A possible big year for the SHO record book?

[AREA 91]

You should Offer them to me.

You are not worthy...............................................yet....

 

[SHOclass]

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C'mon give him the slicks ....

 

[Sho Amo]

You didnt offer them to me!


Just kidding.

 

[AREA 91]

You didnt offer them to me!


Just kidding.

I thought you were doing just fine on your own.

I am pretty sure you had the fastest V6 SHO time there by quite a bit!!!
:woo-hoo:

 

[Sho Amo]

Lol, my DR's were struggling a bit. I think that was due to the fact that I had IPT coilovers with short ass rear springs. I should have did what Marcel did. It looked like he had his jacked up pretty good somehow.

 

[frosho]

I think he just stuffed some spring blocks in the rear.

 

[K-Dawg]

Pretty sure he screwed the collars all the way up.

 

[zach44102]

Well Evan will make it out to the track before me but im not too far behind. The car should be together in 2 weeks at the most. O and Brain, slicks please

 

[RonPorter]

Well Evan will make it out to the track before me but im not too far behind. The car should be together in 2 weeks at the most. O and Brain, slicks please

I would suggest trying sticky street tires (like RS3s, for example) or DRs first.

To make slicks work properly is a whole different dynamic. Plus, you need to bring spare axles along as maintenance items.

Work on the "driver mod" with DRs or good stickies first. Then tackle the learning curve to make slicks work.

Slicks are not an immediate cure of anything. For example, on the street, pure slicks would be worse than DRs or other good summer tires.

 

[zach44102]

I would suggest trying sticky street tires (like RS3s, for example) or DRs first.

To make slicks work properly is a whole different dynamic. Plus, you need to bring spare axles along as maintenance items.

Work on the "driver mod" with DRs or good stickies first. Then tackle the learning curve to make slicks work.

Slicks are not an immediate cure of anything. For example, on the street, pure slicks would be worse than DRs or other good summer tires.

Well after managing consistent 2.2 60ft times on just plain bridgestone summer tires i think i could be ready to learn how to use slicks. But i will only go to slicks if i cant run faster than a 13.8 all motor on street tires. From what i hear slicks are less Damaging on axles than slicks but never experienced this. Also ill be on a g3 subframe and from what shoamo says helps a lot.

 

[RonPorter]

Well after managing consistent 60ft times on just plain bridgestone summer tires i think i could be ready to learn how to use slicks. But i will only go to slicks if i cant run faster than a 13.8 all motor on street tires. From what i hear slicks are less Damaging on axles than slicks but never experienced this. Also ill be on a g3 subframe and from what shoamo says helps a lot.

You may be driving well for you limited experience, but not enough yet.

The comment about slicks is pure BS. If that was the case, why would ANYONE run slicks over DRs?????????

Slicks give you better 60' times. That is harder on EVERYTHING!!!!

If slicks were easier on axles, he wasn't doing it right. DRs have gotten RWD cars into the 9s (the last I recall....maybe better today??) but those are RWD cars.

Slicks work better.....when properly prepared.....which means that ALL engine/drivetrain components are more stressed.

 

[SHOspazz92]

You may be driving well for you limited experience, but not enough yet.

The comment about slicks is pure BS. If that was the case, why would ANYONE run slicks over DRs?????????

Slicks give you better 60' times. That is harder on EVERYTHING!!!!

If slicks were easier on axles, he wasn't doing it right. DRs have gotten RWD cars into the 9s (the last I recall....maybe better today??) but those are RWD cars.

Slicks work better.....when properly prepared.....which means that ALL engine/drivetrain components are more stressed.

People have run 8's on DR's!

-Sam

 

[RonPorter]

You may be driving well for you limited experience, but not enough yet.

The comment about slicks is pure BS. If that was the case, why would ANYONE run slicks over DRs?????????

Slicks give you better 60' times. That is harder on EVERYTHING!!!!

If slicks were easier on axles, he wasn't doing it right. DRs have gotten RWD cars into the 9s (the last I recall....maybe better today??) but those are RWD cars.

Slicks work better.....when properly prepared.....which means that ALL engine/drivetrain components are more stressed.

People have run 8's on DR's!

-Sam

I'm sure they are!!

And as I thought of it, it was a FWD car that was in the very low 9s, but this was "maybe" 5-6 years ago when I was getting one of the tuner mags. I'm sure they've gotten better with it, I just haven't been following it.

Bottom line is, it ain't the tire, you gotta have the setup and driving technique to make it work. Over the years I've seen guys try DRs and even regular slicks and run slower.....

 

[DrivinhardLLC]

Then we have Mark N's gutted Nitrous car, that ran the same quick time hossiers that Brian does...that car could only do 12.90's. Obviously, the DR cars have outran the cars on slicks by quite a big margin at this point.

I had 2 cars and ran 3 different tires. The first car was a dirt cheap rusty titanium '89 that I ran BFG 235/15 DR's on. I don't remember (we are talking 11 yrs ago!) what it ran all motor but it ran in the high 12's on the bottle. The 2nd car was the black no option 89, it was 200 lbs lighter than my fully optioned 92 when it was stock (I weighed them both).

The black car I ran the 225/50/16 nitto 555R2 drag radials on slicers and it ran a best of 13.9x with those tires, with only the passenger seat removed. I had not done anything to it that point except swap in the black interior, put in the 3.2L w/ 3.0L cams, quaife, UDPs, MAF, ypipe and catback. It even had a stock tune then.

It would never remotely hook up through a 1st gear pull on nitrous with those nitto's, so I ran the hoosier quick time pro's. They were taller and way stickier, so they would hold up to a 1st gear pull on the bottle. 60' time however, I don't remember being any better. The nitto's were good n/a because they were shorter, and the car did better n/a with a little more "gearing" from the shorter tire.

That 13.9 run (like all the 14.0 and 14.1 runs it did) was brutal, it is full throttle 100% of the time from the time it hooks up till the traps, no lift shifting all the way down, with the sintered metallic clutch it would chirp 3rd gear pretty good. I always lifted on the nitrous pulls while shifting, I figured something would break engaging the clutch @ WOT with 300+ ft/lbs running through the clutch.

zach if you run your car at commerce this spring I will come up some fri night and run the road race Z06. it's got a 5.5" stock car clutch so I can't abuse it on ET, but pretty sure it will run 125+ mph in the traps. I have traqmate data at CMP off turn 14, and in 1100 ft down the front stretch (level) it will go from 50-124 mph. Pretty sure with 200 more ft it will A. get to 50 mph on one end, B. exceed 125 on the other. You can no imagine how fast it will wind in 1st gear with the 2.97 1st gear (very deep) and the 5.5" 8.9 lb, low interia clutch, it is brutal. Even 2nd gear is pretty wild.

 

[zach44102]

Mark that sounds like a great plan. Ill probably be bring it out in a couple weeks but i will keep you updated. Right now im doing everything i can to help my time before i go out there. Lots of more weight reduction, coil on plugs, and might try to cable the rear end to prevent weight transfer. Lets hope i can pull some fast times.

 

[zach44102]

So do you think no lift shifting helped you get there? I have never tried to no lift shift.

 

[DrivinhardLLC]

So do you think no lift shifting helped you get there? I have never tried to no lift shift.

2-3 tenths.

I do it in road racing if I am trying to reel somebody in drafting on a straight or going for it during a TT sticker tire lap.
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[SinisterSHO]

its scary the first time you do it. but a good 2-3 no lift shift is pretty f'kin awesome.

 

[zach44102]

I might try this tomorrow, i think if i can get some practice in this ill pull a 13.8 no problem. Thanks

 

[intimdatr]

i watched that about 3 times and my mouth is still open...