So Very Supercharged

[NCTaurusSHO]

the fan came off a 96 probe gt just had to trim some plastic away it fits nicely in the lower right hand corner.Used some tranny cooler ties that go through the radiator to hold it in place the jack shaft is just 3/4 cold rolled that was machined down to 16.2mm to except the pulleyalso had it threaded for the nut, and had a collor made up 3/4 on one side and 16.2mm on the other side also with a key way slot to mate to the supercharger

Paul

 

[SASHO91]

Sweet. Any more pics/ video of the progress?

 

[focus'N'SHO]

sounds like a very interesting idea. I really wanna hear how this turns out and may think about doing something similar in the future with mine. I always like it when people try new things and can rig/engineer things themselves. It's a lot of fun to do.

 

[jedhead]

Now I am getting some ideas about what to do with this that is sitting in my garage:



Bob

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

Now I am getting some ideas about what to do with this that is sitting in my garage:



Bob

I would love to do engineer the brackets and what ever for that one

 

[Off Road SHO]

Bob'

Is that an "end" exit or a "bottom" exit twin screw? Have anymore pics of it? I think that would be an excellent project. Someone needs to build FI plenum that bolts to the top of the heads and accepts different adaptors for different blowers and or turbo's. As much as I like the snakes, once you go forced induction, they're not needed.

Tom

 

[jedhead]

Bob'

Is that an "end" exit or a "bottom" exit twin screw? Have anymore pics of it? I think that would be an excellent project. Someone needs to build FI plenum that bolts to the top of the heads and accepts different adaptors for different blowers and or turbo's. As much as I like the snakes, once you go forced induction, they're not needed.

Tom

I was told that this whipple charger was for a C32 AMG MB. I had some thoughts about using this supercharger which compresses the air internally unlike the roots, generates less heat and is more efficent on 3.6 project motor. This supercharger on my project 3.6 would be a torque monster.

I believe that air goes in here:


Air comes out here:


Snout:



Bob

 

[LOUDSHO92]

Im game.

 

[shogansta]

Hey Nc when are we gonna get more pics and a write up i would love to do this pretty please i would Even pay u for a write up!

 

[Geek SHO]

I should have chimed in here sooner. I suppose this is now the third Eaton M90 SHO to date? Mine is in need of engine repair (unrelated to the supercharger) and a lot of work with the intake efficiency, but it sorta runs.

Very nice work with the jackshaft and such, Ashley.

As for roots blowers not compressing air, one look at my boost gauge disproves that.

 

[Off Road SHO]

As for roots blowers not compressing air, one look at my boost gauge disproves that.

When we say that it doesn't compress the air, we mean internally, within the housing like a centrifugal blower does. The Roots style just pushes the same amount of air for every revolution that it spins. In the case of the M-90, 90 cubic inches per revolution. If the air pressure on the intake side of the blower is 14 psi the pressure on the exhaust side will be 14 psi.

Now listen up because here is where you get your boost. Your engine blocks the airflow on the exhaust side. Yep, your engine is a restriction to the airflow. If the Roots blower turns two times to every one revolution of the motor, it is trying to move 180 cubic inches of air through our motors that are only gulping 91 cubic inches per revolution.

What to do with that extra air? Well, let's just store it in the intake tract until it can be forced into an open intake opening. More air "stacked" up and waiting is called boost.

Roots blowers aren't the most efficient at moving air but they deliver a set amount per revolution that gives the engine a nice linear power adder. The centrifugal blower, like the turbo is much better at making more power.

Tom

 

[1slickRED89]

the next step is a video of your Turbo SHO Vs. your Roots SHO. to definitely prove which is better.

any tire-frying-goodness on tape yet? All I ask is to please not add a soundtrack (during the race) that may muffle the Roots Vs Turbo symphony. :type:

 

[SASHO91]

I should have chimed in here sooner. I suppose this is now the third Eaton M90 SHO to date? .

Actually 5...
Tom
Kenny
You
NCtaurus
and the one off of ebay....

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

And mine is actually running ....

But in long term storage until we buy another home

I really should have gotten video of it driving itself off the flat trailer and into the storage facility. Eaton boosted, with open headers in a big, empty building

 

[Silver95]

:dig:

BIG difference between negative talk and technical help there pal.
SHOs are a dying breed. Everyone likes to see cool new mods, but not everyone enjoys watching people blow up perfectly good SHO motors, accident or not.
http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=1

DITTO!

In all honesty NCSHO guys, and this is not to be rude, but just honest. I am sick and tired of watchin you people just throw a supercharger after supercharher and turbo after turbo on many sho's and end up either fawkin up the car, or killin the motor. Cant you leave it stock or atleast keep in nice and clean (n/a with all bolt ons) or do ONE nice turbo set up like the green one you have with cams (is that one blown up yet?) I am not saying this to start a fire, or to be mean, this is how i feel. Aren't you bored of superchargin or turboing a SHO every weekend man? And i honestly cannot say you are a true sho ethusiast. Your cars look dirty, you drive the **** out of them and then they blow or die somehow. BUT, i can also see a reason why you use them. CHEAP, and a good motor and prolly have a pile of sho motors waiting. Your probably thinking "oh hes just a hater" No, not at all, i like these cars, despite the fact that at times they can be a **** off, but man, stop doin what your doin. You want a supercharged SHO? Go buy a nice Vortec kit, some nice injectors, an aftermarket FPS.....not ductape the pipin and get er done sort of way......thats my 2 cents, take it as is, and admins, please dont delete this, i am not here to argue with this guy, but this fella is not doin anythin positive.

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

DITTO!

In all honesty NCSHO guys, and this is not to be rude, but just honest. I am sick and tired of watchin you people just throw a supercharger after supercharher and turbo after turbo on many sho's and end up either fawkin up the car, or killin the motor. Cant you leave it stock or atleast keep in nice and clean (n/a with all bolt ons) or do ONE nice turbo set up like the green one you have with cams (is that one blown up yet?) I am not saying this to start a fire, or to be mean, this is how i feel. Aren't you bored of superchargin or turboing a SHO every weekend man? And i honestly cannot say you are a true sho ethusiast. Your cars look dirty, you drive the **** out of them and then they blow or die somehow. BUT, i can also see a reason why you use them. CHEAP, and a good motor and prolly have a pile of sho motors waiting. Your probably thinking "oh hes just a hater" No, not at all, i like these cars, despite the fact that at times they can be a **** off, but man, stop doin what your doin. You want a supercharged SHO? Go buy a nice Vortec kit, some nice injectors, an aftermarket FPS.....not ductape the pipin and get er done sort of way......thats my 2 cents, take it as is, and admins, please dont delete this, i am not here to argue with this guy, but this fella is not doin anythin positive.

are you kidding me? haha. WTF. really all I can say is For someone who loves these cars ssssooooo much, you didn't even come to the convention. You have 0 room to talk. Our turbo sho made the 14 1/2 hours long tripw there and the 14 1/2 hours trip back with NO problems. ask the guys who were there. they saw it and NO ONE had anything bad to say to us. We were the ONLY TURBO SHO THERE! And we talked to so many people who have had problems with stuff breaking on theres (trannies,motors..etc.) Don't be jealous because we happen to have more sho parts than you. We don't just blow up and engine and chuck it. we take it apart and fix it. And since you need to start talking shit about mine green sho(ashley), no it isn't f*cked up. no it hasn't been f*cked up. And yeah, they might get dirty. because we DRIVE THEM EVERYDAY! you know why we drive them everyday? because they aren't broken... Also, why would we just go out and by a BOLT ON SUPERCHARGER KIT. we don't want the same common stuff everyone has... We try to be different and do what we can. And Ductape? Maybe you have us mixed up with someone else. if not, then you sir, are dillusional. we would gladly put up our fabricating and SHO mecanical skills against you if need be. and as for saying "aren't you tired of supercharging or turboing a SHO very weekend" are you kidding. Don't you wish you could do that. or had the skills to do that? For a sho enthusiast. you sure aren't one. all I have to say to you is that you are truely


And please don't lock or delete this one, because that guy deserved everything said to him.


now, for the people who do care about what we are doing :Look away Silver95:

We are still waiting for the bypass valve to show up. it is in FL, and they said they can't ship anything until after the hurricane there. Even though we bought it last week. haha. that is all we are waiting on though. We will do the write up and video as soon as it is done though. thanks to the guys who had good things to say.

 

[Geek SHO]

Was he talking about me in regards to blown motors? Because I already said it is not supercharger related. The story is that I blew my old 3.0 from nitrous. I think it blew because I accidentally used stock heat range spark plugs instead of one colder. It worked fine when I had the cold plugs. That and the motor had 190k miles on it. The 3.2 in it now is from the junkyard, and I did not do a complete rebuild of it before install. We didn't add the blower until months after the 3.2 swap. I replaced everything but the rings. I inspected the cylinder walls and pistons, but I think one of them has a compacted ring. So, I get lots of blowby, and it's blowing out the front main seal.

Not a SHO enthusiast? Are you insane?

 

[twr]

I applaud your efforts!! Good job There are many different ways to go forced induction. Who cares what road you took to get there as long as in the end, you did.

I built my own Vortech kit and quite honestly... I would be a little hesitant to drive it for 14 1/2 hours anywhere, not that it has broken since the blower went on, but that it would be difficult to fix on the side of the road in the middle of.. say Kansas.

As far as blowing SHO's up... how many motors did the ShoShop have a hand in destroying??

 

[Silver95]

Whatever you say there fella sho mechanics. Make something NICE, a nice set up, not chopped man. You want a nice example of a boosted sho? Ok, TWR, Tims 500hp beast, another fella that is in my club has a nice MB supercahrged sho, umm, jasons SHO (yamahasho) If you made it all NICE, and it was quick,your first turbo sho, no offence was not quicker then most n/a bolt on sho's atleast from what i have seen in the vid. Make somethin NICE all around, then i will give you credit, and also, NO ONE is challenging you in fabbing supercharger kits or turbo's off of diesel trucks or anything like that, and NO, i would not want to supercharge or turbo a sho every weekend. What i would want to do is do it NICE....Get a low mileage body, everything else, either used or new AND GET A PROPER TUNE!

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

geez guy you really screwed this thread up.... in your profile it even says your other SHO was what?.....totalled. and the one you are driving the list of mods is only springs and tint. thats gotta be like what 20 HP? hahahaha.... seriously now. And yes I applaud all the others who have spend mucho money into their boosted sho. they are quite nice. (saw most of them at the convention. But even tim's beast has been broken too, so was the story at the convention... no matter what the money or HP... shit happens.. motors break. But don't trash us about it..especially when your list of cars and mods includes "1995 Silver Frost ATX 100K, Mint Condition,coneless, tinted all around---Totaled March 11th 2004 " and "1995 MTX White, Eibach Springs, Monroe Struts? Tinted, coneless, needs quarter panel 245.000Km' " you are not one to be talking about boosted SHOs and tuning and such.