So what did you do to your SHO today!?

[M.J]

What does this pump offer in terms of improvement over stock? Might add to list of things changed for my build.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

It's a billet unit, but I can't honestly say that I have ever seen a set of oil pump gears fail on the Ecoboost motor. We highly recommend these on the Coyote and Cyclone engines any time nitrous or FI are introduced, because the shock to the system when you go WOT can actually cause the brittle stock units to shatter.

It's still good peace of mind, and should offer better oiling characteristics for high rpm revving, but I can't say that it's not snake oil.

 

[802SHO]

haha I was the designer of the AD Gen 2 mounts that led to Anthony seeking a new supplier since SSM said my ideas were crap, but then when Anthony left they copied the design...

No $h-it? We need you to design the top mount. Maybe it seemed unnecessary at the time, but if there’s 3 why not make all 3? And I know some only have one lower, but I believe the lower being solid it is probably leading to ruined top mounts, as the only OEM mount left untouched, it now is severely inadequate. Perhaps all of them OEM were in some sort of a “balance” but now it’s out of “balance” wearing out the top mount? My theory and I think it’s a logical guesstimate……but otherwise just seeing the top mount in person it just looks so weak, the solid mounts on the frame and trans are only connected by a bolt with rubber basically.

 

[luigisho]

I also have an appointment to get the chrome deleted and detail/ceramic coat the paint so we'll see if I get everything done in time.

What method are you using to do this? Is there one that will appear oem and last? I know plastidip is/was a diy thing but that has limited life on the very few examples I have seen over time.

 

[Bluezone]

No $h-it? We need you to design the top mount. Maybe it seemed unnecessary at the time, but if there’s 3 why not make all 3? And I know some only have one lower, but I believe the lower being solid it is probably leading to ruined top mounts, as the only OEM mount left untouched, it now is severely inadequate. Perhaps all of them OEM were in some sort of a “balance” but now it’s out of “balance” wearing out the top mount? My theory and I think it’s a logical guesstimate……but otherwise just seeing the top mount in person it just looks so weak, the solid mounts on the frame and trans are only connected by a bolt with rubber basically.

Well the top two mounts aren't all that hot to start with. Both of my top mounts were shot before I installed the AD Gen 2 mounts on my car. My car didn't even have quite 60,000 miles on it when I found out that it had happened.

 

[802SHO]

Well the top two mounts aren't all that hot to start with. Both of my top mounts were shot before I installed the AD Gen 2 mounts on my car. My car didn't even have quite 60,000 miles on it when I found out that it had happened.

Right so we need an upgraded one

 

[Ta2dResqr]

Right so we need an upgraded one

Or 2...

 

[Bluezone]

Well, Jordan_R was using an upgraded transmission upper mount for short time in his featherweight SHO. The problem he had with it though was that it raised the transmission. I wonder if using spacers between the mount and transmission bracket would put it back in alignment. It might be an idea to ask him where the mount was from. It escapes me, at the moment, what he mentioned it came from.
Just remember less suspension compliance can lead to more breakage under shock load.

 

[802SHO]

Well, Jordan_R was using an upgraded transmission upper mount for short time in his featherweight SHO. The problem he had with it though was that it raised the transmission. I wonder if using spacers between the mount and transmission bracket would put it back in alignment. It might be an idea to ask him where the mount was from. It escapes me, at the moment, what he mentioned it came from.
Just remember less suspension compliance can lead to more breakage under shock load.

It was an explorer mount I want to say 2015+ when they went changed it to hydraulic?

 

[Bluezone]

Double post

 

[Bluezone]

It was an explorer mount I want to say 2015+ when they went changed it to hydraulic?

I've looked through the catalog and it looks like it is 2015. Did he only change the transmission mount? From what I can see this mounts the transmission lower. So spacers would move the transmission further away from the stock position.

If it was teamed with the engine side mount it could even out.

EDIT. Double checked Jordan's engine removal video. Looks like he only changed the transmission side upper mount. The engine mount looks like the stock SHO mount. So might be the problem there.

 

[Substantia Nigra]

I've looked through the catalog and it looks like it is 2015. Did he only change the transmission mount? From what I can see this mounts the transmission lower. So spacers would move the transmission further away from the stock position.

If it was teamed with the engine side mount it could even out.

EDIT. Double checked Jordan's engine removal video. Looks like he only changed the transmission side upper mount. The engine mount looks like the stock SHO mount. So might be the problem there.

you could put a spacer on the trans side to make it lower, or a spacer on the mount bracket side to make it higher

 

[Bluezone]

you could put a spacer on the trans side to make it lower, or a spacer on the mount bracket side to make it higher

I was mistaken. The trans mount from the Explorer mounts the transmission lower. There's no way to put a spacer in to raise the transmission back up. The bracket that mounts to the transmission side, front frame rail, bolts in from the top and the side. So if you put a spacer between the top and the bracket, the side holes will not align.

 

[Ta2dResqr]

I was mistaken. The trans mount from the Explorer mounts the transmission lower. There's no way to put a spacer in to raise the transmission back up. The bracket that mounts to the transmission side, front frame rail, bolts in from the top and the side. So if you put a spacer between the top and the bracket, the side holes will not align.

How much lower are you talking? Can the transmission side be milled to raise it back up? Would it be too thin and need welding or a steel washer/bushing on the top?

 

[RickyRecon]

No $h-it? We need you to design the top mount. Maybe it seemed unnecessary at the time, but if there’s 3 why not make all 3? And I know some only have one lower, but I believe the lower being solid it is probably leading to ruined top mounts, as the only OEM mount left untouched, it now is severely inadequate. Perhaps all of them OEM were in some sort of a “balance” but now it’s out of “balance” wearing out the top mount? My theory and I think it’s a logical guesstimate……but otherwise just seeing the top mount in person it just looks so weak, the solid mounts on the frame and trans are only connected by a bolt with rubber basically.

I second this. Put me down for the first group order!

 

[Bluezone]

How much lower are you talking? Can the transmission side be milled to raise it back up? Would it be too thin and need welding or a steel washer/bushing on the top?

Top picture is bottom View Taurus unit and lower is the Explorer transmission mount.
The engine side mount the difference is in the bracket attaching to the passenger side frame rail. They aren't interchangeable from what I can see. The difference in that mount is the bracket attaching to the frame rail.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

What method are you using to do this? Is there one that will appear oem and last? I know plastidip is/was a diy thing but that has limited life on the very few examples I have seen over time.

Feller's (one of the top vinyl distributors in the world) is local to me, and they recommended the 3M 2080 in Matte Black so we'll see how it goes.

 

[SeanDev]

Well the top two mounts aren't all that hot to start with. Both of my top mounts were shot before I installed the AD Gen 2 mounts on my car. My car didn't even have quite 60,000 miles on it when I found out that it had happened.

Crap I'm at 57,000. Time to look at upper mount. Most of you have already been there down that, does filling in voids on upper with window weld really help or ended up being snake oil?

 

[76FoMoCo]

So after talking to my dealer there's three versions of the upper Mount there's an SEL there's a sho and there's a police version. Just a fyi

 

[Bluezone]

So after talking to my dealer there's three versions of the upper Mount there's an SEL there's a sho and there's a police version. Just a fyi

Likely the police version is for curb hopping ability. Don't want the engine braking loose when you're banging into bumps.