SFC idea

[nc89sho]

i just had this idea so i'm throwing it out.. has anyone ever considered bolting subframe connectors on instead of welding them? it would make for easy removal if the car was sold or damaged. i was thinking something in the line of long bolts that went through the floor or something.. i dont' know, i'm just bored.. anyway.. anyone else ever thought of this?

 

[93EmeraldMTX]

when you can get them made for like 50 bucks, im really not worried about the car being sold with them on.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Yeah, I think I paid $30 for mine.... I'm not too worried.

 

[Stracey R]

why is it called "Sub Frame Connectors" when its not even connected onto the sub frames? its connected to the frame of the car, those two things that look like "railings".

 

[SHOZ123]

They connect the front floor stiffening rails to the rear subframe.

 

[NJSHO]

Where's the best place to get the long style sfc's now-a-days.

 

[Grifter]

Where's the best place to get the long style sfc's now-a-days.

Nook on the Forum sells them. He should probably be making another bacth soon.

 

[Lance Cheney]

why is it called "Sub Frame Connectors" when its not even connected onto the sub frames? its connected to the frame of the car, those two things that look like "railings".

Yeah, it's actually not even the frame. Like Paul said, it connects to the FLOOR stiffening rails, which aren't even that well hooked to anything else. The real frame rails are on either side of the car, and are large boxes made of multi-ply sheet metal spot welded together.

I suppose you could bolt the things on, but if you put them all the way through the car then you'll have stuff under the carpet, and if you don't it'll be a pain to put on.

The one advantage would be that you could remove it if you ever get a roll cage put in, since at that point the subframe connectors don't add any real additional stiffness, only a bunch of weight. I'm not looking forward to trying to grind all the welds off to remove mine if I ever get to that point.

-Lance

 

[Electricat]

I am a comparative newbie to the SHO, but this should hold true across about any car......In general, bolt-on subframe connectors don't offer nearly the rigidity that weld-on does. The limited area of the attachment points, plus the tendency of the bolt holes to stretch over time makes bolt-ons a poor option.

 

[Slo-Sho]

If you were to use a thick plate on the other side of the floor board along with high grade bolts, it will hold. It would be like sandwiching the floorpan. Eh, what am I saying, it's a bad idea.

 

[K-Dawg]

The way I see it, eventually fatigue would set in, causing them to be less effective than the weld-in "SFC" (unibody stiffeners).

 

[Shoaz]

I'm not looking forward to trying to grind all the welds off to remove mine if I ever get to that point.

Sawzall, dude.

 

[DemonNeno]

the best way to support a sub framed car would be to run vertical bars from the floorboard stiffen beams to the rear subframe and welded beams from the pinch welds to the sub frame connectors, diagonally. This would "web" the unibody and prevent TONS of flex... weigh a lot, though.