Welded cams?

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Just want some feedback here on welded cams. What is the most mileage you guys have ever seen one of these cars go without the cams welded before they finally bit the dust?? I am asking because my 96 has 125K on it and I am not sure if the cams are welded because I never checked, but I intend to tear the valve covers off and look ASAP, just so I know if its something i need to plan on getting done. Thanks guys
 

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Don't worry about the mileage of the car. The question here is not IF the cams are gonna slip, but WHEN the cams are gonna slip. And if they aren't welded, every time you start up the car you run that risk. Get them things welded up bud. ;)
 

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my wife and i have a 96 with 196k on it and as long as she has had it its never been welded, the origional owner might have but i doubt it as my wife bought it at 80k miles years ago. and from what i can tell theyve never started to budge but it helps that she never has had it above 4k ever. but still need to get them welded.
 

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It was a different situation in 2002 when a 1999 car was still worth $15,000.00
it was a no brainer to spend a few hundred dollars to make sure the car's engine didn't puke on you.

Now that the cars are worth a couple thousand dollars, it is a matter of want. Do you WANT to spend one third of the car's total value to ensure that it doesn't have a catastrophic engine failure or wait until the tranny pukes?

Different dynamic now. I still recommend camwelding, I just understand why fewer people feel compelled to do it.
 

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It was a different situation in 2002 when a 1999 car was still worth $15,000.00
it was a no brainer to spend a few hundred dollars to make sure the car's engine didn't puke on you.

Now that the cars are worth a couple thousand dollars, it is a matter of want. Do you WANT to spend one third of the car's total value to ensure that it doesn't have a catastrophic engine failure or wait until the tranny pukes?

Different dynamic now. I still recommend camwelding, I just understand why fewer people feel compelled to do it.

I'd venture to say that 60-70% of the ones on the road are welded already, the others simply don't know or care. In the last 3 years I've only welded 10-15 cars.

James
 

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yea thats the thing about our sho is its got 197k on it we havent moved it in 4 months cause we just got a 99 se taurus with 55k on it for free from my wifes grandma. the a pillars on the sho are rusted cause it was a michigan car before that had the windshield replaced and they scraped paint or something like that. the clear is peeling in a few places. so were unsure of having the cams welded since we may sell it anyways.
 

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At a certain point, unless you plan to keep the car long term for one reason or another, it becomes no longer cost effective to keep fixing up things. For many people the Gen III SHOs are starting to hit that point. I expect the number of them on the road will start to decline quickly over the next few years.

Mine is to that stage. It has over 190K on it and is still running like a Swiss watch, but it was an East coast car for a lot of winters and that means rot for the undersides. Both rockers are pretty much gone and the wheel wells are starting to go. I had some estimates done and it will not be cheap to fix. After thinking about it for a while, I have decided to go ahead and do it, though, and put the car body back in like new condition and then just keep her indefinitely as a show and shine vehicle heading slowly toward classic status, though that will be a long time yet.

The main reason for doing it this way is that we have the truck to drive for regular use and when we need to be out in the winter, and even at other times the car is really only getting taken out now for 20-40 miles at a time maybe once or twice a week. And then to top it off, I really do not see anything new out there that I want to spend all that money on to get a new vehicle to use for the same sorts of things that will be all that much better at it than the old SHO is. So this November I will put her in the body shop at the local specialist in car restoration (Little Valley Restorations) and spend 3-4 times what the blue book says she is worth to save her for the very long term. But I am not going to claim that is the sort of solution for everyone.

pax, smn
 

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im in about the same situation. trying to figure out if we have the money and if its worth it to save it. now if we came into some money i would easyily spend 10k on it to get it back to mint with a manual tranny and fresh paint. but the down side is im into minitrucks as well and have been putting money into my s10 (the ever on going project lol).

both the wife and i would love to save the sho but arnt sure its worth it at this time being. id love to send it for a manual tranny and new NESHO engine in it but have to start from 0 to save for that.
 

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Mine looked mainly rust free also, until removing the plastic to look at the rocker bottoms. Prior to that I thought the only rust was in the lips of the wheel wells. Those plastic covers produce the interesting pinched look, but also produce (and hide) problems.

pax, smn
 

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Well, the above link is to a cregs list post for a v8 sho. The owner that I talked to approximately 3 weeks prior I told them they needed to have the cams welded. So they blew me off as a kid, I don’t look 20. Now I e-mailed them and told them and said “hey remember me the kid that said you needed the cams welded”. They apologized and I told them $250 for scrap. They have since dropped it from about 4000 to 800. It's your call but I suggest weld or end up with a boat anchor.
 
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Well, the above link is to a cregs list post for a v8 sho. The owner that I talked to approximately 3 weeks prior I told them they needed to have the cams welded. So they blew me off as a kid, I don’t look 20. Now I e-mailed them and told them and said “hey remember me the kid that said you needed the cams welded”. They apologized and I told them $250 for scrap. They have since dropped it from about 4000 to 800. It's your call but I suggest weld or end up with a boat anchor.

well aint that some nasty poetic justice...
 

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