Higher Mileage SHO

[orange57]

Hey Guys,

So I'm a newb, and debating on picking up a SHO. Currently my daily is a 2000 Tahoe that has around 205k miles on it. But I'm wanting something a little newer with some modern features, and something I don't have to worry too much about.

I'm also looking for something with a little bit of performance. In which I kind of stumbled into the SHO and have been looking into them. Seems a lot of people recommend trying to find a 13 plus performance package, which, I agree, seems it would be nice.

But, there is a higher mileage one with ~150k miles on it for a pretty good price. Normally, higher miles don't scare me too much, I mean, I bought my Tahoe with 145K miles on it.

How does the SHO handle higher mileage. Is it good for 200k without too much trouble? Or would I be looking at another car payment in repair bills?

Thanks,

Matt

 

[SM105K]

Spend the money and get a lower milage one. You will thank us later. Lots of info below...

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/

 

[SHOdded]

Welcome! You did not say what MY this SHO is. What is the average mileage per year? Sounds awfully like they were out of extended warranty and/or did not want to do the services that come up at this time - transmission/coolant/etc (Ford intervals, not ours).

Best to set yourself up with a Carfax account to see service history if CF is not provided free. And ideally, detailed maintenance records to go with. Higher mileage is not the worry. Maintenance and upkeep are. There are telltale signs of what repairs may be coming up, and you can negotiate the price down if you see evidence of such.

 

[orange57]

Thanks Guys.

SM105K, I'm also in the AZ area. Hence the Performance Package with the additional coolers definitely appeals to me.

I read through the first post on the thread you shared, will go through it more this evening. I'm an avid DIYer, and the maintenance you listed of fluid changes in have always done when getting a car, whether from private party or a dealer.

SHOdded, the one I saw was a 2010.

I know of like the interior a little more on the 10-12 MY cars. But the 13+ is growing on me.

Ideally, I want to find one with less than 100k on it. Just need to be patient

 

[SM105K]

Thanks Guys.

SM105K, I'm also in the AZ area. Hence the Performance Package with the additional coolers definitely appeals to me.

I read through the first post on the thread you shared, will go through it more this evening. I'm an avid DIYer, and the maintenance you listed of fluid changes in have always done when getting a car, whether from private party or a dealer.

SHOdded, the one I saw was a 2010.

I know of like the interior a little more on the 10-12 MY cars. But the 13+ is growing on me.

Ideally, I want to find one with less than 100k on it. Just need to be patient

Be willing to travel. I bought mine in California. The PP car is way to go. Also, if you are OCD, DO NOT GET A BLACK SHO! I am usually at the Pavs on Saturday with my SHO trolling the mustang guys. I am in the process of some exterior upgrades so my SHO wont be out for at least a week. Everything I do to my car is chronicled in that thread.

 

[orange57]

I have some personal and work travel coming up and have been looking in those areas.

I definitely don't want black. My Tahoe is black. Or at least was before 20years of AZ sun took it's toll

 

[SM105K]

I have some personal and work travel coming up and have been looking in those areas.

I definitely don't want black. My Tahoe is black. Or at least was before 20years of AZ sun took it's toll

If you can find a silver one....they look amazing.

 

[Jeff2017]

If the turbos have been recently replaced along with the timing chain and related components as well as water pump then it might be ok.

 

[orange57]

If the turbos have been recently replaced along with the timing chain and related components as well as water pump then it might be ok.

Is the timing chain a wear item? Do the turbos go out around 150k?

I'm a Saab guy, not uncommon to see200k + on the engine with original turbo. My current project has 160k on it.

 

[orange57]

If you can find a silver one....they look amazing.

There is a really good looking blue one in Mississippi near where I travel that caught my eye

 

[SHOdded]

I consider the timing chain and water pump a maintenance item, yes, especially on higher mileage SHOs that are "new to you". Especially if you get a P0016 code. So be sure to read codes on any SHO you are contemplating buying, P1000 should not be set and no powertrain related codes should be set. P1000 would mean the PCM was recently reset, which could hide anomalies. OBD II adapter + Forscan Lite is a good toolkit for this purpose.

There is no set mileage for turbos to go out, but they will go out at some point. Even on well maintained SHOs. Such is the nature of forced induction. To see where a SHO is potentially at in the lifecycle, you would need to see if there is pooling oil in the piping to/from the turbos, especially FROM the turbos. A pre-purchase inspection if allowed is ideal.

Always get a warranty with purchase. If dealer, the warranty should be at a minimum 30 days so you can get the car inspection done independently and raise issues under warranty. Warranty should cover fully at a minimum powertrain/emissions. If you do a private sale, the seller should have extensive maintenance records.

Lower mileage SHOs will have the added benefit of you being able to purchase a Ford Protect PremiumCare warranty. Pricing may seem outrageous, but unless you really are a DIY'r, it is well worth it.

Walking away can be hard sometimes, but is an essential car buying survival skill, new car or not.

 

[sho1993green]

I consider the timing chain and water pump a maintenance item, yes, especially on higher mileage SHOs that are "new to you". Especially if you get a P0016 code. So be sure to read codes on any SHO you are contemplating buying, P1000 should not be set and no powertrain related codes should be set. P1000 would mean the PCM was recently reset, which could hide anomalies. OBD II adapter + Forscan Lite is a good toolkit for this purpose.

There is no set mileage for turbos to go out, but they will go out at some point. Even on well maintained SHOs. Such is the nature of forced induction. To see where a SHO is potentially at in the lifecycle, you would need to see if there is pooling oil in the piping to/from the turbos, especially FROM the turbos. A pre-purchase inspection if allowed is ideal.

Always get a warranty with purchase. If dealer, the warranty should be at a minimum 30 days so you can get the car inspection done independently and raise issues under warranty. Warranty should cover fully at a minimum powertrain/emissions. If you do a private sale, the seller should have extensive maintenance records.

Lower mileage SHOs will have the added benefit of you being able to purchase a Ford Protect PremiumCare warranty. Pricing may seem outrageous, but unless you really are a DIY'r, it is well worth it.

Walking away can be hard sometimes, but is an essential car buying survival skill, new car or not.

Thanks for this, I'm looking at a 2015 PP with 44k miles. The carfax showed a turbo was replaced at 30k miles. So I called to get a quote on the ford protect plan, 4 years 75k additional miles was $3500. And would be a $186 a month payment. Always wanted one of these cars (first car was a 1993 MTX SHO) but all the all turbo parts, etc are concerning. Still on the fence on if I want to take the risk. It would **** me off if the turbos went after the extended warranty expired.

 

[SM105K]

Thanks for this, I'm looking at a 2015 PP with 44k miles. The carfax showed a turbo was replaced at 30k miles. So I called to get a quote on the ford protect plan, 4 years 75k additional miles was $3500. And would be a $186 a month payment. Always wanted one of these cars (first car was a 1993 MTX SHO) but all the all turbo parts, etc are concerning. Still on the fence on if I want to take the risk. It would **** me off if the turbos went after the extended warranty expired.

That can happen with any turbo car.

 

[jman1200]

If the turbos have been recently replaced along with the timing chain and related components as well as water pump then it might be ok.

And this is exactly why I bought mine with 180k km (112k miles). Turbos, timing chain, water pump and some other parts had been recently replaced. No issues 1.5 years later... knock on wood !

 

[sho1993green]

That can happen with any turbo car.

Hmmm, kind of why I picked up a 2016 Charger R/T for my weekend car / my lady's commuter car (5 miles round trip). But my work vehicle, a 2013 Taurus Limited has 175k miles needs to be replaced soon, my mind says a Camry but my heart says SHO. But I love my current Taurus, most comfortable car I've ever driven. My only complaint about my Taurus is how fast it eats tires, the odd and expensive tire size and how poor it is in the snow (when I lived up north). I guess maybe I just opt for a newer Taurus with 20s and a NA engine.

 

[SM105K]

I wouldn't. For how cheap newer lower mileage SHO are going for, it was a no brainer for me. If you are willing to travel then you really open the possibilities. Bet you could find a 14/15 with 40k miles with less then 23K.

 

[SM105K]

Here are just SHO's within 500 miles of Albany......and the prices are damn good.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inven...O+AWD&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true

 

[Lostneye]

That can happen with any turbo car.

To me turbos are a wear item. It's not a if it's when, thats with any turbo car.

Hmmm, kind of why I picked up a 2016 Charger R/T for my weekend car / my lady's commuter car (5 miles round trip). But my work vehicle, a 2013 Taurus Limited has 175k miles needs to be replaced soon, my mind says a Camry but my heart says SHO. But I love my current Taurus, most comfortable car I've ever driven. My only complaint about my Taurus is how fast it eats tires, the odd and expensive tire size and how poor it is in the snow (when I lived up north). I guess maybe I just opt for a newer Taurus with 20s and a NA engine.

The SHO is a beast in the snow

 

[sho1993green]

Here are just SHO's within 500 miles of Albany......and the prices are damn good.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inven...O+AWD&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true

This is what I'm looking at

 

[SM105K]

This is what I'm looking at

That isn't a bad price. Just make sure it is what they say it is.