sdpatt please help

[coldsho]

how are the cylinders and the coilpacks numbered? need to get them and intake on soon!!!

 

[Bizzy]

5 1
6 2
4 3

 

[sdpatt]

Thanks Beth. coldsho, you should have tried the search feature. This sequence has been posted many times. Here are the engine and coil pack numbers with the orientation references. For future searches: plug wire sequence

Cylinder Sequence
Firewall
1-2-3
------
4-5-6
Radiator

Coil Pack Sequence
Firewall
5 | 1
6 | 2
4 | 3
Radiator

 

[Bizzy]

Scott,

Thanks for finishing the info up. Guess I didn't read the whole post.

 

[Marccus]

sdpatt:
Thanks Beth. coldsho, you should have tried the search feature. This sequence has been posted many times. Here are the engine and coil pack numbers with the orientation references. For future searches: plug wire sequence

Cylinder Sequence
Firewall
1-2-3
------
4-5-6
Radiator

Coil Pack Sequence
Firewall
5 | 1
6 | 2
4 | 3
Radiator

Well, the Ford Shop manual and the Chilton manuals are wrong. I am so flipping angry at this time, I feel like putting my fist through a window, but it cost me sixteen stitches last time I did that - and that was almost 30 years ago. I haven't been that angry since.

How can a multibillion dollar automobile manufacturer get the most important and simplest aspect of engine performance wrong - the firing sequence?

This just blows me away.

Just as the mistake made when Martin Marietta transferred course correction information to JPL (which in turn transferred the info to the Mars spacecraft) in English units and JPL was expecting that information in metric units. That error crashed a $350 million dollar spacecraft into the Mars surface. No one checked the units.

Just like the firm who designed the Hubbel telescope wanted to save $150,000 by ommitting a check of the optics in the lab using laser inferometry and didn't discover the error in the computer program they wrote that designed the optics.

The Shuttle "fixed" the problem to the $7 billion dollar telecscope for a mere several hundred million.

Just like the INS that issued visa renewels for four or five of the dead Arab terrorists 6 months AFTER they died
and mailed them to the flight schools they were attending.

Just like the flight school instructors who didn't "catch" on when several foreign "students" stated they weren't
interested in knowing how to land a 747, just how to take off. Hello? Anyone home upstairs?

OK, I've ranted enough.

....

No one cares about quality anymore.

****, we couldn't even get to the moon anymore which was amazing feat accomplished over 30 years ago essentially without computers.

And to add injury to insult and rub salt in the wound, the numbers 1,2,3 were painted on my ignition coil in that order vertically from the radiator to the firewall - just the complete opposite of what they should be.

I'm getting on the horn tomorrow to Ford and Chilton and tear them a new one so large you can bury a black hole in it.

Thank you for saving me another 24 hours of misery - I already wasted 48.

 

[NWGRN94MTX]

and I thought I was the curmudgeon on this board.

I agree with ya man.

Marccus:

sdpatt:
Thanks Beth. coldsho, you should have tried the search feature. This sequence has been posted many times. Here are the engine and coil pack numbers with the orientation references. For future searches: plug wire sequence

Cylinder Sequence
Firewall
1-2-3
------
4-5-6
Radiator

Coil Pack Sequence
Firewall
5 | 1
6 | 2
4 | 3
Radiator

Well, the Ford Shop manual and the Chilton manuals are wrong. I am so flipping angry at this time, I feel like putting my fist through a window, but it cost me sixteen stitches last time I did that - and that was almost 30 years ago. I haven't been that angry since.

How can a multibillion dollar automobile manufacturer get the most important and simplest aspect of engine performance wrong - the firing sequence?

This just blows me away.

Just as the mistake made when Martin Marietta transferred course correction information to JPL (which in turn transferred the info to the Mars spacecraft) in English units and JPL was expecting that information in metric units. That error crashed a $350 million dollar spacecraft into the Mars surface. No one checked the units.

Just like the firm who designed the Hubbel telescope wanted to save $150,000 by ommitting a check of the optics in the lab using laser inferometry and didn't discover the error in the computer program they wrote that designed the optics.

The Shuttle "fixed" the problem to the $7 billion dollar telecscope for a mere several hundred million.

Just like the INS that issued visa renewels for four or five of the dead Arab terrorists 6 months AFTER they died
and mailed them to the flight schools they were attending.

Just like the flight school instructors who didn't "catch" on when several foreign "students" stated they weren't
interested in knowing how to land a 747, just how to take off. Hello? Anyone home upstairs?

OK, I've ranted enough.

....

No one cares about quality anymore.

****, we couldn't even get to the moon anymore which was amazing feat accomplished over 30 years ago essentially without computers.

And to add injury to insult and rub salt in the wound, the numbers 1,2,3 were painted on my ignition coil in that order vertically from the radiator to the firewall - just the complete opposite of what they should be.

I'm getting on the horn tomorrow to Ford and Chilton and tear them a new one so large you can bury a black hole in it.

Thank you for saving me another 24 hours of misery - I already wasted 48.

 

[sdpatt]

I've been there too. I replaced my wires at 120,000 miles and hooked them up per the Chilton manual. Running out of options and after completely redoing the timing belt and intake manifold, I called a Ford service department to confirm the plug wiring layout. I was very thankful that it was so easy as swapping a couple of wires, but I was very tired and very angry that nobody verified the accuracy of the manual.

 

[shojuan]

NWGRN94MTX:
and I thought I was the curmudgeon on this board.

My wife would probably say that I'm the youngest curmudgeon on the board.

I just asked, she just said "You're too young to be a curmudgeon. You should be too young to be a curmudgeon."

Rick

 

[Xs SHO 1]

my ford manual also says that the Gen 3 SHOs are 3.8L. how about that? shoot

 

[rangerj]

Gentlemen,

First, let us not forget that there are ladies present.

Marccus, am I to surmise from your post that you deserve to be first in line to "cast a stone"?
(tongue in cheek)

There is an old adage about getting more flies with honey, or some such thing.

Write Ford a letter, politely pointing out the error of their ways. I do this with all of the U.S. auto manufacturers, regarding their shop manuals, and their systems.

I get nice polite letters back. This is no big deal, but you then know you got their attention.

I have even had phone calls from factory representatives (two) who had the letter passed down to them. They wanted to discuss the problem, and were even polite enough to ask about my thoughts on a solution.

So, calm down. Write Ford a nice detailed letter.
If you want to suggest that the poeple they hire to do the editing of the manuals were the prodgeny of parents who were relatives, go ahead,
if it makes you feel better!

Who said wrench heads don't have a sense of humor? rangerj