2016 SHO

[Jnewell]

Has anyone went to stage 2 turbos with just a 93 tune? I have cold air intake, 3 bar, exhaust and thermostat. Looking for more power don't want to run meth or ethanol

 

[SeanDev]

Honest, if your upping the turbos, up the fuel. E30 is the go to for improved turbos. And of course new hpfp and lpfp.

 

[802SHO]

I was able to run upgraded turbos on the stock fuel system but I was tuned for 93+100% methonal. I don’t think you’ll get the best bang for your buck with just upgraded turbos on the stock fuel system with just 93 octane. Without a happy fuel pressure increase I’m assuming your tuner will likely not push them much more than 16psi. And bc of that it’ll probably be around the same power increase as keeping turbos stock and switching to E30. Or keeping turbos stock and adding 100% meth. The cheapest bang for your buck would be to add Meth and switch to E30 and run a mildy meth dependent tune to keep fuel pressure happy for using E30. Which really isn’t anything sketchy at all…..relying on meth is the same as relying on your 3bar. The wording really makes a difference I think…Meth dependent sounds risky….but it’s just a tune accommodating your meth injection…sounds more comforting although it’s the same thing.

Depends on your desired goal and the efficiency of how you spend your money to achieve it. I’ve never had a problem with methonal and ethanol so I highly recommend both or either one also. If you solely run E30 you should upgrade at least your HPFP for safety. If you add Meth then you automatically have extra fuel covered.

Also you should go one step colder with spark plugs gapped to .026-.028.

 

[Jnewell]

I do have the spark plugs. Thanks for all the info. This is my daily driver and idk if I want to switch to E30 l. But after listening to both of your tips seems like 400whp is out of reach for me without switching :/

 

[ridered74]

The only good reason for not switching to E30 is that it is not available. Unless you are in some remote part of Ohio you should be able to get it. Most people fear the mixing aspect, but it is much simpler than you think and well worth the minimal extra effort for the power it gives you. Throw a 200 dollar ethanol sensor and you know exactly what % you are at. My ethanol station was pretty consistent so I always used a 2 gallon 93 to 1 gallon e85 ratio when I filled up.

Definitely far greater bang for the buck than upgrading the turbos.

 

[76FoMoCo]

E30 is the best bang. Add hpfp for the e30 you will be 400+ whp. You will need the hpfp for the turbos anyway. But the power per hp curve gets a lot steeper after this for price.

 

[mccrac38]

okay so i am new to this forum but would greatly appreciate any of your guys input,
i have a 2016 sho non PP
car currently has -
.28 gapped plugs
170 thermo
3 bar map
araid CAI
EPP hot pipes and noisemaker delete
Gearhead intercooler
stainless works high flow 2.5 in downpipes
stainless works catback

car is currently running livernois tune, it runs decent but am having issues with trans temps. have any of you added the PP aux trans cooler or used aftermarket?
and also what are or who are you guys using as far as tuning goes with these bolt ons?

thanks in advance

 

[yaycandy]

You have gearhead parts, just contact them for a tune. Its a stretch, but GH trann y smoothness may make some problems ease up at least. Best to add the pp cooler and change the trann y fluid. Just doing 1 drain and fill took my high temps away.

If you add pp cooler, get oem. Aftermarket ones are cheaply made. The mount holes are threaded into the crash bar already. At least they were on my 15. And install is easy. Cut the 2 hoses and T off to the new cooler. It will still run factory ac/tranny cooler and the aux cooler

 

[76FoMoCo]

Here is a list of the faster guys along with the mods and tuners. IMO I would skip ssi and lms. try a simple drain and fill a few times on the trans. Mine runs on a normal day will be around 160* 2013 PP



Ecoboost Ford SHO 1/4 mile
11.063 @ 123.17 Andrew Bullock IN TU IC FS N2O AJP Turbo
11.089 @ 126.8 Jordan Christensen N/D
11.135 @ 126.30 Keith Dienelt IN IC FS DR METH Gearhead
11.380 @ 124.20 Jesse Scott Fleck IN EX N20 SSI
11.508 @ 120.80 Ryan Spencer IN BM TU FS METH Unleashed
11.542 @ 119.42 Mike K IN BM TU METH Livernois
11.551 @ 120.24 Jacob Lewellen IN BM DR TU FS Unleashed
11.591 @ 114.89 Ken Boyle IN EX IC FS Gearhead
11.653 @ 116.84 Eran Hildebrand IN IC FS EX METH Ortiz
11.658 @ 117.89 Chris Kazak IN EX FS METH Unleashed
11.739 @ 112.69 William Proctor METH N2O IN EX Unleashed
11.742 @ 118.82 Rich McGrath IC IN EX FS TU Gearhead
11.791 @ 118.14 Matt Skousen IC TU FS EX METH AJP Turbo
11.822 @ 116.89 John Costigan Jr. +DA N2O SU IN EX TU FS Gearhead
11.838 @ 119.92 Brian Randall IN EX IC FS AJP Turbo
11.852 @ 117.96 Shane Vigil IN IC FS EX TU METH AJP Turbo
11.854 @ 117.27 Ryt Staszek IN IC FS METH Brew City Boost
11.901 @ 119.78 Jesus Gastelum EX FS METH N2O SSi
11.912 @ 121.44 Todd Weaver BM SU IN EX FS TU LET tune
11.922 @ 115.80 Michael Fauntleroy SU IN EX FS Gearhead
11.931 @ 115.31 Tim Glaser IN IC EX FS Ortiz
11.948 @ 117.29 Tony Decristoforo IN EX FS BCB
11.954 @ 116.83 Nathan Reyes EX FS N2O SSi
11.962 @ 115.31 Daniel Johnson EX IC FS Gearhead
11.991 @ 114.28 John McAdoo IN EX DR METH Unleashed
12.009 @ 113.88 Dennis Craft FS EX IC Ortiz
12.014 @ 116.50 Scott Fleischhacker IC FS EX Gearhead
12.028 @ 115.52 Johnathan Roberts FS METH Ortiz
12.058 @ 114.35 Rich Yaklin Jr. SU IN EX FS Livernois
12.067 @ 113.72 Danny Alford EX IN Ortiz
12.114 @ 113.65 Mike Didonna METH Unleashed
12.116 @ 116.36 Dustin Martin TU METH Unleashed
12.121 @ 114.33 Will Schroeder METH Gearhead
12.147 @ 109.97 Brian Michael SU IN EX METH Livernois
12.170 @ 114.78 Daniel Johnson EX IC FS Ortiz
12.175 @ 116.26 John McAdoo EX IC METH SSi
12.181 @ 112.16 Ben McClure SU IN EX FS Gearhead
12.188 @ 113.46 Chris Le Beau EX FS METH Gearhead
12.228 @ 107.65 Jorge Roldan SU EX METH SSi
12.245 @ 112.20 Josh Kane EX METH SSi
12.253 @ 109.75 Chris Bagosy IN EX BCB
12.262 @ 112.00 Ben Binford LET METH
12.264 @ 114.38 James Laskey +DA TU IN IC FS Gearhead
BM = Built motor/swap
DR = Drag radials or better
SU = (Suspension) Coil overs / Struts / Shocks / Traction Bars / Air bags
IN = Intake
IC = Intercooler Upgrade
EX= Exhaust/Downpipes
TU = Turbo upgrade
FS = Race fuel or Upgraded system
Meth = Meth
N2O = Nitrous
WR= Weight Reduction

 

[SeanDev]

Met the owner of the only other SHO in my town at Hubler Ford couple days before Christmas, long story short, he has an LMS tune, I have a AJP tune, his 2016 at 106,000 miles is in for a tranny, mine at 48,000 was having a tranny flush. Dump the LMS tune, change the tranny fluid. Find a better tuner. Took him for a short ride in mine before it went in to service, he thought hard, clunky shifting was normal. He has now seen the light. Never belonged to a forum, I informed him and hope he at least joins this one.

 

[SeanDev]

And I hope to be on that list in a few months. Adult toys are expensive.

 

[mccrac38]

You have gearhead parts, just contact them for a tune. Its a stretch, but GH trann y smoothness may make some problems ease up at least. Best to add the pp cooler and change the trann y fluid. Just doing 1 drain and fill took my high temps away.

If you add pp cooler, get oem. Aftermarket ones are cheaply made. The mount holes are threaded into the crash bar already. At least they were on my 15. And install is easy. Cut the 2 hoses and T off to the new cooler. It will

 

[mccrac38]

thank you guys for all the input i got ahold of a guy Aaron Schwartz from Schwartz Engineered Preformance real cool guy he got me the contact info for AJPturbo so i am excited to reach out to him and get my tune straightened out and i will attach the link to aarons page who makes a bunch of cool stuff for the SHO hes getting me set up with the oem PP trans cooler kit

schwartzep.com

 

[76FoMoCo]

thank you guys for all the input i got ahold of a guy Aaron Schwartz from Schwartz Engineered Preformance real cool guy he got me the contact info for AJPturbo so i am excited to reach out to him and get my tune straightened out and i will attach the link to aarons page who makes a bunch of cool stuff for the SHO hes getting me set up with the oem PP trans cooler kit

schwartzep.com

Brad is hard to get a tune from but well worth the wait. His 93 tune is no joke! I will eat a lms meth tune all day every day.

 

[SeanDev]

I didnt see where you have upgraded your trans mounts. I highly recommend AD mounts. I wheel hopped on AJPs E30 tune. Mounts will save you a cheek puckering moment.

 

[802SHO]

For trans mounts contact Tony DiCunzolo at [email protected].

 

[mybigsho]

Great List.. Some fast sho's out there..

 

[mccrac38]

that was one of the first upgrades ive done was the trans mounts from him before i even tuned the car i wanted to be safe
but from what everyone is saying and from what i see i should beable to pick up quiet a bit just having brad tune my car compared to LMS.
best et so far is 12.58 @ 110 on lms 93 tune

car currently has
.28 plugs, 170 thermo, msd coils, upr catch can, airaid CAI, 3 bar, epp hot pipes and noisemaker delete, gearhead intercooler, dicunzolo mounts, and just recently added stainless works 2.5 catted highflow DP and the stainless works catback with the lms tune for it all
stock fuel system and turbos

 

[802SHO]

that was one of the first upgrades ive done was the trans mounts from him before i even tuned the car i wanted to be safe
but from what everyone is saying and from what i see i should beable to pick up quiet a bit just having brad tune my car compared to LMS.
best et so far is 12.58 @ 110 on lms 93 tune

car currently has
.28 plugs, 170 thermo, msd coils, upr catch can, airaid CAI, 3 bar, epp hot pipes and noisemaker delete, gearhead intercooler, dicunzolo mounts, and just recently added stainless works 2.5 catted highflow DP and the stainless works catback with the lms tune for it all
stock fuel system and turbos

Best thing I ever did was drop LMS and get tuned from AJP

 

[mccrac38]

Best thing I ever did was drop LMS and get tuned from AJP

have you lowered your car? and if so did you notice any benefits as far as better launch? and how does it ride
looking to do a few exterior mods as well
and lastly is there anyone out there who build trans for this car or is stock trans with a good cooler just fine?