Stock? Idk. The GH IC has a pressure drop that increases your WGDC% but I forget how much.
First 2010-12 FMIC?
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FiveLeeter918
Ortiz Performance Sales
Did a 0-100 pull this morning. dump truck forced me to stop before the quarter, but should give some good data.
skyshadow07
On a mission to get below 4000lbs
SEND IT!
Hahaha Lee you sick Bird
6500rpm
Quality Always Shoots Straight
Careful young Jedi, no Vanishing Point endings...... It's been an unfortunate year for our resident gearheads already (no pund intended).
FiveLeeter918
Ortiz Performance Sales
I saw him, he was sitting in the road just pulled forward past some water and missed my mark for a clean quarter.
skyshadow07
On a mission to get below 4000lbs
Lee, I never got your log
limited02
SHO Member
I've PM'd some of you about this, but if anyone wants to run their heater on full blast while making a pull to compare to not having it on, I'd be curious to know if it makes a difference in temps as well as quicker recovery.
skyshadow07
On a mission to get below 4000lbs
What temps are you wanting, coolant? I don't think it would matter on a FMIC for IATs but I can log it.
limited02
SHO Member
Yeah, sure. Wasn't sure if our engines ever got hot enough during a pull that timing could be pulled and if so, would running the heat on full blast have any effect on minimizing its rise. Heck, compare IAT's along with it if you want because, science right?
skyshadow07
On a mission to get below 4000lbs
Baha, will do it.
I have data of new FMIC in comparison to GearHead IC.My first revision for this year commands 16 psi. I did a 3rd gear pull. I found a 16 psi log from last year with GH IC. Identical ambient temps. 57.20. What are the odds? So this is a very close comparison.
Difference is I start my log last year doing the pull at 36mph. This year I start the pull 48mph. So by 79mph I hit 51° IAT2 vs 57° ambient. In that run from last yeah GH IC...I was at 89° IAT2 at 36mph so it pulled longer WOT and hit 51° at 79mph.
This year new FMIC also 16 psi tune and also 57.20 Ambient temps I was already cooler IAT2 before I started at 71°. And bc I started the pull at 48mph WOT I had less time to drop IAT2 and I hit 51° 2 mph faster than GH at 77mph.
Is it better than GH? Not necessarily. Is it worse? Absolutely not. Is it cheaper? Yes! But it will probably do more damage than good for stock turbo guys. I assume it robs more WGDC% than GH bc of the increase in pipe length to travel and the ability to flow more air might bring in an increase to whatever the pressure drop is. We saw this with GH, it made our WGDC% increase a bit. Which is tuneable I believe....so to see the way FMIC performs after some revisions will be of interest. Also GH is direct fit, it's stealth, great for those that love the sleeper look and want to keep it that way. The FMIC required some familiarity with a sawzall! Lol! And is all flash (look at me)!
More tests need to be performed. But as far as first look it looks great. And for a comparison scenario...same ambient temp, same commanded 16 psi...couldn't ask for more. Also wanted to note its on the same road, so road conditions are also identical. On Dragy this road gives me an incline 1.74%.
I wanted to make sure it didn't underperform GH and it does not underperform. Goal met. Now let's find out what it's capable of!
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IC will be getting painted black. Original reason to bring back the all black look of my front end. Even better reason is bc it will force it to become A LOT more efficient. Crazy just by painting it Black!! Mighty Car Mods did this test, extensive measuring of heat across IC, heat soaking it and also adding air flow. Started off with a nice shiny IC...got all their data...then painted it black. Just by painting it black it reduced temps on the outlet side by a staggering 40°! This is also without airflow. So at the track waiting in the staging lanes....this is a HUGE BENEFIT!!!
GH IC being black isnt by mistake. I'd say my new IC black will actually be a lot better than GH since with it silver its marginally better already.
GH IC being black isnt by mistake. I'd say my new IC black will actually be a lot better than GH since with it silver its marginally better already.
GotGrip?
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I saw this too! Still debating going painted because I just love the look lol. Thought about doing the back half black for dispersion but keeping the front unfinished for a little better efficiency. Not sure if it will actually work better that way, I'm just having a hard time making a choice
I would do it bc you'll get cooler IAT2 temps. Your IC flows more air than GearHead but yours is silver. So you have more airflow going for you...if you make yours black it should work better than GearHead. I never knew this stuff. I thought the GH IC black was just whatever! Could you imagine a GH IC silver...wouldn't work as well, especially since it doesn't get direct airflow....where Black really shines when there isn't direct airflow.
Anyway I'll do it and report back. Alignment is next Wed...so after that she's getting the business and I'll do another log.
Ecoboost_xsport
SHO Member
Wow! I actually never knew this. I also love the look of a large, silver, menacing IC hanging off the front end of the car, but looks like I'll forever be doing my ICs in black going forward.
One question. Since it seems that it is most effective when not moving (no airflow), how effective is it truly, when the radiator fan kicks on (changing the heat emitted from radiant to convected)? Especially since many IC applications stack them either in front or behind th radiator. With that fan airflow, does it then cancel out that effectiveness? I'm just curious....I think a similar real world test with the IC actually on a car both black and silver would give us better numbers.
Although I think it will still be better results with it painted black..
skyshadow07
On a mission to get below 4000lbs
Ecoboost hit it on the head, radiant vs convected heat.
Well so two opposing opinions sounds like will have to find out lol! But I thought the 40° colder temp without air flow sounded like a big benefit for heat soak...also thought the black IC cooled 97° cooler from its already 40° head start. Why would flowing air through it heat it up? That doesn't make any sense.
So I could cool my beer on the outlet side...when its not moving ....and cook and egg on it when its getting air? Interesting hahahahahaha
Ecoboost_xsport
SHO Member
Dammit! Now I WON'T be painting my IC black....LOL. ugh! Science. Guess more testing may be needed, but after more thought about it, the real world application of painting the IC black sounds more and more like it's not as effective as it's initially portrayed in the MCM video.
On a side note, this is a perfect example of how easy it is to influence people using media (whether intentional or not), taking facts and making them fit a particular narrative. Even people who feel they are unable to be easily influenced can be....influenced, lol.
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