PICS! Turbo Granny Car **now w/Dyno Video**

[NCTaurusSHO]

alright, here are the dyno #'s they are 347.6HP and 360TQ. The A/F is a little rich at times, but the dyno operator recommended that i not lean it out for more HP, since he had to drive it back to PA. it does have a good tune on it however, and it is safe until we get the forged pistons, which are the next step.

Solid is TQ, Dotted is HP


with the A/F ratio (top lines are boost, dotted are A/F)


there you go, i am pretty happy with the results,especially in the time we had to do it. I think it turned out well. I can't wait until i get to put a "perfect" tune on it and get the A/f just like the green one was, that was a very consistent A/F and I was ecstatic about that tune! So john, be careful, be safe, and don't break anything so we can put the low compression pistons in and turn that boost up. Oh yeah..and NO 165 MPH runs like you were talking about...our cars don't even go to 165. I think that will be my next project as well, installing the Quaife and saving up for the the low comp. pistons to put in my car as well. 500hp here i come...eventually!!!!

ashley

Edit: please don't ask me why we ran it only to 6500rpms or so, that was all up to john and what he felt would be safe for his car. thanks!

 

[shobote]

is it an estimated 15% drivetrain loss with our cars ? That would make this 400hp at the crank

 

[ManySHOs]

is it an estimated 15% drivetrain loss with our cars ? That would make this 400hp at the crank

John said that these numbers were already corrected for drivetrain loss. I would assume that he used 15%...

Ian

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

they did calibrate the dyno before we started.

ashley

 

[sho2see]

It's 3.0 with stock internals for the time being.

Sweet build guys and very FAST!!!!
So the sho can be boosted with stock internals? Basically stock pistons and stock compression?

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

it can be done as long as you are safe about the fuel mods and keep the boost below 15lbs. we did 10 on his to keep it safe.

ashley

 

[1995SHO9]

is it an estimated 15% drivetrain loss with our cars ? That would make this 400hp at the crank

yes, it would be putting out around 400hp at the crank!!

 

[Toolman]

John said that these numbers were already corrected for drivetrain loss. I would assume that he used 15%...

Ian

The dyno will correct for atmospheric conditions, which is what I assume John was meaning. Those numbers are a bit low to represent crank HP.

Sweet build guys and very FAST!!!!
So the sho can be boosted with stock internals? Basically stock pistons and stock compression?

it can be done as long as you are safe about the fuel mods and keep the boost below 15lbs. we did 10 on his to keep it safe.

ashley

A number of SHO's have seen 18+psi on stock internals, some of those cars did not even benefit from charge cooling, but sooner or later, you will start losing pistons at those levels. He should be able to run 10psi on his stock setup for a long, long time (assuming he can keep himself happy with 10psi. Boost is addictive, you always want MORE!)

 

[sho2see]

it can be done as long as you are safe about the fuel mods and keep the boost below 15lbs. we did 10 on his to keep it safe.

ashley

Thanks Ashley

The dyno will correct for atmospheric conditions, which is what I assume John was meaning. Those numbers are a bit low to represent crank HP.





A number of SHO's have seen 18+psi on stock internals, some of those cars did not even benefit from charge cooling, but sooner or later, you will start losing pistons at those levels. He should be able to run 10psi on his stock setup for a long, long time (assuming he can keep himself happy with 10psi. Boost is addictive, you always want MORE!)

Thanks Toolman good to know. This kinda tells me where i stand and what to do/get because id like to boost mine up but looking into early 2009.

 

[shomethe$$$]

Good job, does it matter what gear those are taken in? do most people do it in 2nd or 3rd gear?

 

[Kens1992mtxSHO]

Paul and Ashley's dyno runs in Carlisle were done in 4th gear.

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

Johns were also done in 4th gear... it is a 1:1 ratio in fourth. sorry i am so busy at work right this second mailing invoices out, i can't get the videos up yet, but i swear i will!! keep looking for them okay?

ashley

 

[Kens1992mtxSHO]

Come on... we've been waiting :theyareontome:

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

sorry, you guys are gonna have to wait a little longer... i have been absolutely swamped with work (it's the first of the month, billing, invoices, etc.) please accept my apologies and look forward to a video as soon as i get a chance..i promise I'll get it up ASAIC. (As Soon As I Can)..yeah you like that right..hahaha

ashley

 

[SASHO91]

What's the turbo off of? T444E? I work on Internationals all day long.
Do ya'll modify the wastegate? If you do or don't, what's the boost at in both situations. I'd like to get my hands on a VT35's turbo...

Great job so far!!!!

Bump for the wastegate question....

 

[SHOspazz92]

Ok, So when are we going to do mine?

-Sam

 

[1995SHO9]

Bump for the wastegate question....

No we did not mod the wastegate. Just turned it down as it is adjustable. I didn't care to run the 40psi that this turbo will support, on stock pistons lol.

 

[RiceeatingSHO]

No we did not mod the wastegate. Just turned it down as it is adjustable. I didn't care to run the 40psi that this turbo will support, on stock pistons lol.

But that one 3rd gear pull at 40 psi would be worth it!

 

[Troywakeling]

The dyno will correct for atmospheric conditions, which is what I assume John was meaning. Those numbers are a bit low to represent crank HP.





A number of SHO's have seen 18+psi on stock internals, some of those cars did not even benefit from charge cooling, but sooner or later, you will start losing pistons at those levels. He should be able to run 10psi on his stock setup for a long, long time (assuming he can keep himself happy with 10psi. Boost is addictive, you always want MORE!)

Good to know. Ive been pondering the idea of turboing the atx. Ill be happy with a low boost setup 7-10 psi im only looking for around 300whp. At least if everything is setup right I should only have to replace the Trans every year instead of both the Trans and Engine.

 

[SASHO91]

No we did not mod the wastegate. Just turned it down as it is adjustable. I didn't care to run the 40psi that this turbo will support, on stock pistons lol.

That turbo should hold about 15psi more than that. So, all they did was adjusted the rod length?