LMS T460 gains big power while resolving other concerns!

[luigisho]

 

[Jordan_R]

I am on the road so I don't have time for a big response but it's the fact that LMS tunes are so fat with the boost that they deplete the OEM hpfp. I.e. so fat you go lean on the v11

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Actually already did chime in there as well as reached out to the customer last night with no answer, we can not fix a problem without the customer responding which is why i chimed in asking if we could get some help getting in contact with the customer, last time we spoke we were given a phone number to call and speak with someone on the pump and they never answered, andy left them a voicemail and never heard back. We definitely would love to help fix this for the customer but have to be able to make contact to do so..I personally reached out after hours with no response last night attempting to help solve the issue by finding a good date and time to speak to the customer

 

[SM105K]

Just another mark on you LMS........

I find your timing for a couple posts interesting as well.

 

[SM105K]

Mike, don't respond to stripSHO anymore. He clearly once again has zero idea what he is talking about. It becomes clearer each time he posts.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I think everyone here is missing the big point about this thread. This was just to let customers who have our device know that there is a tune that fixes previous issues and concerns, this is not meant to be a battle ground which it is turning into, please refrain from the back and forths so we can stay on focus with the main post, thank you

 

[stripSHO]

Thanks for involving me in your ranting tirade of a reply there stripSHO.

Since you cited me in your reply to SM105k, I'm guessing you failed to read over my thread on the debacle that unfolded with Livercrap.

Or the resulting evidence I posted therein.

To be clear, I specifically asked DM if he wanted me to trailer my car to him, or have him write me a temporary file in order to drive it up there. He disregarded my offer to trailer it, and subsequently wrote me a temporary file in order to do so.

As I stated in my failure thread, I was elated at the temp file DM wrote, as I achieved the highest MPG in ever owning the car. No CEL's. No stumbles. No misfires. Ran like a champ.

There was never any excessive fueling and this was shown in the thread as well.

Alas however, I digress. No need to rehash old stories, and I am certainly letting my own dollars do the talking now. Having chosen (quite wisely at that) to have moved forward and distanced myself from that vendor I formerly used.

Please, carry on your back n forth banter with SM105k. Have a nice day there strip.



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First Mike let me say that I mean no disrespect to you whatsoever. You're a privilege to have here and your value to the community is unquestionable. But let's face the facts, your experience marked a hard pivot in the demeanor of this forum, where any LMS customer is shunned by you know who as soon as they arrive here.

Yes I've read all the gory details of the fiasco, both here and at ebperformance. Very detailed writeup, with lots of both great and cockamamie analysis from the peanut gallery. Apparently I missed the trailer part, and I won't argue whether LMS or any other vendor should bear the ultimate responsibility for how you choose to deliver . I think everyone would agree it was an overall awful losing situation for all parties involved that appears from my keyboard quarterback position could have been entirely avoidable.

I'm also not trying to deny or dismiss any legitimate grievances against Livernois. They do need to be shared, in an appropriate manner. I live in SE Michigan and I worked at Milan for 7 years of my life, so I've seen my share of Livernois triumphs and failures. It's all a part of motorsport.

My simple issue is with the one toxic loser here who's apparent sole purpose for existing is to try and chase people away from this site if they don't immediately point their pitchfork at LMS upon his command.

Have a good one man, and stay safe out there.

 

[Jordan_R]

Cringe

 

[bpd1151]

I think everyone would agree it was an overall awful losing situation for all parties involved that appears from my keyboard quarterback position could have been entirely avoidable.

Have a good one man, and stay safe out there.

Agreed. Wholeheartedly. And yes, it could have (been avoided). But it wasn't.

I believe that's the resonating issue so many have with them.

Again, for me personally, water under the bridge.

The phoenix will rise once again, and plenty of new platform 1st's are growing out of its resurgence. I look forward to sharing new products and new records with the community once again.

All in due time. Carry on and thanks for the well wishes on being safe. Getting tougher and tougher everyday in my line of work. Tough times for all involved.

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[SM105K]

I think everyone here is missing the big point about this thread. This was just to let customers who have our device know that there is a tune that fixes previous issues and concerns, this is not meant to be a battle ground which it is turning into, please refrain from the back and forths so we can stay on focus with the main post, thank you

Sorry bud, you have zero say about this post. As of matter of fact, I have a couple more questions for you.

Per this thread......

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,10397.0.html

The owner stated LMS had installed his HPFP on another customers car, to verify it worked (or not). They claimed it did work properly.

So the real question that begs to be asked, did LMS install a (now determined to be) defunct HPFP onto another customer's car for testing purposes? That pump was tested by third party and deemed defunct.

Did that customer authorize that? Does that customer even know? Also, don't you have a SHO owned by an employee (that has never gotten preferred treatment....lol)?

Also there was a delay in returning the fuel pump from the owner from LMS.

It seems LMS also kept his HPFP for just long enough to return to him, where it just got out of warranty (by like one week) and they did nothing for him, citing the expired warranty.

Does that even sound like the proper protocol to diagnose an issue? Especially one coming from a company that claims to have multi millions of dollars worth of specialized equipment to help fabricate things??

 

[stripSHO]

Mike, don't respond to stripSHO anymore. He clearly once again has zero idea what he is talking about. It becomes clearer each time he posts.

Feel free to factually discredit anything I said regarding required fuel masses, or your demonstrable inability to perform the most basic log interpretations . I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU smart guy! Show us just how learnt you is. I'll be holding my breath for sure.

 

[SM105K]

Feel free to factually discredit anything I said regarding required fuel masses, or your demonstrable inability to perform the most basic log interpretations . I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU smart guy! Show us just how learnt you is. I'll be holding my breath for sure.

Mike already discredited your post. Just stop and go away.

 

[stripSHO]

You know, I tried to make the rules real clear and simple last time. All Fido has to do is stop ******* all over my carpet and it won't get its nose rubbed in it ever again. Until then the housebreaking will continue. This mutt's a dumb one so who knows how long it will take.

 

[SM105K]

You know, I tried to make the rules real clear and simple last time. All Fido has to do is stop ******* all over my carpet and it won't get its nose rubbed in it ever again. Until then the housebreaking will continue. This mutt's a dumb one so who knows how long it will take.

Like I said, your posts do all the talking. You clearly just don't understand. The best part is you bring in other members (maliciously) that also discredit you, but we are the ones that are "dumb". Like I said, just stop, and go away.

 

[StealBlueSho]

I am on the road so I don't have time for a big response but it's the fact that LMS tunes are so fat with the boost that they deplete the OEM hpfp. I.e. so fat you go lean on the v11

This is wrong. You still maintain target lambda, the fuel pressure bottoms out and the ecu cuts throttle before you actually have a lean condition....

And technically... they do run a leaner mixture than stock...

And if you want to fight me on this I will be more than happy to post datalogs showing all this.

But at the end of the day, it’s poor tuning that causes the problem... the way the v11 tune is configured causes low rail pressure issues at the load they are commanding with the target lambda... it’s just a dorked tune....

Their response to it was the problem.

 

[stripSHO]

Like I said, your posts do all the talking. You clearly just don't understand. The best part is you bring in other members (maliciously) that also discredit you, but we are the ones that are "dumb". Like I said, just stop, and go away.

Lol what parallel dimension are you living in?

Oh I get it, you're doing like you do every time you get called out for knowing jack about something but knowing it to the fullest. You relentlessly deflect with logical fallacies rather than face the music head on. That way a month later you can claim the little side arguments you had with yourself as victories on your little scoreboard you keep. I like what you've done there by simultaneously applying a false appeal to authority to a strawman in one fell swoop.

Now c'mon, smartass! I'm almost passing out over here! You're the one trying so hard to convince everyone that your stock hpfp can move ALL the ethanol in the world. I'm stating as fact that your whole thought process on the limits of the factory pump used to throw these hefty allegations against a company is solely the product of your own incompetence in the subject and that everyone here is dumber for having read it. Now, are you able to back your talk up with the hard numbers or is it finally time to stop your barking, tuck your tail between your legs, and go scratch at the door? I mean, I already know you can't do it but it would be hilarious to watch you try.

It's too funny how Johnny-on-the-spot you are when you need to dig up a link to smear someone else but you can't muster up even any basic attempt to defend yourself when it's your own ignorant claims under scrutiny

 

[Jordan_R]

This is wrong. You still maintain target lambda, the fuel pressure bottoms out and the ecu cuts throttle before you actually have a lean condition....

And technically... they do run a leaner mixture than stock...

And if you want to fight me on this I will be more than happy to post datalogs showing all this.

But at the end of the day, it’s poor tuning that causes the problem... the way the v11 tune is configured causes low rail pressure issues at the load they are commanding with the target lambda... it’s just a dorked tune....

Their response to it was the problem.

I don't know you have to assume everybody wants to fight you on stuff but my only rebuttal for you will be Matt's words and not my own.

"start time is set and you only have 720 degrees do to something with the fuel.... once you exceed that you put fuel in so late it just comes out of the exhaust and makes it look rich but it is really lean"

What happens when fuel rail pressure dips. Afr "looks" good but what your actually doing is pouring fuel after combustion has already happened. So in a log everything will look peachy until it's not

 

[High on Ethanol]

I still believe the root of the problem is the platform was designed to never be modified. It's time for a full on power train swap with a tube chassis! **** yeah brother

 

[SM105K]

I still believe the root of the problem is the platform was designed to never be modified. It's time for a full on power train swap with a tube chassis! **** yeah brother

The more you post, the more I like you.

 

[SM105K]

Lol what parallel dimension are you living in?

Oh I get it, you're doing like you do every time you get called out for knowing jack about something but knowing it to the fullest. You relentlessly deflect with logical fallacies rather than face the music head on. That way a month later you can claim the little side arguments you had with yourself as victories on your little scoreboard you keep. I like what you've done there by simultaneously applying a false appeal to authority to a strawman in one fell swoop.

Now c'mon, smartass! I'm almost passing out over here! You're the one trying so hard to convince everyone that your stock hpfp can move ALL the ethanol in the world. I'm stating as fact that your whole thought process on the limits of the factory pump used to throw these hefty allegations against a company is solely the product of your own incompetence in the subject and that everyone here is dumber for having read it. Now, are you able to back your talk up with the hard numbers or is it finally time to stop your barking, tuck your tail between your legs, and go scratch at the door? I mean, I already know you can't do it but it would be hilarious to watch you try.

It's too funny how Johnny-on-the-spot you are when you need to dig up a link to smear someone else but you can't muster up even any basic attempt to defend yourself when it's your own ignorant claims under scrutiny

I already made my claims with facts. I am done with you son. Go to your room.