Torquing Crankshaft Bolt

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What is the best (hopefully free) way to stop the crankshaft pulley from spinning while I'm trying to torque this bolt down? I've already spun the gears like an entire rotation of the belt and I cant get it to stop moving on me.

edit: the belts are all on and everything still spins >.< (granted I honestly didnt expect the belts to stop the crank from spinning.)
 

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You have to use a strap wrench holding the crankshaft pulley in place while resting up against the AC compressor.

It usually takes awhile to get the strap wrench tight enough to hold, but that is how to do it.

You obviously can't have the accessory belt on when you do this...I find it easier to do it before I put any of accessory pulleys back on (idler pullies, w/p pulley)

Doug
 

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i had to borrow a battery powered impact gun from a friend. (he uses it to break loose lug nuts on garbage trucks, so i know it did the trick. Been fine for over 15k now!-)
 

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If you put it in gear (5th) and put the front wheels on the ground it will keep it from spinning. Set your parking brake and if you can get a helper have them step on the brake as well. Use a breaker bar with a cheater pipe on it. This is the way I've always done it.

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put it in 5th gear and have someone stand on the brakes.
or shove a screw driver between the brake caliper and through one of the vents in the rotor.
 

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put it in 5th gear and have someone stand on the brakes.
or shove a screw driver between the brake caliper and through one of the vents in the rotor.
This.

And use a torque wrench, unless you want teh crank cancer.
 

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If you put it in gear (5th) and put the front wheels on the ground it will keep it from spinning. Set your parking brake and if you can get a helper have them step on the brake as well. Use a breaker bar with a cheater pipe on it. This is the way I've always done it. Jeremy

-it's an ATX

put it in 5th gear and have someone stand on the brakes.
or shove a screw driver between the brake caliper and through one of the vents in the rotor.

-it's an ATX

then read the post and realize its an ATX DOH!!!

-Thank you!

Oh.

Remove inspection cover (if the ATX has that?) and jam the flex plate somehow?

-Nope, that means pulling the starter and all holes have the torque converter studs going through them.

put it in drive and do the screw driver method.

-it's an ATX.....the wheels arn't directly connected to the motor.


Hazmat,

You really have two choices. Impact gun or strap wrench. It's a lot easier with an MTX, but then you have a discontinued tranny...and a smaller motor.

Doug
 

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If you don't have an impact gun just bring it to a shop close to you and have them tighten it. It shouldn't cost more than $20.
 

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How about making a tool out of a piece of steel plate that will bolt up to the threaded holes intended for a puller? Naturally, the plate will need a hole in it to access the crank bolt. Probably a hundred ways to attach a handle for leverage. IIRC, Off Road SHO fabricated such a tool...but I'm not certain about that.
 

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Convert your slushbox car to an MTX, then do what everyone else has suggested. ;)

The strap wrench method works pretty good for the ATX's, that's what I did when I used to work on SHO's for other folks. I don't like using an impact wrench to set mission-critical torques, it just doesn't set well with me.
 

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I alway's use a few drops of loc tite on the crank bolt as well.
 

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Bizzy sent this to me a while back when I had my ATX. Bizzy's images and help are below. Hope this helps you out, HazMatt :)

Bizzy said:
Here's another rough illustration. It is what you would see from the top if everything else was cut away.

Tightencrank




Bizzy said:
Normally what I do is get the timing belt all situated with the auto-tensioner assembly, etc. Once that is back in place it will help hold the crank still because of the motor's compression. It's not imperative that you do that, it's just how I do it.

Then take two boards, one on the front side of the pulley, the other on the rear side and tighten a c-clamp on it. The boards keep the c-clamp from actually touching the pulley and damaging it. The clamp should be on the side closest to the passenger compartment so when you start to tighten the bolt (rightsy-tightsy), it will rise up and hit the fender fire wall. If you have it tight enough, you can use the leverage from the clamp on the pulley against the fender fire wall to tighten the pulley.

Here's a very rough diagram.
Crankbolttightenatx

Does that make sense? If not I can see if I can modify some photos of a car to show you. It might be easier for you if you leave the belt off when doing it, but I've done it so many times with the belt on that I've got a system going so I don't even have to think about where the stuff goes to get it into place quickly.

Also, when you get ready to put things back together again, don't forget to put the crank gear shim thing in place prior to putting the pulley on. If you forget it the timing belt will walk right off the crank gear and hit your pulley which will damage it. Very important! :)

Have fun! :omgsho:

~Biz

What I usually do is take a c-clamp and the 1x2 board pieces, put the boards on either side of the pulley then clamp the c-clamp on as tight as you can get it. Use the box end of a large wrench as a cheater of sorts to get the clamp on super tight. "Put the belt into place" then rotate the bolt by hand until the boards/c-clamp meet up with the underside of the fender wall, then crank away with a torque wrench. Expect for it to slip if it's not tight enough. Don't forget the board pieces because if you clamp the c-clamp directly to the pulley you can damage the pulley.

Here are a couple of other images that were taken when we did my 95 ATX front 60k.
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That is a big socket between the c-clamp and the bottom of the fender well.

image.php
 

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Thanks for those pictures, boat. That looks like the best way for me to get that crank isolated so good lookin out. Ima go try that in like 1 hr. Ill let you all know how it goes.

Thanks again for everyones responses too.
 

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