blew the powerdine up today.

[Jonny Cash]

At first what I thought was a PS problem, definitly wasnt. I overspun it, and the noise just got worse and worse. I limped the car home with no other problems

Looks like Ill be throwing a Vortech on there sooner than expected.

So is it worth the 5 rebuliding it, or just scrap it.?

 

[shogansta]

Rather then scraping it give it to me!! i could really use it!! but most likely as what i have heard its not worth rebuilding! but i havent had a chance to ss a SHO so......

 

[DDakRT]

Can you just "throw" a Vortech on there?

 

[Jonny Cash]

Can you just "throw" a Vortech on there?

Well.. Not exactly.

But pretty much yea.

 

[HotRodKid]

PD's are one of the lowest forms of superchargers

shit warranty
shit fitment
shit quality control

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY is that theuir impellers were designed by ******* ray charles .... the impellers / housings are HORRIBLY innefective

if you were to take a car, say a late 90's LS1 camaro, buy a supercharge kit from powerdyne, paxton AND vortech, and install the kits one at a time

(ie, install powerdyne - dyno - remove --install paxton - dyno - remove ....)

gues which kit puts down the WORST numbers .... BY FAR ...

yup .... the Powerdyne!

and oh yea, read some powerdyne reviews : http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/...rgers/Powerdyne/PRD_2186_2877crx.aspx#reviews

 

[SinisterSHO]

Well.. Not exactly.

But pretty much yea.

If you got the blower with the curved discharge, wouldn't you only need a different bracket?

 

[Jonny Cash]

PD's are one of the lowest forms of superchargers

shit warranty
shit fitment
shit quality control

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY is that theuir impellers were designed by screwing ray charles .... the impellers / housings are HORRIBLY innefective

if you were to take a car, say a late 90's LS1 camaro, buy a supercharge kit from powerdyne, paxton AND vortech, and install the kits one at a time

(ie, install powerdyne - dyno - remove --install paxton - dyno - remove ....)

gues which kit puts down the WORST numbers .... BY FAR ...

yup .... the Powerdyne!

and oh yea, read some powerdyne reviews : http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/...rgers/Powerdyne/PRD_2186_2877crx.aspx#reviews

Most of the bad feedback was customer service. To compare new prices, theyre somewhat worth it. Being that they have to be rebult every 10k is their main con. I paid beans for this unit, and it put out for well over 10k before crapping out. It was my own fault, I just wanted to get everything together. I cant complain.

If you got the blower with the curved discharge, wouldn't you only need a different bracket?

A Vortech with a curved discharge? Is there such thing? I already have a Vortech bracket.

 

[SinisterSHO]

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/units/t-trim.html

 

[shodup]

Come on Jay.... Thats something i would do lol

 

[MYSHO1]

Come on Jay.... Thats something i would do lol

You cant keep one running long enough to blow up...

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

PD's are one of the lowest forms of superchargers

shit warranty
shit fitment
shit quality control

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY is that theuir impellers were designed by screwing ray charles .... the impellers / housings are HORRIBLY innefective

if you were to take a car, say a late 90's LS1 camaro, buy a supercharge kit from powerdyne, paxton AND vortech, and install the kits one at a time

(ie, install powerdyne - dyno - remove --install paxton - dyno - remove ....)

gues which kit puts down the WORST numbers .... BY FAR ...

yup .... the Powerdyne!

and oh yea, read some powerdyne reviews : http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/...rgers/Powerdyne/PRD_2186_2877crx.aspx#reviews

well comeing from someone who owns a powerdyne... they make hella power downlow but choke up top. i had a 5.0 with a over spun bd11a powerdyne... still have the blower(and engine for the matter). the way they made the impeller was to bring boost on at a much lower rpm.. and that it did. but yeah what im saying is if you wan a pos blower that will last ya 10k miles and make hella low end power... then powerdynes the way to go but ill never buy another one. tho it was fun having booted power off idle

just my 2 cents
-Turbo bob.

 

[shodup]

You cant keep one running long enough to blow up...

I blew yours up pretty nicely

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

Can you just "throw" a Vortech on there?

from what i remember yes you can.. they use the same bracketry.. just get the right output on the snail and your good togo.. i know on mustangs you can use the vortech aftercooler in place of the discharge pipe and it fits perfectly. but yeah powerdynes are junk the problem with them is the internal belt (which they have an upgraded wider kevlar belt for them to fix that) and they used generic bearings (which theres also high grade replacements to fix that problem as well) but with only 800cfm at 9psi id just get a vortech.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

At first what I thought was a PS problem, definitly wasnt. I overspun it, and the noise just got worse and worse. I limped the car home with no other problems

Looks like Ill be throwing a Vortech on there sooner than expected.

So is it worth the 5 rebuliding it, or just scrap it.?

you can rebuild it for 100-150 bucks easy with the upgraded belt and bearings... but i wouldnt do it unless if moneys a problem. i over spun mine one day it just started makeing a tinging metal sound, i pulled right over and removed the belt and the tinging went away... took the thing home took the snail off and noticed the impeller was scraping the snail shell... the bearings tooka dump on me... the blower lasted me maybe 10k mile give or take... big waste of money. it was fun while it lasted tho.

-Turbo Bob.

 

[Jonny Cash]

from what i remember yes you can.. they use the same bracketry.. just get the right output on the snail and your good togo.. i know on mustangs you can use the vortech aftercooler in place of the discharge pipe and it fits perfectly. but yeah powerdynes are junk the problem with them is the internal belt (which they have an upgraded wider kevlar belt for them to fix that) and they used generic bearings (which theres also high grade replacements to fix that problem as well) but with only 800cfm at 9psi id just get a vortech.

The bolt patterns on the brackets are completly different.

FYI. Rebuilds for Pdine that are worth anything are 350 DIY.
A ship out will cost 500.

Your right the TQ this thing put out was humbling. Nothing up top. Wasnt right for the SHO, maybe a mustang.

 

[Yamaha V6]

Jay -
"AIRFLOW" dude. You're choking it off up top, most likely. Get yourself a bigger filter, unless you're using the one I offered you (have a NIB version of the mushed one, FYI).

They specifically used smaller filters to limit boost / airflow up higher for the "9psi / 12psi" kits. They also used to ship a reducer piece (have one in the junk pile). The theory was, use a 15psi pulley to spin up faster, put a reducer to limit airflow up high. Problem with the PD is using the smaller pulley is still overspinning the blower.

Make sure you watch the A/F too, if you go with a more efficient Vortech setup. You don't want to "Pull a Corey" and go lean.

 

[Jonny Cash]

Jay -
"AIRFLOW" dude. You're choking it off up top, most likely. Get yourself a bigger filter, unless you're using the one I offered you (have a NIB version of the mushed one, FYI).

They specifically used smaller filters to limit boost / airflow up higher for the "9psi / 12psi" kits. They also used to ship a reducer piece (have one in the junk pile). The theory was, use a 15psi pulley to spin up faster, put a reducer to limit airflow up high. Problem with the PD is using the smaller pulley is still overspinning the blower.

Make sure you watch the A/F too, if you go with a more efficient Vortech setup. You don't want to "Pull a Corey" and go lean.

My inlet is 4". I went out and bought the exact filter we were gonna use that day. Its pretty big lol. It actually ended up a little smushed due to having to jam it in the fenderwell. Nothing major though. Theres plenty of air getting in.

I was only getting 5lbs out of the PD on the dyno. It would hold decent boost to 4500rpm, after that, just slippage. TQ curve would FLY up, and then flatline. It was initially tuned for the 9 on the 'safe' side, so I wasnt scared of cranking down the belt a little tighter. (bye bye alternator!!) That was the blowers demise. I wanted it to go away anyway. I was very limited with it even with a stock motor. I wasnt ready to play phone tag for 6 months with powerdine anyway.

As far as blowing the car up with the Vortech. I have a new wideband waiting for me to back me up on that. Still a ways to go.

 

[SHOMurph]

As far as blowing the car up with the Vortech. I have a new wideband waiting for me to back me up on that. Still a ways to go.

If you go Vortechy then I would recommend going ahead and getting a T-trim that is polished.

Shiney is nice for a couple extra Benjies.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

The bolt patterns on the brackets are completly different.

FYI. Rebuilds for Pdine that are worth anything are 350 DIY.
A ship out will cost 500.

Your right the TQ this thing put out was humbling. Nothing up top. Wasnt right for the SHO, maybe a mustang.

350 bucks diy??? dude i know a site you can get the stuff for WAY cheaper! gimme a day or so ill see if i can find it i had it book marked on my pc before i lost it (long storey dont ask)

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

If you go Vortechy then I would recommend going ahead and getting a T-trim that is polished.

Shiney is nice for a couple extra Benjies.

polished blower= hotter discharge temps, it may look a heck of a lot better but it make the charge air temp alot hotter.