would find this funny.. Can you help me understand how that gearing system works? I saw this on the way to work and thought, No way I'm smart enough to understand that. Grissle Pivot actuators maybe?
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Oh boy...we are getting personal now. Does a gear design for a company really hold any merit to this conversation?

I will say that....in the end building your own CC to properly work will not save you time and money in the end. If you actually know how they work, you should understand how important they are and you will would spent the money for a CC that is properly spec'd for your application. If a $300 critical component (that even Ford Recommends) is too expensive for you, you may want to re-think about your SHO ownership and the costs that you will incur later.
 

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I didn't read through the second half of this crap so forgive me if this was already covered. Really, this is for the OP's information because I'm not getting into arguments.

One of the first things I did when I got my car was try to figure out how to keep the blow by out of my intake. Since mine is a 2010 it doesn't have the updated valve cover. I used a scope and my intake valves were covered in built up carbon when I got the car.

They are two ways oil gets into the intake on the cars. First is the standard way through the PCV recirculation (back valve cover to intake) under vacuum. The second is under boost when it flows backwards out the clean side of the system (front valve cover to intake tube). There's lots of examples of oil in the CAC, this is from the second way mentioned above.

My solution was to completely remove the recirculation of the PCV system (similar to skyshadow but a little different). I removed the hose from the clean side. I plugged the hole in the intake tube and put a breather filter over the front valve cover side. This filter does have a little oil in it but it's not dropping or anything (been on for 5 years). For the dirty side I removed it from the intake and plugged the hole in the intake. I routed the dirty PCV hose carefully down a(from the exhaust) and stuck the hose it below the PTU. The idea was the fast flowing air below the car creates the low pressure needed to draw air through the engine.

That is what has worked for me. Take it for what you want and you can message me if you have any specific questions.
 

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Wait, I don't get a response? Is there a educated person or a degree you respect? Why do i feel like you're going to say "myself"?

Baha, thanks man. Me and the boys had a **** of a laugh this morning as I showed them your posts.

You're big on trying to come off a tough guy and you love to belittle (haven't been called that many names since grade school)... You should see someone about that.

Saddest part is this POINTLESS thread made it to SHOforum top threads of the week. Admin should do the world a favor and **** it off.

OH OH, before you go, You're a HVAC guy so I thought you would find this funny.. Can you help me understand how that gearing system works? I saw this on the way to work and thought, No way I'm smart enough to understand that. Grissle Pivot actuators maybe?
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Dude, are you seriously so distraught by some internet stranger not being impressed that you have to cry into the arms of your associates about it and chase around service vans to build an illogical case against me? I can present a published article from an ASHRAE-funded PhD engineering professor that demonstrates him being too incompetent to serve me french fries, and I can back it with related conversations held with his associate wherein he equally dismisses all established laws of physics for no other reason than academic arrogance, even directly contradicting his own written work in the process. I can share an instance where UL backs claims of a resistive heating element having an efficiency >100%, along with my correspondence pointing out the impossibility and providing probable flaws in their test methodology, and their rebuttal of 'F*ck the first law of thermodynamics, we're UL'. But as stated, this is not the place, they're logical fallacies anyway, and since you were first to say being an engineer doesn't mean shit there's no need really.

I respect anyone and everyone who earns respect- regardless of their education, title, occupation, etc. Seems you think a bought and paid for piece of paper demands respect and also grants free license to say and behave as you wish without challenge or repercussion. And since you're out doing surveillance on cargo vans rather than challenging/correcting my synopsis of this conversation I think it pretty well cements my interpretation and justifies my response. Sorry sir but if you act like a bitch to me you're going to start getting treated like a bitch, without warning or hesitation. Especially if you do it as I'm sitting there helping you see parts of the picture you're missing; and engaging in conversation for the sole purpose of supporting you and your point that new information and ideas are frowned upon. For better or worse, that's who I am and that's how I react.

Oh and p.s. you're looking at 2D drawing of a gearset and seems you're making the bad assumption that they're all occupying a single plane on the z-axis. Hope that helps you solve the riddle... it's a real brain buster.
 

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Wait...the Z axis can go to and away from you on a single plane?
 

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My solution was to completely remove the recirculation of the PCV system (similar to skyshadow but a little different). I removed the hose from the clean side. I plugged the hole in the intake tube and put a breather filter over the front valve cover side. This filter does have a little oil in it but it's not dropping or anything.

Leaving all the other mods out of the equation, if you replace the oil filler cap on the front valve cover with the air filter offered by CFM, there's really no reason to to retain the hose from the rocker cover to the air intake, correct? The web page seems to indicate that it's made to vent off pressure under boost, not allow clean air in which seems a little odd considering the filter design.
 
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I didn't read through the second half of this crap so forgive me if this was already covered. Really, this is for the OP's information because I'm not getting into arguments.

One of the first things I did when I got my car was try to figure out how to keep the blow by out of my intake. Since mine is a 2010 it doesn't have the updated valve cover. I used a scope and my intake valves were covered in built up carbon when I got the car.

They are two ways oil gets into the intake on the cars. First is the standard way through the PCV recirculation (back valve cover to intake) under vacuum. The second is under boost when it flows backwards out the clean side of the system (front valve cover to intake tube). There's lots of examples of oil in the CAC, this is from the second way mentioned above.

My solution was to completely remove the recirculation of the PCV system (similar to skyshadow but a little different). I removed the hose from the clean side. I plugged the hole in the intake tube and put a breather filter over the front valve cover side. This filter does have a little oil in it but it's not dropping or anything (been on for 5 years). For the dirty side I removed it from the intake and plugged the hole in the intake. I routed the dirty PCV hose carefully down a(from the exhaust) and stuck the hose it below the PTU. The idea was the fast flowing air below the car creates the low pressure needed to draw air through the engine.

That is what has worked for me. Take it for what you want and you can message me if you have any specific questions.
Reminds me of my 62 Chevy.......
 

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My catch can works like a charm.
The word "you" when used in a sentence is a direct attempt to control the other person.
I could not control my laughter on this post.
Thanks one and all!
Shoblock
 

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Catch can is an appropriate title for this thread full of ********* shit. Isn't there a moderator here anymore?
 

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Catch can is an appropriate title for this thread full of ********* shit. Isn't there a moderator here anymore?

There is and they let it ride as it should.
 

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