Some more A/C help

[todras]

Bought this off of Ebay. Not sure if it was the best decision since it is w/o clutch and pulley.



I have a spare compressor that I can pull the pulley from or even off the one on the car. What do I need to order to get her correct? Just the clutch or should I get clutch and pulley. Do I need anything else? Thanks.

 

[fricker66]

That doesn't appear to be the correct Nippondenso 10P15F compressor for the SHO. Judging from the photos only it looks like a compressor for the regular Taurus 3.0 (FS-10). I hope I'm wrong though... Unless your intent is to install the non-SHO compressor. There has been some debate as to the compatibility of these two compressors. Be sure to post your findings.

 

[todras]

This is the PN listed F1DZ-19703-A. This is an original FMC part.

Put that Pn in at www.fordpartonline.com and it confirms it's a SHO pump.

F1DZ19703A $369.98 $0.00 $277.49
Air conditioner and heater - Condenser compressor and lines - Compressor
Compressor - 3.0 liter w/sho 1992 - 1993

 

[DHMag]

This is the PN listed F1DZ-19703-A. This is an original FMC part.

Put that Pn in at www.fordpartonline.com and it confirms it's a SHO pump.

F1DZ19703A $369.98 $0.00 $277.49
Air conditioner and heater - Condenser compressor and lines - Compressor
Compressor - 3.0 liter w/sho 1992 - 1993

looks like a Sanden unit rather than a Nippondenso unit. a Nippondenso A/C clutch will not fit a Sanden unit. PM me for further discussion.

 

[todras]

Why PM? Keep it out here for others to find in the future please. The other unit I have is a FMO unit. I don't know the quality of it to put on the car and have it crap out. The pulley spins freely so I could use the pully. Just need to know where to get the cheapest clutch and what else to get.

 

[Mike Kelly]

10p15f sho compressor

Do the manifolds bolt up to the same location?

 

[todras]

Asking me? I would assume so since they are for the same engine/tranny combo. The differences are probably clutch/pulley only. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL FORD PART.

 

[fricker66]

No hands on experience but prior findings from other members were that the lines do not line up exactly. I don't recall how much modification is required in order to get them installed. Sounds like Dale has more current knowledge and I agree, please relay your findings for future use.

 

[Mike Kelly]

Hi Todras,

Yes, the question was for you. Sorry I did not include that. I'm no expert by any means, but all the sho compressors I replaced have been 10P15F. The years were 90,91, 92 and 94. I hope it works, so we have another option. I have been asked by the retail stores if it is a factory or dealer installed compressor. I have been given both compressors with the correct ones in my case being the 10p15F. Mike

 

[todras]

I'm so confused by the responses. This is the original Ford part. Isn't the Nipon just the same thing basically but just made by them? I just need to know what else I need to get to make this factory pump work.

 

[fricker66]

Yes, you obviously have an original Ford part. It appears you have the unit designed and installed on non-SHO Taurii. Nippondenso is the original Ford installed part on all 89-95 SHOs. I'm thinking someone put the wrong part in the right box......

 

[todras]

Does anyone have a pic of the Denso?

 

[fricker66]

This matches what I recently installed.

This listing for the 3.0 non-SHO appears to be the same item you reflect in your first post. Again, this item may work just fine on the SHO. It appears Dale has a solution so hopefully he'll respond. I just wanted to bring the difference to your attention as I quickly realized in your original post that the compressor looked nothing like the Nippondenso that we recently removed and installed in my 89.

 

[todras]

Thanks a lot! I looked everywhere for pics on the web. I haven't paid for the auction yet so now I get to deal with the seller on declining the product. This should be fun. Hopefully they understand the part # on the box is wrong. ON another note anyone use this? I'm just trying to find the cheapest comp. and dryer I can.

 

[fricker66]

In staying with the correct factory installed Nippondenso compressor, you may want to give these guys a shot. If you do a search from this section, you'll see where I was not so happy with the delay I encountered in obtaining the correct shipment. However, they are the cheapest I found back in May and highly doubt you'll encounter similar shipping nightmares. Gotta love it when UPS takes a bad address and attempt to deliver the item without ever checking with the vendor..... What's the use of city state and zip code?......

Back to the issue at hand, it may be entirely possible to install that compressor in place of the Nippondenso. Sorry I'm of no technical assistance in that regards.....

See this discussion for a several year old listing of items to check before assuming the FS-10 is compatible. Again, it would appear that Dale has some solutions....... :corn:

 

[todras]

So the item is correct even though the pic is of the one for the regular Taurus. LMAO! The dryer that comes with it is coorect for the MTX as well? I need that too.

 

[fricker66]

Yes, once all of the kit was delivered to the correct address, no further problems were encountered with the installation. You will also note that the listed photo does not reflect the correct replacement drier. I think they note somewhere on the listing that it's a "generic" photo for all of their kits. Anyway, it's been working just fine and has gone through several extreme heat waves here in St. Louis all while blowing very cold air. I did opt for the VOV they offer in addition to the kit package. I don't have the most accurate thermometer but it does reflect 40 degrees from the center vent. I recall once obtaining 35 degrees with the old R12 system but I am satisfied so far with the replacement parts. It's certainly nice to have a good running a/c system!

I strongly advise you to call J.W. at (940) 549-0288 to discuss if the items are in stock. You might even mention my name, he'll probably remember it from the many times we chatted over the SHO parts.......

 

[DHMag]

Why PM? Keep it out here for others to find in the future please. The other unit I have is a FMO unit. I don't know the quality of it to put on the car and have it crap out. The pulley spins freely so I could use the pully. Just need to know where to get the cheapest clutch and what else to get.

ok, nevermind, but you have the wrong compressor, period.

 

[fricker66]

Dale,
I assume then you never attempted to install the FS-10 compressor. I was hopeful to hear about your findings.

Frederick

 

[DHMag]

Dale,
I assume then you never attempted to install the FS-10 compressor. I was hopeful to hear about your findings.

Frederick

no, because its the wrong part. even if it did fit, it requires modification. by the time youve adapted it to the SHO motor, your money would be better off spent on the Nippondenso compressor.

my findings, i have sourced parts for the 10P15F compressor, so now i can rebuild them.

**EDIT** some clarification. the Nippondenso 10P15F compressor came equipped from the Factory on the SHO motor. if the A/C was a Dealer installed unit, it would use the Sanden FS-10. the suction and discharge lines are different, the accumulators are different. all SHOs have Factory installed A/C systems.