Car died, and won't start anymore!

[jeanrw2000]

That's not what I'm saying at all. You got a no crank situation, check if your starter's getting power, if not you know it's either the battery, wires, or your clutch interlock.

Does your radio, and lights (interior and exterior) work? If they don't you know it's battery related.

What exactly do you mean "nothing else works"? No lights, no door chime, no nothing?

i meant engine related.

i turn the key on the ignition everything electrical works, ( i.e. lights, radio dome lights) the engine is dead though. that is the best way i can explain it. sorry.

What EXACTLY happens when you turn the key to START? If you clutch interlock is bad, the car will make a single click, that is all. No crank, no starter, nothing. Just as if you were trying to start the car with the clutch pedal not depressed. If that is the case, just add a jumper in the switch and the car should start. I have had these go out for no apparent reason whatsoever. One day it worked, next day it did not. Jumpered the switch and it is fine.

When i turn the key to start nothing happens at all, just like you saying, same as if the clutch pedal was not depressed.

If that is the case, just add a jumper in the switch and the car should start.

I tried to jump start the car but it didn't work since the battery is almost brand new anyways.


I don't think i get the concept of jumper in the switch, i am confusing it with jump start the car??

 

[DDakRT]

Alrighty, so it's not battery, wiring, or starter related then. Follow Tim's advice, check the clutch interlock, it's the plastic switch on the clutch pedal arm.

 

[jeanrw2000]

Alrighty, so it's not battery, wiring, or starter related then. Follow Tim's advice, check the clutch interlock, it's the plastic switch on the clutch pedal arm.

i still dont know how am i going to add a jumper in the switch?

jean.

 

[Toolman]

i still dont know how am i going to add a jumper in the switch?

jean.

WARNING: MAKE SURE YOUR CAR IS IN NUETRAL PRIOR TO TRYING TO START, AS YOU HAVE NOW DEACTIVATED YOUR CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCH AND YOUR CLUTCH NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DEPRESSED TO START THE CAR



You will need a short piece of wire with male disconnect connectors on both ends. Just like the one below, but with the pictured connectors on both ends. Get under the dash, and at the top of the clutch pedal you will see a white box with a 2-wire plug. Remove plug from switch and insert male connectors of your jumper into plug.

WARNING: MAKE SURE YOUR CAR IS IN NUETRAL PRIOR TO TRYING TO START, AS YOU HAVE NOW DEACTIVATED YOUR CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCH AND YOUR CLUTCH NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DEPRESSED TO START THE CAR

 

[jeanrw2000]

WARNING: MAKE SURE YOUR CAR IS IN NUETRAL PRIOR TO TRYING TO START, AS YOU HAVE NOW DEACTIVATED YOUR CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCH AND YOUR CLUTCH NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DEPRESSED TO START THE CAR



You will need a short piece of wire with male disconnect connectors on both ends. Just like the one below, but with the pictured connectors on both ends. Get under the dash, and at the top of the clutch pedal you will see a white box with a 2-wire plug. Remove plug from switch and insert male connectors of your jumper into plug.

WARNING: MAKE SURE YOUR CAR IS IN NUETRAL PRIOR TO TRYING TO START, AS YOU HAVE NOW DEACTIVATED YOUR CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCH AND YOUR CLUTCH NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DEPRESSED TO START THE CAR

do i start the car then with the wire inside the plugs??


Man i was trying to jump start the car!!! :banghd:

 

[Toolman]

Yeah, just start it up, just make sure your car is in nuetral.

 

[40BelowSummer]

Yes you are just closing the circuit; cross the two wires inside the connector.

We have deemed it is you starting system:
- Battery
- Battery Cables
- Ignition/Clutch Interlock switch
- Starter
- Starter Solenoid

If its a new battery like you say and you tried jump starting it then that shouldnt be a problem. You also say you had the starter tested which verifies it's working. I don't think its your ignition/clutch interlock switch or else you wouldn't get a "click" when you try and start the car.

This leads me to believe it may be your battery cables or starter solenoid. Try turning on your headlights, if they look nice and bright then that's good, you must at least have a good ground. Perhaps it is the starter solenoid which I believe it attached/built on to the starter on a GenII as opposed to the fender mounted solenoid on the GenI.

If the car is even trying to crank it's not your CID/CPS sensor or any sensor for that matter.

 

[DDakRT]

Yes you are just closing the circuit; cross the two wires inside the connector.

We have deemed it is you starting system:
- Battery
- Battery Cables
- Ignition/Clutch Interlock switch
- Starter
- Starter Solenoid

If its a new battery like you say and you tried jump starting it then that shouldnt be a problem. You also say you had the starter tested which verifies it's working. I don't think its your ignition/clutch interlock switch or else you wouldn't get a "click" when you try and start the car.

This leads me to believe it may be your battery cables or starter solenoid. Try turning on your headlights, if they look nice and bright then that's good, you must at least have a good ground. Perhaps it is the starter solenoid which I believe it attached/built on to the starter on a GenII as opposed to the fender mounted solenoid on the GenI.

If the car is even trying to crank it's not your CID/CPS sensor or any sensor for that matter.

Thats what I suggested before, but his lights and radio work so that's not it. Still wouldn't hurt to get a voltage meter and check out the volt at the starter though.

I don't think it's the solenoid since there is no "click", it should click if that's the case. It's not the CIS or CID because it's not cranking, those has nothing to do with the starter trying to turn over.

The next logical thing to check is the clutch interlock, although it is weird that he couldn't jump start it.

 

[jeanrw2000]

WARNING: MAKE SURE YOUR CAR IS IN NUETRAL PRIOR TO TRYING TO START, AS YOU HAVE NOW DEACTIVATED YOUR CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCH AND YOUR CLUTCH NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DEPRESSED TO START THE CAR



You will need a short piece of wire with male disconnect connectors on both ends. Just like the one below, but with the pictured connectors on both ends. Get under the dash, and at the top of the clutch pedal you will see a white box with a 2-wire plug. Remove plug from switch and insert male connectors of your jumper into plug.

WARNING: MAKE SURE YOUR CAR IS IN NUETRAL PRIOR TO TRYING TO START, AS YOU HAVE NOW DEACTIVATED YOUR CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCH AND YOUR CLUTCH NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DEPRESSED TO START THE CAR

hey Tim i tried the jumping thing today a least in three different plugs that i though to be the one you described and none of them work, do you have a picture of this switch by any chance?

thanks

Jean.

 

[jeanrw2000]

On that note!

Is there anybody here on the forum has a picture of switch in question?

it would be really helpful, thanks

 

[DDakRT]

It's the little box on the clutch pedal arm, there's only one, you can't miss it.

 

[jeanrw2000]

It's the little box on the clutch pedal arm, there's only one, you can't miss it.

I actually i got a few little boxes on the clutch pedal and they are not white, and they all have a two wire plug??

 

[NiNeTy Fo SHO]

Its located between the firewall and clutch arm. There is a little button that when the clutch goes down, this button gets pressed into the box therefore telling the car that the clutch pedal is down.

Look for this button being pushed...it is in constant contact with the clutch pedal.

 

[RStalveyARFF]

Charge the battery. Even new ones get drained. And you wouldn't believe how many jump starts I get called to where they've tried jumping off a car and had no luck.

 

[jeanrw2000]

Charge the battery. Even new ones get drained. And you wouldn't believe how many jump starts I get called to where they've tried jumping off a car and had no luck.

I checked the battery and it was fine, plus all the electrical stuff works ok no problem i think the problem had to do with the either the cables going to the starter, the switch mount it on the clutch or, some kind of a bad fuse some where,

but i already check the ones near the driver door, under the stering wheel.
i have to located where the others are??

i can only work on my car on the weekends because my working hours but, as i right now everything still no brom, brom....:cry:

thanks for all the imputs, tho

jean.

 

[DDakRT]

Like I said before Jean, check the voltage to the starter, takes all of 2 minutes to do and will either confirm or eliminate 1/3 of your choices.

 

[jeanrw2000]

Like I said before Jean, check the voltage to the starter, takes all of 2 minutes to do and will either confirm or eliminate 1/3 of your choices.

will do thanks

 

[jeanrw2000]

Ok so i went to the car this morning and the battery was completely dead.
I guess i have a bad ground somewhere or something??

oh yeah is this the switch i am suppose to jumpstart??

 

[jeanrw2000]

IS alIVE!!

IS alIVE!!

Well this is going to sound stupid but i decide to go ahead and replace the old starter and :brom, BromM

The weird part was that i had already have them test the old one and i was working just fine? apparently the starter had enough juice to work by itself but not enough to make the car work??

well now is working and things are back to normal:cry: :cry:

a lot of gas per mile, black smoke stains on my rear bump, and crazy idle...

 

[Toolman]

Excellent!!