Torque App and Bluetooth OBDII

[VABeachSHO]

I have modified a 2012 PP SHo as follows, Stage 4x Plus tune from LMS, 160 deg T-Stat, Cold plugs, 3 bar MAP sensor and Air Raid intake. I have been running the Torque Pro App recently on my Android phone and it is connected Bluetooth to the OBDII port. The information I get is like reading a good book, fun and interesting but does not end with any actionable items.

This is the SHO at idle, outside temp is 72 deg. Remember, T-Stat is opening at 160



SHO cruising at 30mph - mostly vacuum at cruise. max vacuum seen is around -11.8psi


SHO under modest acceleration.

Some interesting points.

Intake temp is inverse to speed. Faster = cooler intake temp and closer to ambient temp. Much bleed from the engine at idle. Cold air intake = myth. Analysis of ANY intake with the hood open = nonsense. I would like your thoughts regarding protecting the air intake from the bleeding of high temp engine air. As soon as you slow down, the intake temp rises.

T-Stat is opening to the radiator at 160 deg F. Coolant temp seen on the display appears further down stream and has seen some temp rises from the engine. Max temp seen at sensor is 208. I'm not sure where the coolant temp is located (discharge/return to radiator?) Your thoughts?

Boost. The SHO runs in vacuum mode most of the time. Max boost as noted by the sensor is around 14 psi overcoming the vacuum of -10 psi inherent to the operation of a normally aspirated engine. I spoke to Jamie at LMS and he said this was consistent with his expectations. He remarked that the 3 bar MAP sensor allows for tighter/more refined tuning that produces more hp.

Anyway, I enjoy seeing the information. I have the phone mounted so it is easy to see. It doesn't change my driving habits. It doesn't lead to more hp. It's just like a good book that is a good read.

 

[SHOdded]

Good info! Heat absorption and heat rejection Obviously the OEM intake materials heatsoak pretty quickly, even though plastic. That's where the carbonfiber + insulating tape approach of MDesign works wonders - great heat rejection. As far as coolant temps, we are highly dependent on the heat capacity of air (density/viscosity, temperature, etc.). A little treatise on Internal Combustion Engine Cooling, and Heat Capacity.

 

[BigB15]

I stuck a tablet to the windshield, and having been running dash command, it gives me more information then I can digest while driving but data logs for later review.

My peak boost was 19.7, but usually around 16.
Intake temp would drop 30 degrees from idling to making a 1/4 run, once the car is moving it drops.

 

[Big Mike 74]

I have modified a 2012 PP SHo as follows, Stage 4x Plus tune from LMS, 160 deg T-Stat, Cold plugs, 3 bar MAP sensor and Air Raid intake. I have been running the Torque Pro App recently on my Android phone and it is connected Bluetooth to the OBDII port. The information I get is like reading a good book, fun and interesting but does not end with any actionable items.

This is the SHO at idle, outside temp is 72 deg. Remember, T-Stat is opening at 160

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SHO cruising at 30mph - mostly vacuum at cruise. max vacuum seen is around -11.8psi
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SHO under modest acceleration. View attachment 707

Some interesting points.

Intake temp is inverse to speed. Faster = cooler intake temp and closer to ambient temp. Much bleed from the engine at idle. Cold air intake = myth. Analysis of ANY intake with the hood open = nonsense. I would like your thoughts regarding protecting the air intake from the bleeding of high temp engine air. As soon as you slow down, the intake temp rises.

T-Stat is opening to the radiator at 160 deg F. Coolant temp seen on the display appears further down stream and has seen some temp rises from the engine. Max temp seen at sensor is 208. I'm not sure where the coolant temp is located (discharge/return to radiator?) Your thoughts?

Boost. The SHO runs in vacuum mode most of the time. Max boost as noted by the sensor is around 14 psi overcoming the vacuum of -10 psi inherent to the operation of a normally aspirated engine. I spoke to Jamie at LMS and he said this was consistent with his expectations. He remarked that the 3 bar MAP sensor allows for tighter/more refined tuning that produces more hp.

Anyway, I enjoy seeing the information. I have the phone mounted so it is easy to see. It doesn't change my driving habits. It doesn't lead to more hp. It's just like a good book that is a good read.

Is it relatively accurate? Where can I get the blue tooth obd port and is it easy to set up?

 

[SHOtime623]

Is it relatively accurate? Where can I get the blue tooth obd port and is it easy to set up?

Here's the adapter that I use on my '10 SHO:
http://www.amazon.com/ScanTool-4272...?ie=UTF8&qid=1446086302&sr=8-17&keywords=obd2

I have that coupled to Torque Pro and it gives me all the info I could ever want. I have several views customized for when I'm driving, and the app automatically syncs with DropBox with a report every time I run the app. It's pretty great!

I can post a sample of what data it collects if that would be helpful to you.

 

[rubydist]

One thing that people tend to forget is that for low power cruising (high vacuum situations) you want the intake air to be hot, not cold. This is because high vacuum causes higher pumping losses in the engine, and since hot intake air is less dense, it takes a wider throttle opening to get the correct volume of air into the engine. The larger throttle opening results in lower pumping losses (higher efficiency). So, as long as the intake temp goes down at WOT, then higher intake temps at low throttle situations are actually a good thing.

 

[93markVIII]

ForScan is another excellent program for Ford vehicles and a bluetooth adapter.
i like it better than Torque, and is more in depth because it is Ford specific.