No More A/C for Me

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I was on a short overnight road trip (up to starved rock) the weekend before last, and about half way there with the A/C on all the vents start blowing hot air. I tried shutting the system off and turning back on and no luck. The next morning I come out and start the car and it barley wants to start, but finally dose. I thought for sure that it was time to replace the battery as I have read about a few other 2010 needing batteries. When I got back home I tested the battery and everything checked out fine and the car was starting with no problems until the next morning after sitting all night.

Based on this and no A/C I assumed it must be a compressor problem and made an appointment with my local ford dealer in Frankfort and dropped the car off on Wednesday evening. I get a call Thursday around 5:30 saying they don’t yet have a definitive cause and want to keep the car another day, in other words they haven’t looked at it yet (this dealer is always slow). Finally on Friday my rep calls and confirms that the compressor had completely failed, and as a result there is metal in the system. He quotes me $3,525.50 plus tax!!! To repair the system which included A/C dye, Compressor, Condenser, Evaporator, Lines with mufflers, Accumulator, O-rings, Evac and recharge. I have a few cars in my family now that cost less than that. My rep recommends I call ford customer service to see if there is anything they can do to help as I am out of warranty at 41K miles. As expected they say there is nothing they can do and would open a case and record the information and notify me if anything comes up. I ask them about any good faith help with the repair and explain that I have four fords in my house hold now and that I have been a long time ford driver and supporter often promoting ford to many friends and family considering foreign cars. They inform me that any good will in helping with the repair would have to come from the dealer. After reporting this back to the dealer they inform me that they cannot help as they are currently depleted on their customer assistance funds, however they do offer to sharpen their pencil and lower there estimate by approximately $800. This is still more then I am willing to spend at this time so I pick up the car.

The big problem besides no A/C was the hard starts in the morning. I figured this must be caused by the car trying to engage the compressor right as the engine fires at start up (even with the system switched off). So this weekend I climb under there to check things out and of course the skid plate / underbody shield was not reinstalled correctly one corner was hanging off (again expected from this dealer). I ended up unplugging and tapeing up the connector to the compressor and this took care of the hard start issue. Now I can take my time to research this to repair myself and start watching the junk yards for parts.

The worst part was on Sunday when I had to ask my girlfriend to drive her 05 Santa Fe with 133k to the Toby Keith concert so we could have air. I usually give her a hard time about driving a foreign car. I no longer have an argument for buying a ford as my $45,670 (sticker) three year old car with 41K requires over 3K in repairs. Not that I had all that much of a leg to stand on with my ongoing trans bump that the dealer cannot duplicate, my no heat at idle, humming sound on shifts, drivers window squeal, occasional power loss, noise from under dash, and the seats confusing heating and cooling and always inflating the lumbar. It is times like these that really make me question my loyalty toward American cars and ford.
 

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It's a Ford. I've never owned/driven a Ford that hasn't had major A/C issues. Like brakes, Ford falls on its face when it comes to these issues.

And in today's day, for any car to be out of warranty at 40k miles is silly.
 

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On ye' olde SHO's of yor, simply removing a shim from the compressor clutch was all you needed to be on your way . . . .
 

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The bottom line is it's too new not to fix it. How you pay for it or what parts you use...you still gotta have air in a vehicle that new.

**** I'm about to put a new compressor and lines in my 1994. and I'm going to because... sweating your cojones off is for dopes.
 

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The bottom line is it's too new not to fix it. How you pay for it or what parts you use...you still gotta have air in a vehicle that new.

**** I'm about to put a new compressor and lines in my 1994. and I'm going to because... sweating your cojones off is for dopes.

I regretted pulling hte A/C in my 94 SHO that I later turboed. at the time I was 18 and though F this I don't need AC weight reduction and all that noise. a couple years later I matured some and was driving 3K miles with no AC in 106 deg head in North Carolina. Definitely not a wise choice on my part.
 

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A/C dye, Compressor, Condenser, Evaporator, Lines with mufflers, Accumulator, O-rings, Evac and recharge. .

I have rebuilt a couple late model Ford AC systems and have come no where near that price! Ford AC lines include o-rings, so you are being charged for something that is included. Lines don't need to be purchased anyhow, they can be flushed, even the factory manual instructs the technition to flush AC lines. You need a compressor, accumulator and a condensor (I have not had good luck flushing late model Ford condensors). I have not had to flush the evaporators, because when I removed the expansion valve on the evaporator at the firewall and it looked perfect, meaning no compressor contaminates made it to the expansion valve. I wish you were closer, I would rebuild your whole AC system for $1,350 including Motorcraft parts.
 

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It's a Ford. I've never owned/driven a Ford that hasn't had major A/C issues. Like brakes, Ford falls on its face when it comes to these issues.

And in today's day, for any car to be out of warranty at 40k miles is silly.

Well maybe on the newer fords, I have a 2000 Grand Marquis my son still drives with well over 100K and the air still blows ice cold.

I was very disappointed ford did not offer any type of good will warranty help with only 41K on the car.
 
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Airborne, I wish you were closer too, I would have it fixed in a hart beat for that price.

luigisho, I do intend to fix it at some point, I just need to spend some time researching what actually needs to be fixed and quoting parts and services from a few more places first.

RedCandySHO, thanks for the link!
 
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I think you can find a decent tech who does work on the side and cobble together the parts you need.
I am with you on the warranty issue for sure. Not familiar with the powertrain warranty on your car but I would also look at the powertrain and other systems warranties and consider an extended one if you can swallow the price. For newer cars, and especially newer platforms like the new SHO powertrain, an extended warranty might not be a terrible idea to consider.
 

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Well maybe on the newer fords, I have a 2000 Grand Marquis my son still drives with well over 100K and the air still blows ice cold.

I was very disappointed ford did not offer any type of good will warranty help with only 41K on the car.

I've driven Town Cars of many different years, over the past 16+ years. Every single one has needed a/c work at some point. Some early, some before the fleet warranty of 150k miles is up, sometimes after.

But my '92 SHO had a/c working 1.5 years of the 10 years I owned it. It first failed at about 70k miles.

My parents' '92 ****** LX-e also had issues...

I had to have my entire system replaced on my '04 Town Car with 150 miles to go before the 150k warranty expired.

On my '11, I had to have it serviced with 3k miles to go before the warranty was up.




And let's not get into blower motors. Acton Lincoln used to be THE fleet seller of Town Cars. Their service department used to have a WALL of blower motors for the '98-'02 cars. All would fail before their service life ended...
 
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