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gimpy

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Just cracked the 80k mark and was wondering how long other's SHO have made it currently.

I'm pretty meticulous with the car's service. Oil never passes the 4k mark per change for example. I've had the listed mods for the past 10k (give or take) and have only had it to the track one time myself.

Anyways, what is the longevity of these and is there anything I should be on the lookout for?
 

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I just bought a 2010 w/117,500 miles on it that runs and drives essentially like new. Only put a few hundred miles on it so far, but I've worked on cars most of my adult life and can't see any real surprises coming up based on how it is currently driving.
 

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I have read that past 150k you start having increased risk of a turbo going out, but otherwise they seem to be very robust.
 

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Both essentially good replies.

I intend to unload mine right around the 100k mark for an upgrade.

Planning on an S6, but things change.
 

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Like any sho ever made. It all depends on how you treat it. Regular maintenance and upkeep. It shouldn't have any issues going to 150 to 200k.
Also don't forget to let it idle and cool down a bit after drives before shutting it off. Nothing a turbo hates more then spinning in non flowing oil after a drive.
 

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Like any sho ever made. It all depends on how you treat it. Regular maintenance and upkeep. It shouldn't have any issues going to 150 to 200k.
Also don't forget to let it idle and cool down a bit after drives before shutting it off. Nothing a turbo hates more then spinning in non flowing oil after a drive.
I never understood the thinking on the turbo spinning after shutdown.
The moment the throttle plate is shut the turbo should come to a QUICK STOP!
 

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I never understood the thinking on the turbo spinning after shutdown.
The moment the throttle plate is shut the turbo should come to a QUICK STOP!


You think so huh?? Take a minute and think about just how fast the turbo is spinning while driving and just how much heat it's making while it's spinning that fast. Now think what will happen to the oil if all flow through it just stops when you shut the car off?
The amount of blown seals and oil coked turbo issues can be greatly reduced by taking that one or two minutes to let it idle and slow the turbos down.

And why in the world would you want the turbos to stop spinning when the throttle plate closes??? You do understand how a turbo works right ?
 

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part of how you reduce turbo lag is by allowing the turbos to keep spinning after the throttle closes - you most definitely do not want the turbo to come to a quick stop!

current technology turbo design has the oil and coolant flow continuing by natural convective flow even after the car is shut off - that and ceramic roller bearings in place of plain bearings are the main reasons for increased turbo life.

gimpy, before you get an S6, take a good hard look at objective reliability reports on those things.
 

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Yes, current turbo tech is far advanced from early days or even dsm days with journal bearing 14b, 16g and 20g turbos.....but nothing will replace a couple minutes at idle after driving. And really is 90 or 120 seconds of your day too much to ask?
 

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Coolant is still cycling through the turbos even after the engine's shut off.

Although not entirely necessary to allow it to idle as suggested prior to shutdown, it certainly can't hurt.

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I would say the weakest durability issue with the SHO is the turbos (really any turbo vehicle). It seems that all turbos tend to go out before 150k miles.

Coolant is still cycling through the turbos even after the engine's shut off.

Although not entirely necessary to allow it to idle as suggested prior to shutdown, it certainly can't hurt.

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+1 here. It cannot hurt to let it idle but it's not necessary. When coming home from normal driving i never let it idle before turning off as these are also cooled by the engine coolant. But if I'm driving the engine hard, I'll always drive around normally for 5-10 minutes before turning off the engine.
 
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My 2011 has 88K miles, and it has held up very well. I had a torque converter shudder 1K miles ago which has been fixed, and I recently had a rattle when the A/C was turned on. I think it was the tensioner, but I also replace the A/C compressor clutch and bearing. The noise is gone.

Mine is currently for sale. It has every option including multi-contour seats (except for the Performance package) listed at $14,800. Excellent mechanical and cosmetic shape. No offers since I listed over a week ago. It is listed on cars.com, autotrader.com, kbb.com and Craigslist. I took it to CarMax and they offered me $11K flat. Everything checked out fine and they even made great comments. But this is too far below BB and KBB values.

I'm going to buy an MKZ Reserve 3.0 AWD. Awesome car with 400 hp and 400 lb ft torque. Found the Fusion Sport to be too uncomfortable. Next step is to get a trade-in value from my dealer.

What are your thoughts on a fair asking price? Any other suggestions for selling it?

Thanks!
 

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NADA for my area shows trade-in from $11,775 - $14,050 (average at $13,025) and in our area the CarMax buyers will typically out-bid other dealers. Unfortunately, the SHO (and MKS) are slower-moving vehicles so the dealers are factoring in that they may have their money tied up for 3-4 months rather than the 1-2 that they would like. The market has been a little below the book on these cars for the past year, so they are not that low at $11k. I'd say if you can get the Lincoln dealer anywhere near $13k on trade you should take it.
 

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Turned 135K on my 11 last week. Nothing but regular maintenance so far, but 90% of my driving is on freeways at 65-70mph. I'm hoping to get about 200K out of it before I move on to either a 15 or 16 model.
 

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part of how you reduce turbo lag is by allowing the turbos to keep spinning after the throttle closes - you most definitely do not want the turbo to come to a quick stop!

current technology turbo design has the oil and coolant flow continuing by natural convective flow even after the car is shut off - that and ceramic roller bearings in place of plain bearings are the main reasons for increased turbo life.

gimpy, before you get an S6, take a good hard look at objective reliability reports on those things.


I have already decided otherwise.

My current SHO is being traded in towards a 2016 SHO in the very near future
 

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Well, I think I am an unlucky oddity, but my SHO had a failed headgasket at 98k miles. This, in turn, caused hydrolock and bent a rod.

Like I said, I am probably an oddity.
 

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