Can I bolt up a tranny from a 90 SHO to my 95 both 3.0 of course

[luigisho]

As you said do everything you want done to it while it's out. Sooo much easier. Depending on where you live you can find engine hoists to rent if you don't have the room to store one. Most people don't use them much and they add to the clutter. You won't save a lot renting one vs buying one but I had to give one away last time I had one and then had to move. Only used it once in that time

 

[tery]

thank you vm Devin, Hoist here is 40 for a week, so that seems a good way to go ,...or I can get one used once or twice on crags for about 100$

Anyway...Kevin...are these the two bolts you're talking about to fee the tranny from the short block??



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[rubydist]

jeez, what a mess.

no, the bolts go horizontally from the pan and thread into the bell housing, toward the bottom of the pan, iirc.

 

[Devin]

pics provided

 

[tery]

Great Great!!! Thank you both...Tomorrow,I'll get off the intake and the tranny and then report



I think I'll also have a shot at the crank bolt and see if I get any movement...if not...maybe get the tranny off and then block the flywheel,,,

Judging from how the crank turned and looking into one cylinder, I didn't see any red flags yet, but I'm working on getting a hoist so the get the pan off and see the crank and rod bearings

I bet if I loosen the winch strap, I can kinda lift the front of the engine and then let its own weight down on the crank pulley, Maybe that'll hold it, I've got a pretty good electric impact..

 

[tery]

I can tell you one thing...doing this work today was great education...cause now I understand what I've got to do to get that cam seal replaced, and...yeah...that's why they charge what they do

When i open the hood of the metro now and look at the little three cylinder motor in there, I just laugh and laugh...I can imagine when Yamaha told ford how big their motor was and then ford said ..well here's how big the engine bay is...they said yeah...great...no problem..the battery will never shift a half a freakin inch and crash into the front pulleys...

 

[tery]

I got the tranny off and slid it down two 4x4 posts onto a dolly...Intake came off nice and a couple of the plug wells were shiny, nothing terrible really. I've been cranking on the crank bolt, I think it moved a little, but I'm gonna give it a rest. Can you guys tell me more about the heat idea. ...I know you torch it for a half minute or so...and then do you try the impact while it is still hot...expanded?? that seems like asking for trouble....or do you wait for it to cool, the idea being that it has expanded and contracted micron and then may release??/
Someone had already taken out one of the horizontal bolts and someone tried to get the tranny off a while back and chipped the two lower mounting holes on the bell housing, I...got all of the off except one on the far right, I guess I wasn't patient enough or it was weakened by rust...anyway, I broke off one bolt head, so that'll have to be tapped out I guess to re-use this bell housing...

Does the throwout bearing have a cotter pin or something that is supposed to go through the shift fork and into that bearing?? Cause there was nothing there..Seems like there's need to be a pin or something...maybe that's what happened?? The throwout bearing cam loose and they tried to open up the tranny to fix it and then after breaking of two small places on the bottom edge of the bell,,,,they gave up...just guessing of course...
Let me hear your thoughts when you have time...esp about the heating the crank bolt to try to get it to release
thx

 

[Jim Frye]

I got the tranny off and slid it down two 4x4 posts onto a dolly...Intake came off nice and a couple of the plug wells were shiny, nothing terrible really. I've been cranking on the crank bolt, I think it moved a little, but I'm gonna give it a rest. Can you guys tell me more about the heat idea. ...I know you torch it for a half minute or so...and then do you try the impact while it is still hot...expanded?? that seems like asking for trouble....or do you wait for it to cool, the idea being that it has expanded and contracted micron and then may release??/
Someone had already taken out one of the horizontal bolts and someone tried to get the tranny off a while back and chipped the two lower mounting holes on the bell housing, I...got all of the off except one on the far right, I guess I wasn't patient enough or it was weakened by rust...anyway, I broke off one bolt head, so that'll have to be tapped out I guess to re-use this bell housing...

Does the throwout bearing have a cotter pin or something that is supposed to go through the shift fork and into that bearing?? Cause there was nothing there..Seems like there's need to be a pin or something...maybe that's what happened?? The throwout bearing cam loose and they tried to open up the tranny to fix it and then after breaking of two small places on the bottom edge of the bell,,,,they gave up...just guessing of course...
Let me hear your thoughts when you have time...esp about the heating the crank bolt to try to get it to release
thx

No cotter pin, there's a small plastic that is used to hold T/O bearing in place during assembly. Not necessary for bearing operation.

 

[tery]

wow...thanks for that Jim..I guess the pressure plate and everything holds things where they're supposed to be??

So my theory about what happened is up in smoke, much like the black dirt inside the bell housing??

 

[Jim Frye]

wow...thanks for that Jim..I guess the pressure plate and everything holds things where they're supposed to be??

So my theory about what happened is up in smoke, much like the black dirt inside the bell housing??

Black dirt may be a sign of normal clutch wear. You don't know how the car was driven before, i.e. slipping at start, trying to do burn outs. Any sign your input seal is leaking.

 

[rubydist]

I have a craftsman breaker bar, and a 3' piece of pipe I slip over that to get things like crank bolts loose. Use a 6 sided socket and be sure it is all the way on, because I have seen crank bolts that were rounded off by people who were not paying attention... An assistant holding a large flat screwdriver in one of the teeth of the flywheel/flex plate will hold the crank from turning.

 

[tery]

Ain't got no assistant...:-((

 

[tery]

So now, I have to get a harmonic balance puller right??

Hey Jim...teach me about input seal??

 

[luigisho]

If you can't borrow a helper maybe you can travel it to or have an air comp & gun brought by for a quick hit on the crank bolt. Otherwise you have to jamb up the flywheel somehow. Pain in the butt. A quick shot with air gun moves it out. You try the electric impact on the fluke it might work?

 

[tery]

Hey...are you talking about getting the crank pulley off?? I don't understand your explanation but I really want to, can you explain like you're talking to someone who has never done it before. I watched someone do it on a little motor once but it just popped off with a couple hits from behind... thanks in advance,
T

I can for sure jam up the flywheel...this held it for me to get out the crank bolt...although the screw driver is useless now..

 

[rubydist]

that screwdriver is still very useful, for example when you want to tighten the crank damper pulley bolt...

 

[kevinspann]

Is that the smaller early clutch?

 

[Jim Frye]

So now, I have to get a harmonic balance puller right??

Hey Jim...teach me about input seal??

Talking about the seal around the splined shaft of the transaxle. If it is seeping at all, the trans fluid combined with clutch disc dust can make a mess of the inside of the bell housing.

 

[tery]

Hard to say, its been in the jy for at least a year, but I'll do some further investigation soon

 

[tery]

Hey Kevin, I would not know what to look for o see any difference in clutch size earlier or later??/
Me no know