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[802SHO]

Small Update. Back in April I paid manufacturing costs to be a beta tester for AKD Built Performance to test their Billet viscous coupler and friction clutches for the RDU. All the parts are in and I removed my RDU, separated the top portion to be sent to AKD to reuse some internals into his Billet Viscous coupler and clutches. When that comes back I’ll reattach it to the RDU and back in the car.

It should provide up to 60% more grip to the RDU! Should substantially improve 60ft times. That and the rear end will need Jesus……going into uncharted Territory.

 

[DadMobile]

Seems like a game changer! Time for some 10s with some 1.4-1.5 60’ times?

 

[Bluezone]

Great idea. Anyone know what the size of the ring gear in the rear differential is? Seven and a half inch differentials, can with protest, handle 3 to 400 horsepower. I know 7 diffs are safe to about 200 to 250 horsepower. 6 inch differentials are good to about 150 maybe pushing to 200 HP. The seven and a half inch differential in the Mark 3 Supra could be pushed into the 450-500 horsepower range. A bit small on the pinion gear size though. All this depends of course on how heavy built the components are.

 

[802SHO]

Seems like a game changer! Time for some 10s with some 1.4-1.5 60’ times?

Who knows but wouldn’t that be awesome!

 

[802SHO]

Great idea. Anyone know what the size of the ring gear in the rear differential is? Seven and a half inch differentials, can with protest, handle 3 to 400 horsepower. I know 7 diffs are safe to about 200 to 250 horsepower. 6 inch differentials are good to about 150 maybe pushing to 200 HP. The seven and a half inch differential in the Mark 3 Supra could be pushed into the 450-500 horsepower range. A bit small on the pinion gear size though. All this depends of course on how heavy built the components are.

Well there’s one way to find out. Let’s do it and see what happens!

 

[stripSHO]

Wow that's sweet!

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

Great idea. Anyone know what the size of the ring gear in the rear differential is? Seven and a half inch differentials, can with protest, handle 3 to 400 horsepower. I know 7 diffs are safe to about 200 to 250 horsepower. 6 inch differentials are good to about 150 maybe pushing to 200 HP. The seven and a half inch differential in the Mark 3 Supra could be pushed into the 450-500 horsepower range. A bit small on the pinion gear size though. All this depends of course on how heavy built the components are.

AKD is also working on an LSD for the RDU.

I've got an older used trans I'm getting a hold of to rebuild with the new Raybestos clutches and going to send AKD the diff from the front...that would be a very big game changer

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

Small Update. Back in April I paid manufacturing costs to be a beta tester for AKD Built Performance to test their Billet viscous coupler and friction clutches for the RDU. All the parts are in and I removed my RDU, separated the top portion to be sent to AKD to reuse some internals into his Billet Viscous coupler and clutches. When that comes back I’ll reattach it to the RDU and back in the car.

It should provide up to 60% more grip to the RDU! Should substantially improve 60ft times. That and the rear end will need Jesus……going into uncharted Territory. View attachment 81532View attachment 81533View attachment 81534

Yeah!

 

[SM105K]

I would start looking for a stronger driveshaft....

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

I would start looking for a stronger driveshaft....

Yeah...these are all parts that need attention. We will start discovering new weak links here within the next few months, I'm sure...

 

[Bluezone]

I came across this.

Rear Viscous Coupler & LSD Development

Hello and good day ford enthusiasts! I have been working specially with Stephen Dunn (owner and operator of AKD built performance incorporated). He has reached out to support one of our own in support of providing a superior ITCC rear coupling for your all wheel drive differential and a Torsen li...

www.fordedgeforum.com

 

[stripSHO]

Andrew you are quickly heading to the point where you should just weld both diffs and eliminate the rdu clutch assembly altogether.

 

[yaycandy]

A different rdu wont make a difference if the controller is not being updated to enable the updated torque and whatnot. But a standalone lsd rear without electronic control would work as long as you get the fwd and rwd to still work together. Ive been around in the EVO world. Takes more than mechanical parts to make electronically controlled awd better. But i think their on to something with the lsd swap. Totally do able for a couple cars to have a total mechanical awd setup. Not something that can be marketed for sale as a bolt on afternoon electronic to mechanical swap. Its the less than 1% who dont care to tear their car completely apart for minimum 1/4 mile time drops. But that minimum time drop is all thats needed for a select few.

 

[yaycandy]

Still cant get away from the transverse engine setup. Ill help out. Find a fwd taurus. Steal its rear suspension cradle. Mount it in a sho, it will fit as one unit i already checked before. Ditch the rdu, ptu and driveshaft. Probably need it recontrolled but maybe not, its a try it and see what happens deal. You can actually heat up the tires then at the strip. Hot tires make a difference and have nearly 500lb weight reduction.

No matter what its a transverse platform, use it to its advantage

 

[802SHO]

There’s a lot of unknowns with this so it’ll be interesting how it works out. This platform’s aftermarket support is in dire need of exactly things like this.

 

[SilvererSHO]

Still cant get away from the transverse engine setup. Ill help out. Find a fwd taurus. Steal its rear suspension cradle. Mount it in a sho, it will fit as one unit i already checked before. Ditch the rdu, ptu and driveshaft. Probably need it recontrolled but maybe not, its a try it and see what happens deal. You can actually heat up the tires then at the strip. Hot tires make a difference and have nearly 500lb weight reduction.

No matter what its a transverse platform, use it to its advantage

There was someone here (or the other board) from United Arab Emirates??? a couple or years ago that did that very thing. And I don't think heating up your tires shaves off 500 lbs. Prolly only around 400 lbs. maybe.

Better yet, ditch the PTU and driveshaft and power the rear diff with a motor and get into the 9's.

 

[DadMobile]

Still cant get away from the transverse engine setup. Ill help out. Find a fwd taurus. Steal its rear suspension cradle. Mount it in a sho, it will fit as one unit i already checked before. Ditch the rdu, ptu and driveshaft. Probably need it recontrolled but maybe not, its a try it and see what happens deal. You can actually heat up the tires then at the strip. Hot tires make a difference and have nearly 500lb weight reduction.

No matter what its a transverse platform, use it to its advantage

The problem with doing a burnout with our cars is the lack of a LSD up front. You might smack wall doing a burn out in a tight track

 

[DadMobile]

Between what we have now, the AKD stuff and Raybestos we sure have some nice opportunities to push our cars to some pretty wild times with the existing drivetrain.

 

[802SHO]

Update: Matt not only cut my intake manifold in half and ported the entire thing but he also removed nearly 3/4” of the runner length. He said with shorter runners I should be able to have higher rpm peak HP. Bc of his efforts to reduce runner length I don’t see a need in utilizing the phenolic spacer and adding runner length. I really want to see what difference this makes without a phenolic spacer in the mix.

I nearly lost an opportunity here with the intake manifold in his possession, so like a last min Sally, I contacted Pro Meth and bought their direct port meth injection, you bend it 6cylinder kit with elbow fittings, and added check valves for each nozzle and a solenoid so that I have absolutely no issues under vacuum and better function. Pro Meth is currently out of nozzles, they have designed new nozzles and are experiencing manufacturing delays, since February. They directed me to purchase the old nozzles they sold, currently what Snow offers, so I bought 6 2.0GPH nozzles and will keep 1000cc pre TB. I’m going to have to contact Alky Control for a controller to the Solenoid. I can’t wait to see it installed on a Candy Purple Intake Manifold with shortened runners!

I found that a brand new OEM 13+ Fuel pump assembly (in tank) is about $140 more than my OEM 10-12 assembly. So I found a used one out of a 2015 SHO and sent that to Matt for install of the Walbro 525. The used pump assembly was about the same price as my OEM assembly at $219 shipped.

Sorry no pics yet.

 

[76FoMoCo]

Sounds like you're doing a great job addressing the fueling! Now the ptu is the elephant in the drive train!