Mustang GT Brembos

[Matt Dylan]

I wouldn't pay for TCE either but one defining feature is that they are using bigger than oem size rotors

Well I'm a little surprised that you aren't ponying up for lighter brakes and rotors. Its like 20lbs of unsprung weight. Aren't you big into drag racing?

If you look on the tce website, you can get a 14" kit. It's not about rotor size because i can go with whatever size i want. I want a smaller rotor. This bracket would save hundreds of dollars no matter how you slice it.

 

[aaron240]

I don't agree with the people that don't like the price. I've done the math and I figure I'm probably saving close to $1000 over tce. I don't have a problem with you getting money in exchange for your innovation. Like you said, someone else can engineer brackets and bring them to market for cheaper if they want.

Matthew I appreciate the response. I could add 15” two piece rotors to my kit in theory, but as you’ve seen in this post how everyone in this platform is regarding performance parts and prices, no one would buy it.
Jordan and Andrew, you cant use a water jet to cut my 3 dimensional brake caliper bracket from a solid rectangular piece of bar stock high strength steel. Cnc machining using a mill is required and it’s a lengthy process. Also The wilwood engineers stated the amount of money it would cost to add some additional surface area by means of 15” 2 piece rotors would not justify the cost and the 14” stock rotor is more than adequate.
It honestly amazes me that there are even performance parts developed for this platform with the enthusiasts being as critical, negative and a know it all attitude as they are when new products surface.

 

[Matt Dylan]

Forever? Oh. Excuse my ignorance. I’m new to the scene

Alright well it doesn't matter how long you've been in "the scene". You and Jordan are ******** on arron for his brackets for no reason.

10-12 knuckles are not the same as 13+. Can’t remember if you need new knuckles for the brakes but if you do any 10-12 would be looking at about $300 more so about $1500 for larger calipers/pads. Oh and rotors too right? 13+ rotors and now you might as well buy WilWood

And then you post this to further discourage me from buying these brackets. If you guys did the math, its pretty easy to realize that this saves money over the ONLY competing big brake upgrade(tce).

I can't imagine why there is minimal aftermarket support when everyone is so cheap? I know its not "worth it". But its a project and projects aren't ever "worth it" if you only are talking about money.

 

[Jordan_R]

If two products are overpriced and both not worth the money does that mean the cheaper is the better option?

Well I'm a little surprised that you aren't ponying up for lighter brakes and rotors. Its like 20lbs of unsprung weight. Aren't you big into drag racing?

If you look on the tce website, you can get a 14" kit. It's not about rotor size because i can go with whatever size i want. I want a smaller rotor. This bracket would save hundreds of dollars no matter how you slice it.

Money better spent elsewhere. Exactly what I told Aaron when he wanted me to run his brake kit. Lee beat my 60-0mph test on dragy by five hundredths. I'm skeptical of all products that cost a lot that do not provide adequate proof that they are worth the money. It just ain't there.

So y'all can spend all the thousands you want to do what I can do on stock stuff all you want. Lol

 

[Matt Dylan]

I know you are new here, however....no thread is just for the OP and his car.

Lol you literally highlight the last words of a long paragraph to tell me I'm wrong. How lame. And if you read the other posts, you would realize that this post might actually end up only being for me and my car since nobody else in this thread (including you) wants to drop a $1000+ on brake upgrades.

 

[Matt Dylan]

If two products are overpriced and both not worth the money does that mean the cheaper is the better option?


Money better spent elsewhere. Exactly what I told Aaron when he wanted me to run his brake kit. Lee beat my 60-0mph test on dragy by five hundredths. I'm skeptical of all products that cost a lot that do not provide adequate proof that they are worth the money. It just ain't there.

So y'all can spend all the thousands you want to do what I can do on stock stuff all you want. Lol

Yes you've got it exactly right. If 2 products perform the same but are overpriced, that makes the cheaper product better. If his 0-60 is .05 better, what is his 1/4?

*edit: I'm tripping. I thought you wrote 0-60 because I had weight on my mind.

 

[SM105K]

If two products are overpriced and both not worth the money does that mean the cheaper is the better option?


Money better spent elsewhere. Exactly what I told Aaron when he wanted me to run his brake kit. Lee beat my 60-0mph test on dragy by five hundredths. I'm skeptical of all products that cost a lot that do not provide adequate proof that they are worth the money. It just ain't there.

So y'all can spend all the thousands you want to do what I can do on stock stuff all you want. Lol

I concur 100%. Is it great to see parts coming yes. At some of the prices....no.

 

[aaron240]

If two products are overpriced and both not worth the money does that mean the cheaper is the better option?


Money better spent elsewhere. Exactly what I told Aaron when he wanted me to run his brake kit. Lee beat my 60-0mph test on dragy by five hundredths. I'm skeptical of all products that cost a lot that do not provide adequate proof that they are worth the money. It just ain't there.

So y'all can spend all the thousands you want to do what I can do on stock stuff all you want. Lol

Jordan, I get this mod isn't your cup of tea, but is it really necessary to act the way you are? Opinions are great everyone is entitled to one, but just because yours doesn't align with the OP's project doesn't mean its cool to go on a bashing rampage.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

Yes you've got it exactly right. If 2 products perform the same but are overpriced, that makes the cheaper product better. If his 0-60 is .05 better, what is his 1/4?

*edit: I'm tripping. I thought you wrote 0-60 because I had weight on my mind.

I wish my 0-60 was 0.05 faster than Jordan. I'd be the champ haha.

For reals though, I'd love to get these brakes in more people's hands. If you want to try a set and are serious, order the brackets from @aaron240 and I'll sell you everything else you need in the 4 or 6 piston variant at my cost plus shipping just so we can get another set on the ground from someone who likely will drive much more aggressively than me and actually put these brakes to the test.

 

[aaron240]

I wish my 0-60 was 0.05 faster than Jordan. I'd be the champ haha.

For reals though, I'd love to get these brakes in more people's hands. If you want to try a set and are serious, order the brackets from @aaron240 and I'll sell you everything else you need in the 4 or 6 piston variant at my cost plus shipping just so we can get another set on the ground from someone who likely will drive much more aggressively than me and actually put these brakes to the test.

Thank you Lee, I appreciate that.

 

[SM105K]

Lol you literally highlight the last words of a long paragraph to tell me I'm wrong. How lame. And if you read the other posts, you would realize that this post might actually end up only being for me and my car since nobody else in this thread (including you) wants to drop a $1000+ on brake upgrades.

You missed the whole point of my post bro. No matter what you post on here, it will ALWAYS NEVER just be about you and your car. Every major post takes the scenic route. Also Jordon is correct. With the tests that were posted via Dragy the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Also I hope you buy whatever you buy. I will extend a real world challenge to you so the community can see actual results. We can compare my set up vs whatever set up you buy. We can use my Dragy and we can test whatever speed to zero that people want. Same street, same conditions, same time.

 

[Matt Dylan]

If two products are overpriced and both not worth the money does that mean the cheaper is the better option?


Money better spent elsewhere. Exactly what I told Aaron when he wanted me to run his brake kit. Lee beat my 60-0mph test on dragy by five hundredths. I'm skeptical of all products that cost a lot that do not provide adequate proof that they are worth the money. It just ain't there.

So y'all can spend all the thousands you want to do what I can do on stock stuff all you want. Lol

But I just thought about it and it doesn't make sense to talk about braking distance in hundredths of a second. You have to use distance. And tires are what make the most difference for a single stop. The point of me getting this upgrade is so I can roll hard in the desert all day with no brake fade.

And I'm not going to argue about whether or not "your" brakes fade. I guarantee I can make any of your guys brakes fade. Your brakes are not immune to physics.

 

[802SHO]

Alright well it doesn't matter how long you've been in "the scene". You and Jordan are ******** on arron for his brackets for no reason.
And then you post this to further discourage me from buying these brackets. If you guys did the math

Well it does mean something if I’ve been around long enough to not hear of a 10-12 SHO swapping brakes with an explorer...not that it isn’t possible...even though I’ve never heard of it..but why if you’re changing brakes a 13 SHO would work...so not sure why opting for Explorer parts would be the norm. And I’m speaking about a price point. My opinion is merely on the price. It’s not about you. And I did do the math. Buying Wilwoods makes the most sense. Although they are lighter calipers and look really nice....plenty of stuff out there that costs about the same as Aaron’s caliper setup with his brackets and doesn’t result in much performance also. Definitely buy them if that’s what you want. They look really nice on @FiveLeeter918 SHO

 

[Matt Dylan]

Well it does mean something if I’ve been around long enough to not hear of a 10-12 SHO swapping brakes with an explorer...not that it isn’t possible...even though I’ve never heard of it..but why if you’re changing brakes a 13 SHO would work...so not sure why opting for Explorer parts would be the norm. And I’m speaking about a price point. My opinion is merely on the price. It’s not about you. And I did do the math. Buying Wilwoods makes the most sense. Although they are lighter calipers and look really nice....plenty of stuff out there that costs about the same as Aaron’s caliper setup with his brackets and doesn’t result in much performance also. Definitely buy them if that’s what you want. They look really nice on @FiveLeeter918 SHO

Its my mistake for calling them explorer brakes for clarity sake.

The 2013+ sho brakes are the same as explorer HD brakes. Correct me if I'm wrong. I learned this info from this forum.

 

[802SHO]

And I'm not going to argue about whether or not "your" brakes fade. I guarantee I can make any of your guys brakes fade. Your brakes are not immune to physics.

Lol! I can appreciate that last one hahaha!

 

[802SHO]

The 2013+ sho brakes are the same as explorer HD brakes. Correct me if I'm wrong. I learned this info from this forum.

Probably something @Ecoboost_xsport taught us.

 

[SM105K]

Its my mistake for calling them explorer brakes for clarity sake.

The 2013+ sho brakes are the same as explorer HD brakes. Correct me if I'm wrong. I learned this info from this forum.

The issue is there isn't a direct bolt up replacement for a better braking system on our cars. You have to get brackets and ect.

I was really excited when these kits came out at first. However, when the performance tests came out I immediately said nope. They did not exceed to perform any where close for the price point over stock.

 

[Matt Dylan]

You missed the whole point of my post bro. No matter what you post on here, it will ALWAYS NEVER just be about you and your car. Every major post takes the scenic route. Also Jordon is correct. With the tests that were posted via Dragy the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Also I hope you buy whatever you buy. I will extend a real world challenge to you so the community can see actual results. We can compare my set up vs whatever set up you buy. We can use my Dragy and we can test whatever speed to zero that people want. Same street, same conditions, same time.

You are cluttering this thread with your shit posts. Six pages later and you still have not added anything to the conversation.

 

[Matt Dylan]

The issue is there isn't a direct bolt up replacement for a better braking system on our cars. You have to get brackets and ect.

I was really excited when these kits came out at first. However, when the performance tests came out I immediately said nope. They did not exceed to perform any where close for the price point over stock.

This is not a direct bolt up replacement? How is it not? Buy bracket. Buy brakes. Bolt up. Just another nothing post from you. Add something dude.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

The issue is there isn't a direct bolt up replacement for a better braking system on our cars. You have to get brackets and ect.

I was really excited when these kits came out at first. However, when the performance tests came out I immediately said nope. They did not exceed to perform any where close for the price point over stock.

I have failed you Anakin...