Steering Wheel Wiggle

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My 95 MTX has what feels like a loose steering wheel when you wiggle it side to side (up and down for that matter too). It has never gotten any worse in the 5 years I have had it.
Been told it is probably the tilt mechanism, but that movement is very precise, and the wheel is the only thing that moves when I do the wiggle move.
Very possible someone was in under the airbag and put the thing back together badly, but that was before I arrived on the scene.
Any thoughts on what could be wrong?
 

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the bushing that the steering shaft rides in is loose/worn?
 

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OK, have some updates; and a plea for help.
Took the airbag off the steering wheel and then pulled the steering wheel. Took the clock spring apparatus off and looked into the top housing.

There was a yellow circular disc about the size of a silver dollar (and mostly empty in the middle) that sat on the steering shaft and lifted off, after the clock spring was taken off. Problem is, another little yellow tab fell out, same colour, but does not look to be broken off the main disc.
That is problem 1.
When I look at the exposed steering shaft, I see a white plastic ring with 4 square bumps on it (not equally spaced) that is the turn signal cancelling cam. How does that come off the shaft. Can it come out the top?

Below that is a snap ring that I cannot get at easily because this cam is partially in the way.

Below that is the shaft bearing - upper which has totally failed, allowing the steering wheel to move sideways a lot. Can it be removed from the top?

Any idea how to get to the bearing from where I am now.
If I need to buy something, I picture it will not be from Ford, so how do I buy it?
Should I request that whole upper housing where the key is located, or just the bearing and all those coloured parts I mentioned.

This is the first day above freezing in a dozen weeks, so that is why this thread is from late last year.

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I would just swap out the upper steering column assembly. I have one in my for-sale thread, but you likely don't want to have to pay shipping of that whole asm from me to you, but you should be able to find one from someone who is parting out a car.

Then, you just remove the key switch lock asm from your column and put it in the new one and you are good as new.
 

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OK, got the signal light canceling cam off the shaft, and can now see the snap ring clearly. It is a monster and none of my dainty snap ring pliers work.
There is a spring behind the snap ring that shoves on the top of the bearing (that is between the snap ring and the upper column bearing) and it is quite strong, and it prevents the nose of the pliers from going through the holes in the snap ring.
Any suggestions, and has anyone got this far in the dis-assembly?
 

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Here are the parts I am talking about and the bottom picture is the empty column with the wheel removed.

LittlePlasticCarFellasCOMP

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Got a little further, pried the snap ring off and found the spring behind it was broken in two. After removing the spring, next came a thin sleeve with a mushroom bottom that rests on the top of a tapered cone, and next came a thin washer, and then the cone, which looks worn out and has a split in it.

Never has one apart before, so it is hard to figure out what is ok and what is bad, and maybe even what is not there.
Any help would be appreciated.
 

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Here are the remaining parts that sit on the steering shaft and are composed of the circlip down to the little conical wedge that centers the shaft in the column using the spring (that is broken in this case).
Does this look familiar to anyone?
Broken partsSCALED
 

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Do you want a scan of the exploded steering column from the Helm's manual. I gave away my 95 manual, but I can send you a scan from a 94 manual
 
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Yea, that would help as the 94 / 95 have the same clockspring, so I think the other stuff would be the same.
I have the 1990 Helms, but it is not a big help as quite a bit is different. Get the page for the manual shift car and the additional page with all the part names that correspond to the balloon numbers.
If an email is needed it is [email protected]
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Thank you zoomlater.
I have dedicated my free time today to doing my taxes, so it will be a little while before I use the information, but a hearty thanks to you for your help.
 

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I just started to take apart a column today at the junkyard. How did you get the turn signal cam off? It looks as though you can get the bearings and other parts you need on ebay fairly reasonably. I also looked at a gen 3/4 Taurus column and the parts that you need appear to be the same. The actual shaft itself is different however.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-UP-FOR...Ford|Model:Taurus&hash=item23315eabd0&vxp=mtr

Bearing alone:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NEW-199...NEW-/361265329561?hash=item541d177599&vxp=mtr
 

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The turn signal cam (the white thing with 4 bumps on the circumference) slides off the shaft. That is one of the few parts I had no trouble with. I took a piece of wire and got underneath it and pulled up, and it came out.

The big problem is getting that circlip thing to open up and allow the circlip to slide up the shaft. The spring keeps you form getting the nose of the removal tool into the two holes. My spring was broken, and it was all I could do to push the spring down enough to get the snap ring pliers inserted.

There is a special tool that threads onto the steering shaft and compresses the spring and allows you to get the circlip off, without it, pretty well impossible. I have not done it myself, but I dropped off my new column to a shop that has the tool, so we will see how it goes. If they can get it apart, I will install these new parts into my existing column. If it doesn't come apart, I will be putting the whole new column in the car.

In my collection of parts at the top of the steering column, I did not find the roller bearing they show in the kit of the first listing or feature in the second listing. My column was messed up when I got it, so I can't say if it is supposed to be there on the top of the column. Otherwise, those parts look right.
 
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Time to finish off this thread.

Never did find anyone with the correct fancy tool to compress the little spring and release the spring clip (C-Clip?). But did not need it. When you have the correct large sized snap ring pliers, it is no problem to open up the snap ring (spring clip, C-clip or whatever it is called?)

The parts shown in kevinspanns post #13 (first entry) are the correct parts to rebuild the upper shaft, but delivery is 2 weeks, so make sure you are not in a hurry. The actual bearing will not come out of the aluminum housing unless you disassemble the upper part (the tilt part) and pound it out from the back with a 13/16" deep socket (used as a punch). I left mine in place and did not change it, as it was intact. This is the part in the second entry of post #13. If you are at the wrecking yard, you will need the small torx bit (T30) to get that tilt section off, and try to find one with the key cylinder removed already.

With my steering wheel set up, the whole thing was a nightmare to disassemble as nothing gave up without a fight. The turn signal cancellation cam (the white thing in the picture) comes off by getting a steel wire in behind it (not easy) and then "strangling it" by twisting the wire together, and the cam pops off when the wire is squeezed in behind it. Nothing else gave up on mine and I had to resort to destroying the parts as nothing would slide off.

I got another wheel assembly from Rubydist, and everything on it slid off with no issues whatsoever. Can't explain why mine was so messed up.

To put everything back together, just reassemble with the snap ring being the top component and slide it down the steering shaft as far as you can. I used a short chunk of pipe and bought a M10 X 1.5 thread bolt that screws into the top end of the steering shaft. Use this bolt to push the pipe on the snap ring and move it down about 1/2" till it clicks into the trough designed for the snap ring.

I glued my yellow thing in the center of clock spring back together, put it in the clock spring and put everything back on the shaft, put on the steering wheel, and put the air bag back in place.

Before I started the disassembly, I took a marker and scribed a line on the column cover, steering wheel, clock spring (including the movable part in the center) and noting the yellow thing's position. And when it went back together, this helped a lot, as a long time had gone by.

Special thanks to Zoomlater and Kevinspann for their assistance on this topic and Rubydist for packaging up a steering column and shipping it to me.

A few more details:
The wire used to strangle the turn signal cancel cam is a bit more than 1 mm in diameter. There is no other way to get it off as the shaft has notches and diameter changes that make sliding it off difficult.

The bolt I used to put the snap ring back in the gland was 2 3/4 " long (70 mm) and had about a 1" threaded section. You have to use the bolt as when you push on the snap ring from the top, the shaft moves away from you as there is a similar spring assembly on the opposite end of the assembly that makes the shaft mobile. The MTX shaft thread was M10 - 1.5, while the ATX steering shaft thread was close (my guess M10 - 1.25) but not the same.

The pipe I used (with the bolt being 2 3/4") was 4 1/4" long, and has to have a 3/4"+ inner diameter. I used a 3/4" pipe with a thin wall, but lots of other tubes and whatnot could be used. It has to go over the steering shaft but be small enough to make contact with the snap ring to give it a push.

To get the Clock spring off the shaft, you must move the wiring ahead toward you. You don't have to uncouple the wiring, just move it off its mounting plate (pry up on the christmas tree type holders). You have to take that bottom steel plate off to see these wires. The short wire going to the ignition key switch can be left as is.
 
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glad to hear you got it together and working.
 

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