Water pump time...

[-DVP-]

Doing my water pump right now. I am using The Phoenix Project front 60k for directions but I have a few questions still.

All I am doing is the water pump and the timing belt (might re use the belt IF its not too bad since I cant get one today)


Here is the first problem. The crank bolt isnt loosening when I bump the starter. Do I really need to take it off since Im not doing the front main seal?

Here is my original post of the problem since now it doesnt look to be the water pump http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=95830

 

[yzstud]

the reason to take off the balancer is to replace the timing belt
so, no you DO NOT have to take it off to do the water pump

 

[-DVP-]

the reason to take off the balancer is to replace the timing belt
so, no you DO NOT have to take it off to do the water pump

Sounds good to me.

 

[oneqwicksho]

You need to pull your harmonic ballancer because you need to have the center timing belt cover of to pull the pump and to get the center timming cover off you have to pull the lower cause the lower holds the center on. If you don't the cps wiring will be in the way and I think you can't get to the one bolt plus it makes it a lot easyer

 

[-DVP-]

You need to pull your harmonic ballancer because you need to have the center timing belt cover of to pull the pump and to get the center timming cover off you have to pull the lower cause the lower holds the center on. If you don't the cps wiring will be in the way and I think you can't get to the one bolt plus it makes it a lot easyer

Got around the CPS wire problem. I did run into the center cover problem but I think I can get around that also.

Here is the problem. If it was my pump that was leaking wouldnt there be coolant under the pump in the "valley" right under it? It is completely dry. I dont want to install a 160 pump and that not be the issue.

 

[oneqwicksho]

That is a yes and no it depends why are you changing the pump because of leake or noise

 

[-DVP-]

Leak. Storm Chaser suggested freeze plug also, but I am not sure of what symptoms to look for for that.

 

[oneqwicksho]

It could be freeze plugs it could hoses could be the transfer tube under the intake or it could. Leaking into your oil are you going through collant or did u see a leak and if its leaking where abouts is it leaking

 

[-DVP-]

rear pass side from what I could see. It started to smoke too. I also had no heat.

 

[oneqwicksho]

Your heater core cold be going bad or your lines that go to your heater core cold be leaking which will let air or not let enough coolant. Flow through the heater core which will cause no heat I would check your lines there directly under where your wiring harness bolts to your computer I thing just look for two 3/4 hoses that go to the fire wall on the back passenger side that is where your leak will Probaly be hope I'm helping

 

[-DVP-]

Your heater core cold be going bad or your lines that go to your heater core cold be leaking which will let air or not let enough coolant. Flow through the heater core which will cause no heat I would check your lines there directly under where your wiring harness bolts to your computer I thing just look for two 3/4 hoses that go to the fire wall on the back passenger side that is where your leak will Probaly be hope I'm helping

I looked and didnt see any leaks coming from them. There is also no fluid on the floor. And you are helping because I have NO IDEA what it is.

 

[oneqwicksho]

Well no heat would make me think thermostat or heater core and the smoke would eather be thoses hoses the pump or freeze plugto check the pump I would pull the upper timing belt cover then start the car and with a light chech for leakes from it with the other two just visualy inspeck and make sure the engine has been runnin for like ten minutes that way it can warm up and to pressureize the system it will help to show the leaks and does it try to over heat

 

[Storm-Chaser]

First, a leaking freeze plug would be due to one of three issues:

• internal corrosion through the plug
  
  
• external rust into the plug
  
  
• plug pushed-out by water freezing in the block during extended sub-freezing weather (which we just had).

If it is due to internal corrosion, you should be able to see where it has been leaking out of the freeze plug. If it is due to rust, the leak will likely be much harder to see due to rust corrosion of the block. Look for a pattern of slight discoloration trailing-down from the plug. If the plug was partially pushed out, it may be difficult to see. Probably the best way to find any of these leaks, is to get the car on a rack and run it to the point where it begins to leak, and trace the leak to the source.

The Service Manual will have/show the locations of the freeze plugs.

Btw, you might want to include a link to the original thread, for others to reference - as well as a link to this thread.

Leak. Storm Chaser suggested freeze plug also, but I am not sure of what symptoms to look for for that.

 

[-DVP-]

First, a leaking freeze plug would be due to one of three issues:

• internal corrosion through the plug
  
  
• external rust into the plug
  
  
• plug pushed-out by water freezing in the block during extended sub-freezing weather (which we just had).

If it is due to internal corrosion, you should be able to see where it has been leaking out of the freeze plug. If it is due to rust, the leak will likely be much harder to see due to rust corrosion of the block. Look for a pattern of slight discoloration trailing-down from the plug. If the plug was partially pushed out, it may be difficult to see. Probably the best way to find any of these leaks, is to get the car on a rack and run it to the point where it begins to leak, and trace the leak to the source.

The Service Manual will have/show the locations of the freeze plugs.

Btw, you might want to include a link to the original thread, for others to reference - as well as a link to this thread.

Thank you for all the help so far. I am going to link these two (didnt think this one would end up being more than just help with install). I am going to put it back together and try and track the leak again. I was sure it was the pump but now that it is dry under Im not so sure.