EATC/ Climate Control gurus chime in please

[caseywan]

I know where the search button is and I know this has been covered before, but I have a few different questions from regular.

I sold a EATC removed directly from a 95 SHO, part number F5DH-19C933-AB, to a guy on eBay.

Guy emails me after he gets it and says it will not even bolt into his 95 SHO because the mounting positions are different and the plugs in the back are different. (ebay auction number is 110361123891, type it in the search bar on eBay and it will come up)

Know as far as I know all the mounting brackets etc. are the same from 89-95 Taurus, SHO and Sable. And if the car was originally equipped with EATC, then the plugs should be exactly the same.

Then he tells me he wants his money back immediatly and he will only send me the EATC back after I refund him.

Do I have something wrong here or is this guy and idiot?

 

[Vnuk1]

I think dude is trying to take you for a ride! Contact E-Bay about it thats sound a little shady to me. If he owns a 95 SHO the thing should bolt right in!

 

[caseywan]

Even if he was trying to take me for a ride eBay wouldn't do **** about it. Even though my auction says "the buyer is completely responsible to make sure it works for him and no refunds" eBay would still let the guy leave me negative feedback and in some cases give him his money back.

eBay/Paypal has gone down the tubes - I've had cases in the past like this where the buyer was a complete idiot and claimed I sold him garbage and eBay/Payal gave him money back out of my account without my consent before the buyer even had time to send the product back and I still didn't even get it back and the buyer still left me negative feedback.

In past situations I could use feedback as a bargaining chip and tell idiot buyers I would leave them negative if they left me negative and they would back off. But now the only thing I can do is leave my buyers positive feedback or no feedback at all.

Ok, rant over...

 

[Vnuk1]

Well then I guess that is the risk you take selling on Evil Bay.

 

[caseywan]

Well then I guess that is the risk you take selling on Evil Bay.

Yep, very true. I am just waiting for Google to make their own auction site and give eBay a run for their money!

 

[hawkeye18]

Tell that idiot to try swapping the two connectors around. They're keyed.

 

[caseywan]

Is there any possible way this guy is right? Was there anything different about the connectors or mounting among the 1st and 2nd gen SHO's?

 

[Rockledge]

A '95 to '95 is as straightforward a swap as it gets. If it fit and functioned in the '95 SHO you pulled it from, then it should fit and function in any other '95 SHO.

Does the buyer even have a SHO? Or was he hoping to pick up an EATC for something else he owns? I'm suspicious. Ask him to send you some pictures of his '95 SHO showing the dash and connectors that purportedly won't work.

 

[JRA2000TL]

AFAIK the damn thing is just plug and play. I snagged a hard button EATC out of the J/Y and saved it for my future Gen 2. It can even be from a Sable or non SHO Taurus....any year 92-95.

The guy is a *****. I feel your pain. Some ******* offered me $150 for my SHO that's listed on Ebay when the Buy it Now is $1500 and I specifically put no offers less than $1200. I wanted to cuss him out. Instead, I sent him a nasty reply telling him to not waste my time, blocked him, then set up restrictions on buyers (and to automatically decline bids less than x amount).

 

[firstgen89sho]

90-95 Taurus, Taurus SHO and Sable are all the same EATC's as far as plug and play goes, the 90-94 Lincoln Continental will plug in, but the case is physically smaller. 1989 controls will also plug in but the front of the case is physically different.

So I am thinking that the buyer is taking you for a ride.

 

[ohioshodude]

F5DH-19C933-AB D = Taurus he's either a *****..(tring to use the plugs backwards) or is trying to pull something over on you.

 

[the4biddendonut]

He probably thought his EATC was broken, bought yours off ebay, realized the car is the problem, now wants his money back because there's nothing wrong with the one he has.

 

[caseywan]

Well, looks like I was the idiot here. I had climate control from a 98 Continental (big button style) listed on eBay at the same time as the hard button SHO EATC, sold both at the same time, and then switched the shipping labels by mistake.

It crossed my mind when he first emailed me that I had switched it with the other guy, but what made me think this guy was off was that the other guy had his EATC for a week earlier and didn't say anything about getting the SHO unit instead of the Cont unit. And this guy bought the SHO EATC but got the Conti EATC and said the unit he got from me looked just like the picture in the auction. But in reality it looked like this and he somehow didn't notice the difference:

 

[Vnuk1]

Well at least you can admit you were wrong about it, and now you got it figured out....

 

[hawkeye18]

oh yeah, the conti units don't work too well in the SHO lol....

 

[JRA2000TL]

Yep, definitely a different EATC there. I think I've seen some of the guys on here make them work. You have to solder some crap though. IMHO I'd just find a direct swap of the same type rather than mess with modifying something.

 

[SleeperStyle]

 

[caseywan]

Yep, definitely a different EATC there. I think I've seen some of the guys on here make them work. You have to solder some crap though. IMHO I'd just find a direct swap of the same type rather than mess with modifying something.

Yeah, the guy that got the SHO unit instead of the Conti unit is really a guru with Ford EATC's and was telling me how you can make the Conti unit work in the SHO or make any Ford EATC work in pretty much any ford originally equipped with an EATC.