SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread

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  1. SM105K

    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    Going to turn this into my ownership thread/mods/general maintenance/future mod thread.

    Bought my 2013 PP SHO in May of 2018 with 54K on her. Car was bone stock, and owned by a 65 year old lady that bought it brand new. She traded it in on a 2018 GT 350.

    I took purchase and immediately started modifying the car. This is everything so far.

    Exterior: Tint, Rear End Leveled (Yes I cut the springs, they have since been replaced with H&R Springs), Full Paint Correction, Car Pro Ceramic Coat, Car Pro Gliss Top Coat, Trunk De-badged, Devires "Turbo Bull" Stickers Over Ford Emblems. Next Up: Color match all chrome trim pieces.

    Performance: AJPTurbo E30 Tune on a LiveWire TS (391 Hp and 470 TQ), Gearhead Upgraded Intercooler, 542 Plugs, K&N Drop In (stock air box), Vented BOV's, H&R Springs, Powerstop Rotors and Pads.

    Maintenance: PTU fluid was changed at 60K miles I went with Mobil One Gear Oil. This was replaced at 68K miles with Redline. RDU Fluid was replaced at 68K miles with Redline. Brake Fluid Flush (mine was red). Coolant and new T-Stat replaced at 69.5K miles. I change my oil every 3K miles religiously with Mobil One (buy it at Walmart, it is dirt cheap). O2's sensors changed at 69.5K miles.

    Misc Mods: Forscan hacked the Navigation System (turned it on), Added the Intelligent AWD Gauge.

    Future Plans: Turbo Replacement, HPFP, 20x9.5 Wheel and 275 Tire Combo, DP's with third cat replacement will round out the car.

    Trans Failure: At 68,xxx miles my trans failed.

    Trans Failure Update: After inspection, the snap ring on the 3-5-R drum decided to exit stage left. It failed and wiped out the trans. The good thing is there was not a wave disc failure. However, I am getting a new unit.

    New Trans Update: New trans is in the car. $4887.13 out the door with a 3 year/unlimited mileage warranty from Ford. Also, the trans shop was nice enough to change out the PTU and RDU fluids with Redline Lightweight Shockproof Fluid at 68,900 miles.

    At 70K miles I will follow this schedule until the car leaves my life. Mine is going to be a severe duty fluid cycle/change routine. Not a daily, but it has a E30 tune and will be driven VERY spirited as much as I can. Phoenix's heat wreaks havoc on cars and fluids, so an severe duty maintenance plans keep my mind at ease.

    Oil and Trans Fluids will be changed at the same time, along with the PTU and RDU.

    Oil: every 3k miles (Mobil 1 with either a Motorcraft or Mobil 1 filter)
    Trans Fluid: every 3k miles 5 quarts out, 5 new quarts in. (Mercon LV)
    Brake Fluid: every 10K miles. Changed at 69K
    PTU Fluid: every 15k miles (Redline Lightweight Shockproof Fluid) Changed at 69K.
    RDU Fluid: every 15k miles (Redline Lightweight Shockproof Fluid) Changed at 69K
    Coolant: Every Summer 40/60 blend and Winter 60/40 blend. T-Stat: Yearly. Changed at 69.5K

    This may seem over kill however it is not really expensive. I buy my oil and filter from Walmart. Mobil 1 is dirt cheap. Usually less then 40 bucks. A case of Mercon LV is pretty cheap on Amazon (68 bucks). Redline is cheap (18 bucks on Amazon for quart bottles).


    On to the GOALS tune only!

    I have a couple of goals I want to hit tune only. Tune only meaning stock intake and full stock exhaust, (K&N Drop In, Plugs, and AJPTurbo E30 tune)


    Goal #1: I want to break into the 12's full weight with a quarter tank of gas. I went 13.082 at 109.42. Sixty foot was a terrible 1.98. Temp was 92 degrees, and the DA was 4002.2 feet. My IAT's were in the 170's so it was hot. First time at the track, so trying to get her to launch in boost without pushing was a struggle for me. I will figure that it out, that was on me. Once the temp comes down, and we can getting the timing that is being pulled back, I realistically see a 12.7/12.8? What do you think? Goal: 12.7/12.8 @ 110 (tune only)


    Goal Update: She went 12.85 at 105.47 in 3700 feet D.A. in 96 degree heat.


    New hotter tune has gone in. Running 91 octane with Torco T85 mix for E30. I have a new number in my head. Sub 12.50 at 110.


    Goal Update: Track was trash, numerous oil downs. D.A. was 2900 feet and the temp was 78 degrees. Ending up running a 12.61 @109.23. Best MPH was 111.78 with a 12.66.

    Still warm with crap D.A. Still not leaving like I want it too. Once it gets "cold here" I will try again.

    Goal Update: Back to the track. Track was good, 58 degrees, 1200 D.A, Ended up running a 12.56 @108.98. With the new brakes, I was able to leave on 1 PSI of boost and she 60 footed 1.777! I did have an issue with a boost reference hose that was creating a boost leak. I will post all about it in here if you scroll down.

    Goal #2: I want to see if I can crack 400 awhp (tune only maybe if I have to use C20). I went to the dyno and in 105 degree heat with IAT's in the 170's again she cranked out 366 hp and 414 tq to the tires. Brad has even said, he has never see air temps that high in any other tune he was written. So in 60 degree air, timing that is being pulled, and maybe more boost (if Brad says its okay) do you think 400awhp is attainable?

    I WAS NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN THIS GOAL.



    First Dyno Session: 366 HP and 414 TQ 105 degree heat on pump E30 tune.


    Update: 391 HP and 470 TQ on 91 octane with Torco T85 E30 mix in 90 degree heat. Just came up short. I am extremely happy with the results. Once again when it gets cooler I will strap her to the dyno and crack that 4oo AHWP tune only mark.

    Since my SHO is starting down the road of bolt ons I want to adjust the goals.

    New Bolt On Goals

    Bolt On Track Goal #1: I want to run in the 11's at full weight with a quarter tank of fuel at all times. That means zero weight reduction! My car has already cut a 1.77 sixty foot tune only! That should get better with the H&R springs and bolt on's in the future.

    Update: Went back to the dyno. She cranked out 388 hp and 468 tq again. I am having boost issues. So I will delve into them over the next couple of weeks.

    Update: Seems the turbos are tired and the new IC has made it worse. Looking into replacing the stock turbos with new units or rebuild them with billet wheels.


    Bolt On Power Goal #2: I want to crack 440 awhp and 530 tq with my AJPTurbo E30 tune, GH Intercooler, new turbos, and PPE Catless DP's. Further down the road I will install the Upgraded HPFP.



    Just food for thought.
     

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  2. xFallenxCripplex

    xFallenxCripplex SHO Member

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    What creates those spikes on the Dyno graph?

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  3. SM105K

    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    From I can see, there was no smoothing for the graph.

    I am updating this post for PTU maintance as well.

    If you have a 2013+ PP this is the easiest way to change the fluid.

    What I did, what I used, and how I did it. You can do it yourself, or you can have a shop do this.

    I would buy some Redline Lightweight Shockproof fluid off Amazon, 2 and a half feet of 1/4 id rubber fuel hose, some aluminum foil, and this thread to them below.

    https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8081.msg144207.html#msg144207

    I would bring aluminum foil to cover the downpipes and 02 sensor. Drain the PTU fluid and have them catch the fluid in a pan. Measure to see how much comes out, and the how bad shape the fluid is in. See if there are any chunkies in the fluid. Metal shavings on the magnet drain plug are normal. It is a direct gear drive system with the PTU. The aluminum foil will protect everything and clean up will be a snap. Clean and re-install the drain plug.

    Route the hose down from near the brake booster. Then tell them to remove vent hose from the top of the PTU and slip that 1/4 inch fuel line hose onto the vent nipple. The hose will be snug and should not slip off. Use that to fill refill the PTU with fluid. This will take some time. The PTU holds roughly 18 oz of fluid. Remove the hose, put the PTU vent hose back on. It's that simple. Should take less then an hour.

    YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE THE EXHAUST REMOVED IF YOU HAVE A PP CAR.
     
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  4. limited02

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    I believe Brad has made a touch over 400hp on his on SHO that he had, so I'd say it's doable for you in the right conditions. Without a doubt though, you'll get a 12.7 as you sit because that DA is a real killer!
     
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    It was hot and the DA was terrible. I need to shallow stage the car and find that sweet spot so she doesn't push.
     
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    With that mph 12.7s should be possible, just need some cooler air.
     
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    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    I agree, if I can get the car in the 1.80's sixty foot, she should click off at least a 12.80.
     
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    Well, John Blue on youtube has tuned his 2017 to 389HP and 480ftlb @ wheels with a livernois 93 octane tune, 3 bar, thermostat, plugs, catless DP's, Livernois exhaust and cold air intake. So it is doable but the exhaust side needs to be opened up. TQ is what you want anyway. HP is just for top speed and you cannot use that anyway unless you want to go to jail.
     
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    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    I talk to John, I have been watching his channel since day one. I wish my TQ was up, but heat, hight IAT's (which pull timing), and terrible DA are factors to track times and dyno pulls. I am going to take a run at 400 awhp with a tune only. Cooler air, more timing, more boost, might not get me there...but it will get me closer.

    I might head to the track on Saturday. I will check the DA a couple of hours before, and if it is in the low 3000 I will hop in the car and let her eat.
     
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    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    Went to the track, got to her to leave better than before. 93 degrees 3900 DA. Maybe I will run a bracket race league? Could only get her to leave at around 2 psi of boost at the track before she started pushing. On the street she gets it with almost 5 psi on the launch...so I will start tinkering. Number: 122

    Check one off the box. Excited to see what she does when it gets colder. I expect a 12.50 now.
     

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    Awesome!!! I'd say 12.5's are doable after a pass like that in those conditions.
     
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    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    I certainly think it is doable now.
     
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    I am trying for 400 whp on mine as well, but just shy of it. Not sure if I want to push for that last 10 hp though lol
     
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    John, what do you have to get to 390?
    Did I see that you have down pipes, plugs, 3 bar, tstat and tune? What fuel are you using?

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    That mod list is pretty accurate for what I have. Full exhaust system and intake as well. I run 93 octane currently.
     
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    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    He comes out of hiding! HA!
     
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    Have you been on a dyno to get those numbers, I'm in Arkansas and I'm told there isn't an awd dyno in the entire state. What do you think of the new aFE? Intake that claims to make extra hp in our cars?

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    I updated the goals. Hopefully tomorrow we should see some cool stuff.
     
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    SM105K Land Yacht Pilot Supporting Member

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    First post updated.

    New Numbers:

    12.61 @ 109.23
    391HP and 470TQ
     
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    Sooooo close!
     
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